Of course, you still have not offered any type of explanation for the destructive posting patterns which have been directly attributed to you in this thread.

So, while it has become more amusing than anything else, I once again conclude that this illustrated history of "destructive posting patterns" speaks for itself in the context of helping the FT community decide whom to vote for (or not) in the upcoming talkboard election.

I'm pleasently suprised by our agreement about destructive posting patterns. Change starts with the mirror.


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Saving the world, one clue at a time.

The majority of my posts pertain to the following things:
1. RTW tickets-- buying 'em, using 'em, re-issuing them, understanding them
2. EXP status-- getting it, keeping it, is it worth it? Getting the most from it.
3. Helping new people get the most out of their AA travel-- Plat. challenge, etc.
4. Upgrades-- how? when? worth it? Different aircraft--different strategies
5. Fares-- better to use miles? better to wait? better fares from/to different airports/countries?
6. AIrport mess-- how to avoid it, little hints and tips. LHR strategies (a category in and upon itself.)
7. Lounges-- Where? How? Best ones? Access (a category in and upon itself.)

And tons of other stuff-- most of which I learned on FT and now-- where I can-- I pass on. This is what most people come to FT for-- it's what FT is all about. IMHO, your posts have nothing whatsoever to do with any of the above. Your enthusiasm is commendable-- your antagonistic attitude is the problem.

Having transitioned from top level elite on CO to top level elite at AA I also know a thing or two about how the two programs compare and contrast-- so I very occasionally post in the CO forum with some insights. Your intrusions into the AA and UA forum are nothing but snotty, misinformed, immature instigation.

This is why the brutal thugs of FT will never come after me.

I think you are missing the point, avek... this thread IS about you.

The topic at hand, in fact, is Avek00 for TalkBoard.

And so discussing why some of us do or don't see you as a fit candidate for TalkBoard is a valid topic. Examples of your past posting behavior are not only NOT personal attacks, they instead relevant examples and completely on topic.

You have every right to spend your time and energy telling us why you feel you are a great candidate for TalkBoard... and we have every right in this "democracy" to agree with or refute that claim.

I knew he'd work that phrase in somehow!

Well he worked it in, but he forget HE just posted in this VERY thread:

avek00 is that or is that not an 'ad hominem attack'??????

It can surely only be a threat to me and nominated others?

avek, you appear to use that term often but do NOT understand what it means.

A single word answer will be fine avek:

Is that or is that not an 'ad hominem attack' you just made??????


(a) YES

(b) NO

Think of this as a multiple choice question.

You are world chamption at not answering direct questions. Here is your big chance.

No, it is NOT an ad hominem attack, as I am highlighting your posting & behavioral history on Flyertalk as opposed to mocking or criticizing something completed unrelated like age.

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Thank you for choosing Continental Airlines, a proud member of the SkyTeam Alliance.

Agree 105%. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

No-one held a gun to the head of any Flyertalker to nominate themselves.

HOWEVER, once nominated, like EVERY public position that is voted upon in any democracy, the voters are able to ask the candidates questions, and discuss the merits or otherwise of the Candidate.

We ask questions avek00 but you obfuscate and blubber and play the victim. Whilst at the same time making your own 'ad hominem attacks' on others here and continually changing the subject.

But never answer those direct questions. So yes, this thread is 100% complying with the FT TOS in my opinion, given this Forum is clearly titled "TalkBoard Issues".

Had you NOT started the thread, these 4 pages would not exist IMO.

Think about it. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I do realize that this thread is about me, and I don't question the right of others to support or oppose me as they see fit. However, this thread is NOT intended to provide cover for ad hominem attacks.

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Thank you for choosing Continental Airlines, a proud member of the SkyTeam Alliance.

A thread about my candidacy does not give you license to commence your usual personal attacks.

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Thank you for choosing Continental Airlines, a proud member of the SkyTeam Alliance.

To me this statement goes well beyond a personal attack, which it is, of course. This strikes me as a threat, and almost sounds like he is threatening bodily violence. This type of statement is just downright scary, and enough for me to consider if participating in a community that allows this sort of threatening behavior is worth it? Maybe it's best to leave FlyerTalk to avek00 and his ilk? I'm not sure I'm comfortable with his threats?

Transpac:

First and foremost, I would NEVER threaten against another person, on FlyerTalk or elsewhere.

I made a commitment that I will work to stop the frequent personal attackers on FlyerTalk. The only people who should perceive that as a threat to their continued bad behavior on FT are the frequent personal attackers themselves.


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All those who fly Continental Airlines, raise your hands.
The rest of you, raise your standards.


[This message has been edited by avek00 (edited 08-13-2003).]

Right... only the frequent personal attackers.

Those who occasionally suggest that other FTers need to go to the Betty Ford Clinic are more than free to attack away.

I'm starting to quite enjoy this rhetoric of yours, Avek... tell us how you REALLY feel.

While personal attacks are a problem regardless of frequency, IMHO, there IS a difference between a generally "law-abiding" poster who makes a single comment and a poster who, having been banned on multiple occasions due to attacks and flame wars, decides to continue the antics yet again.


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All those who fly Continental Airlines, raise your hands.
The rest of you, raise your standards.

Yes, it is very sad when FT'ers need to in desperation make such hostile threats.

Sadder still when they are running for TB. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

Do you really have the delusion that it is TalkBoard's place or mission to carry out FT discipline?

Tsk, tsk... I would have done my homework on that one before staking my campaign on it.

So avek... what I gather is that you believe that it is OKAY for you to have posted that I needed to check myself into rehab because you consider yourself to be an otherwise "law abiding" member of the FT Community?

So Mr. Candidate, I ask you... since you keep using the phrase "frequent personal attacker", how many attacks does it take to get to that status?

If one makes one particularly offensive "full-fare" attack, does it count the same as three or four "discount" attacks?

Are "full-fare" attackers treated differently for what they bring to the situation?

What flavor does the pizza have to be to qualify as an attack?

And finally, was it not your personal hero Gordo who had that lovely quote about inmates running the asylum? Are you seeing the irony yet?