Well said!^^

Yes, in a standard system, the representative gets to vote too. The prime minister, can vote for himself, if he choses. However, we don't get to vote in this system, so the poll was to represent the 'votes' of non-voters. So it is not the same thing.

In principle I agree with your first statement, but what if that original idea turned out to be unpopular post election? Who does that course of action benefit? I can't see any winners there, stressed politician and unhappy voters.

i joined too late to read through all the 14 last pages so i only randomly selected a few pages to read to make sure i didnt miss any reasons why the forums weren't included in post counts. (and i did learn, i certainly didnt know some ppl joined FT just to participate in Politics/Religion/Coupon trading. Well- I joined FT after OMNI had post count limits. and dont care whether or not posts count or not - but i've played counting games before without knowing they dont include in post counts.)

In the perfect world i do hope only on-topic (wrt to the mission of FT) posts count. certainly if we can shut the counters on lounge thread i would love to see that happening.

OTOH i have no idea if the post count represents anything other than 1) key to accessing OMNI/coupon connect and 2) "Flyertalk Evalangelist" status.

unless post counts do mean something significant that i've missed, i do not agree including OMNI/CC in post counts (They do not represent the posts in FT that brings FT its value). also and i reiterate: if we can stop counting official lounge threads, do so and i'd vote yet... otherwise there's no reason to delete OT posts in threads. they do serve the same purpose as random posts in OMNI.

you're indeed right.
the magic number (the sample size) is much closer to low 900s than 1000 but from statistics class i had long ago it's allows a 95% significance level on a 50/50 split in choice of A or B *had the sample size been random*.

I usually click on a member name and select the option 'find more posts' and speed read the last 20-60 posts... I'm sort of proud that my 15000+posts are 99,9% travel related and in my experience 90+% of active FTers are the same. If you want to provide people a platform to post something on miles and points, open a flame free newbie thread where members can rush in to help newbies with their simple questions.

I agree with a previous poster that it's a little naive to think this issue was the only reason you were elected to TB. @:-)

Except they brushed it under the carpet, and refused to accept it even as a genuine concern. And then made promises they then admitted they couldn't keep about what would happen 'if' the games became a problem.

Heads buried in sand while they mess with a forum. In this way you are correct - if TB were intent on experimenting this way on a M&P forum folks would be up in arms. But this is only OMNI

I disagree profoundly. You are not an equal member as ultimately only you get to decide on this motion. I'm sure it makes things more comfortable for you if you can manipulate the figures to fit your view of what you would like to happen.

Nevertheless, you cannot assume that someone who voted for you agreed with you on this point. Even when I vote for someone who said they wanted to restore post counts - a position I disagreed with them on, but nonetheless voted for them, on the basis that only if I stood would I agree with someone 100% - I want my representatives to listen to the members and not get so blinkered that it is their way or the highway. We did that once with MTW. It wasn't pretty and it wasn't a good period for TB - and I say that as one of those who messed up by not listening and getting so into the mind set 'I'm right and I don't need to listen to anyone'.

I'm disappointed at your lack of open-mindedness, and your unwillingness to listen and consider the views the members put forward, particularly when they disagree with you. I believe you are suffering from confirmation bias on this one. I see no great appetite from the OMNI-ites (sorry Mary) for this - and I've read the threads in OMNI as well.

I do see a lot of downsides however, and you have not even begun to address those when this motion was made. That's not what I'd expect from a responsible TB

I really like TBer RichMSN, and voted for him. Lots of good work in other areas so far. But on this subject I disagree with him. How many of the 408 that support this is unknown. I think I havent seen one of them posting here?

Its not a bad thing to reverse a promise, if later info, discussion and lack of support says so. If 5 people states they voted for him due to this, and still feel its a main issue, well then he should support probably.

The good part is that this topic should be over in this month and the TB then has 10-11 months to delve into other topics

Yes it is. And from the last we were told, the Omnis have more posts than several of the larger forums combined. I would get that means IB is making more money from ad revenue based upon page views because of it.

Actually, if you look up some of the posts by the community director, you will find that it is her position that TB members and moderators are first and foremost regular members. You may disagree, but that's the bottom line around here.

I'm curious as to why you wish to continue this inconsistency?

I think some people are making an assumption that those who have an opinion on this motion have all posted in this thread. However, perhaps some people do not feel comfortable posting in this thread, but have otherwise expressed their opinions to TalkBoard members via PM. Perhaps others are masked from seeing this forum, and as such, are unable to voice an opinion on this thread. Just because there is a discussion here does not mean that this is the only place where opinions to TalkBoard members are expressed concerning this motion.

My opinion: don't count them.

I don't want to be embarassed when my post count doubles because they are all in OMNI.

Oh good grief, I thought we'd done away with the mystical PMs which only appear when someone is trying to justify their position and there is not enough support for it on the threads.

Have any of the TB members actually said this is the case, or are you just trying to bolster your position with supposition?