One more thing: TB Term Limits
Dec 6, 2011, 7:07 am
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Except that the entire process is closed. I've received a number of PMs from loyal and regular posters who have applied to be mods only to be told that "we have enough mods" or that "they aren't suitable to be mods" without any further explanation and yet some mods have 3-4 forums under their remit.
You say stable. Other say stagnant. Tomato, tomahto.
You say stable. Other say stagnant. Tomato, tomahto.
There are 29 moderators who moderate 2 forums.
There are 10 who moderate 3 forums.
There are 7 who moderate 4 or 5 forums.
Or, that could lead to the "We have enough mods in those forums now," or the, "We don't think you're suitable as a mod," PM. Once they've completed their moderator application and have received a "Thanks, but no thanks," email or response via PM, as the system exists now, they have no other recourse.
Dec 6, 2011, 7:25 am
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Your post illustrates my point. You are well-educated and articulate yet you made two (minor) grammatical errors in it.
You are not alone. I am a professional writer and my posts are full of such errors and tons of typos.
I suspect that when you write for business purposes there are no such mistakes. I know that I not only use spell check but I also run my words through Word to see if it has any problem with my grammar.
(I also wait an hour before submitting any work so as to allow myself to proof it with fresh eyes,)
We take this extra care because we are being paid to produce the most professional work in all aspects. When we come to FT (or do any other kind of unpaid writing) we are nowhere near as careful.
You are not alone. I am a professional writer and my posts are full of such errors and tons of typos.
I suspect that when you write for business purposes there are no such mistakes. I know that I not only use spell check but I also run my words through Word to see if it has any problem with my grammar.
(I also wait an hour before submitting any work so as to allow myself to proof it with fresh eyes,)
We take this extra care because we are being paid to produce the most professional work in all aspects. When we come to FT (or do any other kind of unpaid writing) we are nowhere near as careful.
Not saying your point is generally correct or not, just pointing out a data point in conflict with it.
Dec 6, 2011, 8:25 am
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Or, that could lead to the "We have enough mods in those forums now," or the, "We don't think you're suitable as a mod," PM. Once they've completed their moderator application and have received a "Thanks, but no thanks," email or response via PM, as the system exists now, they have no other recourse.
That applies to any request from anyone on FT on any subject. All businesses run this way. You accept the decision of the person at the top or you fire that person. No picking and choosing allowed.
Dec 6, 2011, 8:33 am
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Hey folks - the topic is possible term limits for TB members - just a reminder!
If people would like to get back to the actual topic of the thread, it would be much appreciated. Derailing it w/ all the mod talk doesn't provide TB members input they need when considering term limits. Just sayin...
If someone goes back to the beginning of the thread (pre-derailment), they'll see input both for/against (and both sides made some valid points). Since it's being raised again, I at least would like to hear FT member's thoughts on it.
Cheers.
If people would like to get back to the actual topic of the thread, it would be much appreciated. Derailing it w/ all the mod talk doesn't provide TB members input they need when considering term limits. Just sayin...
If someone goes back to the beginning of the thread (pre-derailment), they'll see input both for/against (and both sides made some valid points). Since it's being raised again, I at least would like to hear FT member's thoughts on it.
Cheers.
Dec 6, 2011, 8:45 am
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I said "volunteering to help in any capacity in any forum". So your first part doesn't match the request. As to the lack of recourse, when you PM the Community Director, you are going to the top. She is the final authority, and by definition there is no further recourse.
That applies to any request from anyone on FT on any subject. All businesses run this way. You accept the decision of the person at the top or you fire that person. No picking and choosing allowed.
That applies to any request from anyone on FT on any subject. All businesses run this way. You accept the decision of the person at the top or you fire that person. No picking and choosing allowed.
What is wrong with adding additional options for recourse, especially if those additional options rotate out due to term limits? That gives greater chance for new ideas to be shared.
While "not in TalkBoard's purview," I favor not only term limits on TalkBoard members but also term limits on moderators. Give more people a chance to help by serving FT and I think you'll see increased engagement.
I do think that one of the reasons for such a low voter turnout was because to some, it was more of the same people running for the same positions.
Dec 8, 2011, 7:40 pm
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Perhaps people want to volunteer as a moderator, and receive those responses I mentioned before.
What is wrong with adding additional options for recourse, especially if those additional options rotate out due to term limits? That gives greater chance for new ideas to be shared.
While "not in TalkBoard's purview," I favor not only term limits on TalkBoard members but also term limits on moderators. Give more people a chance to help by serving FT and I think you'll see increased engagement.
I do think that one of the reasons for such a low voter turnout was because to some, it was more of the same people running for the same positions.
What is wrong with adding additional options for recourse, especially if those additional options rotate out due to term limits? That gives greater chance for new ideas to be shared.
While "not in TalkBoard's purview," I favor not only term limits on TalkBoard members but also term limits on moderators. Give more people a chance to help by serving FT and I think you'll see increased engagement.
I do think that one of the reasons for such a low voter turnout was because to some, it was more of the same people running for the same positions.
Dec 8, 2011, 7:45 pm
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That shouldn't have been the case as IIRC there was a sticky notice on every forum about the election and candidate debates.
Dec 8, 2011, 7:55 pm
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How could the process have been any simpler?
The "debates" were posted in all forums for a few weeks... and then the voting announcement was also posted at the top of each forum.
We then had avatars that told people there was an election going on.
Not sure how anyone who wanted to vote would have had difficulty finding the platforms and voting mechanism.
The "debates" were posted in all forums for a few weeks... and then the voting announcement was also posted at the top of each forum.
We then had avatars that told people there was an election going on.
Not sure how anyone who wanted to vote would have had difficulty finding the platforms and voting mechanism.
Dec 8, 2011, 9:06 pm
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How could the process have been any simpler?
The "debates" were posted in all forums for a few weeks... and then the voting announcement was also posted at the top of each forum.
We then had avatars that told people there was an election going on.
Not sure how anyone who wanted to vote would have had difficulty finding the platforms and voting mechanism.
The "debates" were posted in all forums for a few weeks... and then the voting announcement was also posted at the top of each forum.
We then had avatars that told people there was an election going on.
Not sure how anyone who wanted to vote would have had difficulty finding the platforms and voting mechanism.
Most users probably are on FT for points and miles reference and overlook the opportunity to vote..
Dec 8, 2011, 9:12 pm
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You're really reaching now as IMHO there was enough notice given about the TB elections. Regardless this thread isn't about that topic, it's about TB term limits.
Dec 8, 2011, 10:15 pm
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Dec 8, 2011, 10:22 pm
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Dec 8, 2011, 11:19 pm
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Dec 9, 2011, 5:44 am
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I do think there is a connection.... you could argue that we should not limit terms since so few people are interested and know about Talkboard to begin with.... 
Personally, I waver on this... but probably come down on not limiting terms... why "punish" people who want to serve... the voting booth is a way to curb term limits if the members truly want it.
To me, I am more concerned when an elected member chooses to not participate fully... thus depriving their constituents of true representation. The current guidelines give no easy and "quick" way to deal with this.
Personally, I waver on this... but probably come down on not limiting terms... why "punish" people who want to serve... the voting booth is a way to curb term limits if the members truly want it.
To me, I am more concerned when an elected member chooses to not participate fully... thus depriving their constituents of true representation. The current guidelines give no easy and "quick" way to deal with this.
Dec 9, 2011, 6:29 am
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I actually think a year is long enough.
Forums need new people and fresh ideas
Forums need new people and fresh ideas