525 posts so far. when does the voting period end?

Not soon enough.

So you think that OMNI post counts are trivial?

You also think that TB motions constitute "badgering"?

What would be a non-trivial manner in your opinion? Maybe the kinds of smilies we have available to us?

I'm glad you find this such a trivial matter. If this is so trivial then you wouldnt mind just allowing those of us who actually care about it so much to have our way?


If Randy was making these decisions by himself then I wouldnt even have a gripe or concern. However based on the actions I have seen him take it appears that he takes input from other sources.

Randy is more than capable of listening to whomever he deems, and his creation of TB wouldnt work otherwise.

As far as the "small number" I'm not seeing many more people weighing in on the pro-choice side. The numbers argument, just like the triviality argument, is nothing more than an attempt to discount and dismiss the questions being asked. I'm extremely disappointed that it has come to that line of reasoning, plus the personal attacks that ozstamps has started to use...

double post. Please delete

magicianampras, before you start thanking me, you might want to keep in mind that I am against this motion.

Where I disagree with Randy, however, is that I don't think he went far enough. Indeed, the motion which I made last year wasn't sufficient (as it was restricted only to Omni) but at least it was to stop counting the Omni posts retroactively. Randy has not done that.



Spiff, apparently quite a few people -- on both sides of this issue -- don't consider the matter relatively trivial.

Indeed, if I were on TalkBoard today and I saw from our internal discussions that my motion from last year had a chance of passing, I would make it again. If I saw that a stronger one did (discounting all posts from non M&P forums/threads), I would make that motion.

I would not have made the current motion but once it was made and seconded, I would have voted on it according to my own view of its merits.
As someone who has long been against Omni posts being counted, I obviously would have voted against it. I would hope that all TB members cast their ballots with that one question in mind: it it better for FT to count Omni posts or not?

Actually Dov, that's not the motion. While it's certainly a consideration in the motion, it's not the motion, and I prefer to actually vote on the motion, not what I would like the motion to be...

It's not up to me; that decision has been made. Permitting a few people to "have their way" on a relatively trivial matter is not something I'm going to badger Randy about. He's capable of making some choices for the bulletin board that he started and now hosts on behalf of the new owners without being hammered for those decisions, despite a few people thinking otherwise.


This thread is not the only place for people to register their opinions on the matter. @:-)

Well, as a TalkBoard member, when the voting on the current motion is complete you are free to make a new motion worded exactly the way you want it.

Face facts, Dov. Your views are now as irrelevant as mine, regardless of what you posted above. The rest is insulting - somehow because I didn't win a TB campaign I should be listened to less than someone who did?

Thanks for your service during your term, but your term is over.

Nothing, but as a public service guide, I'll repost the list of logical fallacies held on Wikipedia and ozstamps can choose which one(s) he's chosen to deploy here.

I'll give one for free: The John Kerry "Do you know who I am (was)?" Fallacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Face just one fact, Rich: That was Oz you quoted, not me.

Sorry. It did seem so very much unlike you, after all.

Maybe it's the Aussie weather that's getting to me. Or the Truman Show like world that is Canberra

--Rich

This is the whole thing in a nut shell.

Post counts are meaningless. Does anyone in their right mind think that someone who joined FT in Nov 06 and has 34,294 posts (71.99 posts as day) is actually more knowledgeable than someone who is known and posts in a specific forum, or forums, most of the time? He/she may be...but may not be. It's up to the members of the forums to make their own informed decisions.

OMNI counting games and other bubble wrap poppers are just time killers for people with nothing else to do. I would be very happy with no post counts from OMNI and other time wasting threads ...like the lounges.

In fact, all that is needed is a post count to get to CC and OMNI and then do away with all counts and titles.

You can't spend Post Counts

Actually, it is about asking Randy to change his mind on a decision he made. OMNI post counts just happen to be the topic of the decision.


Same here.