N965VJ

I'm not sure closing threads for comment would end the debate; they could pop up elsewhere. For example: Talkboard is voting on allowing posts in Omni to count towards post totals in OMNI.

Dovster

This motion would not put pressure on anyone to vote immediately. In fact, it would do just the opposite.

If a motion has 6 in favor (or 4 against), the matter is decided.

Let's assume for a moment that I am a TB member who has not yet made up his mind. As things stand right now, I would feel that any respect at all for the membership dictates that I cast my vote immediately so as not to delay informing them. Hence, I might vote in a way which I would later regret.

On the other hand, if I know that the results will be announced whether or not I vote (although the names of who voted will not be revealed until voting is completed), then I would not be at all hesitant about taking the entire 2 weeks before casting my ballot, giving it as much thought as I feel it deserves.

About the only "down side" to this motion is depriving a TalkBoard member of the "power" to keep the membership waiting to know the results and, frankly, if anyone gets pleasure from that petty exercise of his or her authority then he or she belongs in kindergarden, not on TalkBoard.

matthandy

I'm all for announcing the results earlier, if the required number of votes has been received before the end of the official voting deadline.

However, I don't support the idea of having the vote 'in public' for various reasons:

- It may pursuade voting members to change their position if they vote later and can already see the existing vote count 'for' and 'against' (seemingly giving later voting members more 'power')
- It would be unfair pressure on voting members who vote later in the process

I'd support an announcement which listed out who each member voted, but after the vote has completed.

RKG

I believe each of the TB members can see the vote count tally as it occurs. It is private to them. The balance of FT'ers do not have access until the vote is complete and released.

Of course my understanding may be incorrect.

jackal

Precisely. Nor do I think it is good practice to stifle/limit debate, since a member coming upon the subject after the "official" discussion period may have a very salient contribution to make to the discussion that could significantly affect the outcome. That has happened before, IIRC.

N830MH

Right, they have kept private and not asking TB any question about voting, creation new forum and etc. TB have kept the privacy when they passed the motion or voting failed. TB is their own choice and not TB members decsion.

lin821

That is exactly the status quo.

kipper

I know others have suggested limiting discussion times. However, my idea is not to limit discussion and lock threads, but rather, do away with some of the very "strong, passionate" language that is sometimes used towards the end of a debate. I feel that by announcing that a motion has the votes to pass or will not receive enough votes to pass will minimize some of the "strong" language used, and will, in turn, strengthen the community.

Dovster

As things stand now, they are absolutely ridiculous.

We have not been told if the Games Forum was approved.

We have not been told if posts on it will count.

For all of that, there is a new Games Forum and posts on it are, indeed, being added to our post counts.

RichMSN

I am not, according to the TB Guidelines, allowed to announce the results.

I will say that the status quo is *not* how the vote ended. I expect that IB needs to flip some switches and I'm sure Sharon will be along to announce the vote results soon.

Dovster

Now I get it. The Games Forum was not approved and will soon cease to exist. Future posts made on it will stop being counted as soon as it disappears.

kipper

Yes, this is true.

SkiAdcock

Oh good grief - the vote ended last night after I shut down my computer. I did work this morning & am now on FT during lunch. EXCUSE me that I didn't get on to FT at 6am to check & post immediately the results - which I will be doing in a few minutes. Sorry that's 'late'' for some of you

Cheers.

Dovster

So you do not consider it ridiculous that the forum was established before it was announced and that posts are being counted on the Game forum but not Omni?

kokonutz

lol, I was thinking that you were going to have to stay up late as the vote closed after 11pm EST, and we all could have guessed that the last vote would not be in until just at the deadline.