Generally speaking, one has to deal with the TSA daily/weekly/monthly in the act of chasing miles and points. I cannot recall having to count backwards from 10 million, or things of that nature, in the effort to run up miles/points/status/upgrades and such (except to calm my nerves after having dealt with the very same TSA behavior I was prewarned about in TS/S).

With that said, you will note that when I broached the notion of going even further than Randy has, one of the biggest discussion (indeed, I even broadened my own horizons on the subject) was what constitutes a "non mile/point" forum.

I'd much rather be having that debate rather than kicking around the notion that Randy has deprived someone of the psychological (and matching post-count) thrill of running up thousands and thousands of posts in OMNI.

Indeed, that was your thought on the subject as well as I read it.

In other news it's official--the world will now end because ozstamps, dovster, and I are seemingly in agreement on something.

Actually, it's the TS/S Forum and it relates to all forms of travel safety and travel security. Trains, planes, automobiles and that sort of thing.

But I'll admit it does seem like TSA 24/7/365 more often than not.

All we now need is for cblaisd to concur, and the UN might need to declare a state of international crisis.

Glen

Very interesting point. I never thought of it that way. Now I have another reason for not wanting OMNI posts to count. ^

For the same reason that posts in the airline forums count when someone says AA sucks or United is the pits. For the most part, those comments are part of a longer response and all are still related to air travel. I don't think anyone has achieved "Evangelist" status by posting in TS&S like is done in OMNI.

Take a look at TS/S. There are hundreds and hundreds of posts that are simply roll-eyes and/or '"another idiot/nazi."

It's akin to someone posting in every single UA thread 'This is why UA sucks.'

Post padding? Not according to the TS/S community/culture/mods. But sure does walk like a duck.

Actually, now that I think about it, I think it may be time to change the name of the TS/S forum to the "Whinge and complain about travel security forum...'

I see that you may be fishing for allies. Instead of classifying your above post as an effort to argue against your own motion, I'll classify it as a non-post-padding post that is fishing for allies by making the the slippery slope argument of "you will be next". That said, even as I prefer that OMNI posts count in post count totals, I am still not in favor of this motion for the reasons I mentioned before.

Same is true of many other forums.

I can think of one poster who I have personally seen type: "did you use Search?" over 100 times. Which means he must have done it many more times I'd guess.

All on airline/hotel forums.

Even that fairly curt reply may have helped a newbie find an answer about miles and points.

Mongolian Word Assocation Threads never have.

Did you use search to suss that out?

(this post 'counts'....yea!)

Those are my points but from the other side. Why is the focus on OMNI as a whole so special then? Why not fix the real problem with OMNI (which some simple moderation could easily do) instead of trying to lessen OMNI's value to FT? OMNI provides real value to FT yet through the abuse of some posters we are going to basically relegate the whole forum to second class status instead of dealing directly with those issues?

Maybe my understanding of what OMNI is intended to be is different than mosts but I browse another forum which have a similar forum for all other posts but just pure spamming isnt allowed in there either. OMNI allows for discussions on other topics not directly related to travel. OMNI is not the issue but the abuse and gaming of certain threads in OMNI is the issue. Yet all people are doing is treating OMNI as the issue instead of focusing on the real problems

majorwibi - I think you are too new onto FT to understand that 'simple moderation' and 'OMNI' don't go well together. Moderators on that forum burned out at a scary rate, so Randy took it on himself. Basically, all of the screaming, shouting and overdramatics we've seen throughout this debate used to occur pretty much everytime a moderator took a decision someone didn't like, and Randy would be appealed to it seemed like on every occasion, usually with the claim that the moderator was politically biased. I wasn't a mod back then, just a frequenter of the forum who used to watch the popcorn threads, but it was not a good situation - and I don't believe that anything much would have changed, particularly since the residents are used to a rather loser interpretation of the TOS than the rest of the board gets...

So we now have members patting each other on the back for supporting OMNI while at the same time supporting the measure which created a double-standard (not counting posts there). Some of these same members have defended TS/S post counts. Do you see any hypocrisy in that?

majorwibi - perhaps you do not completely get it.

OMNI is a totally done deal. Kaput.

Want to argue for other Forums to join it go ahead .. free country. This is the place to start a new thread. @:-)

NO other forum has a single nonsense thread with several folks posting over 10,000 times each to it. OMNI does, and not one single post contributes to miles and points in any way, to any member.

Play away for as many hours as you have free time, by all means, but the posts do NOT count from now on. Seems fair to me. And that decision has been made.

As I said add a Sudoku portal there and voil� - 1,000,000 more posts also not related to flying or miles or points. Start a Immedaite Gun Control debate forum, and you'll add another 100,000 - 500,000 posts in months. Actually I'll join that one for sure.

Have a 'Right To Life' forum and add another 100,000 - 500,000 real fast. Let the Amish have a little corner to hang out in perhaps. Or the Black Panthers, Hells Angels, KKK of the friends of Ross Perot - or even Elvis Presley lookalikes. FT will look like a very badly run flea market if those moves go ahead.

It is far too fragmented and disjointed as it is now - IMHO.

Randy seems to feel FT is big enough and respected enough in its core areas that is does best, not to need to add Sudoku type frippery just to artificially boost overall post counts. Smart move.

The fact some members of the current TB are very high on that posting list in that one thread - and voted against it last time will likely mean they will again - no doubt about it in my mind. We will all see in a few days if I am correct. A lot of the TB has a very high % of their posts in OMNI, and self interest clearly seemed at play in the previous vote - IMHO, and I made that view clear at the time.

But it is now a done deal at Randy's direction. So are the Freddie's dates and locations, so are what style the fonts are around here. The system works.

All this rampaging thread is hot air to appease the huddled masses led by 2 cheerleaders. Like sending a petition to Congress signed by a few people to demand they lower income tax by 10%. Possible to do, but an ultimate waste of energy and resources.

Move onto the next crusade is pretty good advice.

This one is a show trial.
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Nope.