kellio33

That is exactly how I read your statement.

TB nor mods will see me post here again as it really doesn't matter. I would think there are quite a few posters like me that would want to see things get better around here but the only opinions that seem to be taken seriously are the Evangelists, the TB and the Mods.

Markie

You think being a Mod on Flyertalk is equivalent to a claims adjuster, an engineer or a pilot?

Trust me - it's not.

However, your assertion that "volunteer" equals badly trained, or unprofessional is incorrect.

Dovster

A volunteer has less motivation to do the job correctly than does someone whose livlihood depends on it.

Indeed, ask anyone who is familiar with the U.S. court system if an attorney appointed by the court to defend someone without charge (or at a minimal payment) will put in the same time and effort that he would if he was getting paid.

The sad, but human, truth is that he will not.

essxjay

Curious opinion. Not one that I hold but I do appreciate your candor.

kipper

My experiences with this are that this is pretty much true, especially if the volunteer or employee is feeling that they aren't sure if they want to continue in that role. If they are questioning if they want to continue, the volunteer is more likely to just not do as great a job, because, their income isn't tied to it. An employee is more likely to continue doing the best they can because, even if they want to get out of that field, they'll still need to use that employer as a reference, and in the meantime, still need the paycheck.

N965VJ

I'm sorry that you feel that way; I see nothing disrespectful, unprofessional, etc. about a healthy public debate between TB members.



Agreed 100%. ^



Demoting? When a FTer was made a Mod of a forum I frequent, I expressed my condolences publicly.

Ancien Maestro

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Came out a bit funny.. but how else would you describe it with mods? Somebody forcing you to step down, when you just want to do your job?

Mods are a stable workforce, who hardly get the accolades for the hard work they deserve.. A nail in the coffin to introduce new restrictions.. FT needs new and more mods so that new forums can be introduced and served.. but I'm a newbie, so maybe my opinion is a bit fresh?

RichMSN

Except that the entire process is closed. I've received a number of PMs from loyal and regular posters who have applied to be mods only to be told that "we have enough mods" or that "they aren't suitable to be mods" without any further explanation and yet some mods have 3-4 forums under their remit.

You say stable. Other say stagnant. Tomato, tomahto.

nsx

My advice to people in that position is to send a PM to the Community Director volunteering to help in any capacity in any forum. That could lead somewhere good.

tcook052

Huh? In one post you say no new restrictions on Mod's yet in this post you say they should be subject to new regulations to be directed by TB:

Which is it?

Markie

I think the comes down to the character of the person. If they are happy with doing a bad job, I am not sure they'd do a good job if they were paid a fortune. I know volunteers who spend hours doing the very best job they can - being trained, at their own expense. And that's not just on FT.

I have no doubt you sincerely hold your views, but they denigrate the work of all volunteers as being second class and that I cannot agree with.

nsx

That's OK. Nobody paid him to comment. He's a volunteer. According to his theory, that's why his commentary is all bollixed up.

Dovster

Your post illustrates my point. You are well-educated and articulate yet you made two (minor) grammatical errors in it.

You are not alone. I am a professional writer and my posts are full of such errors and tons of typos.

I suspect that when you write for business purposes there are no such mistakes. I know that I not only use spell check but I also run my words through Word to see if it has any problem with my grammar.

(I also wait an hour before submitting any work so as to allow myself to proof it with fresh eyes,)

We take this extra care because we are being paid to produce the most professional work in all aspects. When we come to FT (or do any other kind of unpaid writing) we are nowhere near as careful.

Dovster

Actually, you are right. I was commenting on exactly that but you hit the "Submit" button before I did.

nsx

You say I'm right that you're wrong. But since you're wrong, that must also be wrong. So you're right...



My head hurts. I'm going to bed!