Swiss First Class Lounge just for Swiss
Jan 8, 2019, 8:55 pm
#406
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The vans do the A-E shuttle at regular intervals, taking whoever shows up at A for the shuttle. So in order not to leave anyone waiting for the next shuttle they use the larger capacity vans instead of the cars. The cars usually do the apron pick-ups and drop-offs because they know the exact passenger numbers.
If they need more capacity at a ramp position then they will use a van indeed.
If they need more capacity at a ramp position then they will use a van indeed.
Whats the best way to do this?
Go to the E FCL(never been there), do immigration there and then Limo/Shuttle Service from there to A FCL ?
How much time you need?I will have 1h50min arrival/departure
many thanks,
Ettrich
Jan 8, 2019, 10:15 pm
#407
Join Date: May 2016
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You would be greeted at terminal E and escorted to A as part of the new meet and greet service for F pax. You can obviously refuse this and go to the E lounge but the lines for imigration/passport can be long sometimes so 1:50 isn't super long, but you could still spend 45 minutes or so in the E lounge.
Jan 8, 2019, 11:02 pm
#408
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Just a Word of advice: e Lounge does not offer shuttle or immigration. Once you head there, you’re on your own.
my advice would be to take the meet and greet service to a lounge as it’s much easier from there for your LH flight.
my advice would be to take the meet and greet service to a lounge as it’s much easier from there for your LH flight.
Jan 8, 2019, 11:53 pm
#409
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If you want to experience the lounge in E, which is much nicer than the one in A, go there for half an hour or so and enjoy a meal, the view, the outdoor terrace etc.
This means, however, that you will have to take the Heidi train to the main terminal and clear immigration there, which is usually pretty quick (except for a few arrival waves, i.e. you need a bit of buffer). If it does not take too long, go to the FCL in A and wait for your flight.
This means, however, that you will have to take the Heidi train to the main terminal and clear immigration there, which is usually pretty quick (except for a few arrival waves, i.e. you need a bit of buffer). If it does not take too long, go to the FCL in A and wait for your flight.
Jan 9, 2019, 4:59 am
#410
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I will arrive in F with LX at E-Gates,transfering to an LX Schengen A Gate Flight to MUC (E195)
Whats the best way to do this?
Go to the E FCL(never been there), do immigration there and then Limo/Shuttle Service from there to A FCL ?
How much time you need?I will have 1h50min arrival/departure
many thanks,
Ettrich
If your MUC flight is at a gate, then you will have to walk there, whether from A or from E. If it has an outside position then they will drive you to the plane from FCL A, not from FCL E.
Jan 13, 2019, 2:34 pm
#411
Join Date: May 2017
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I was allowed into the LX FC Lounge in A and E with a United code share ticket flying on LX metal. Read on for details and why I may have just been lucky.
I was in Zurich last week, January 5, 2019. I was returning on Swiss LX8 to the USA, ZRH-ORD in first class bought on United's website. I was prepared to be turned away. When I checked in (with my family, they were in Business class), I asked the agent about the policy of not allowing access to code share ticket holders to the FC lounge. He said he wasn't aware of that, but he would call them. I asked him not to call them.
I looked for the entrance to the FC lounge as they have their own security but I couldn't find it and didn't look too hard and the lines were short at regular security. This was my first flight originating out of ZRH and I was quite confused about where I was and where to go. That's another topic I suppose, but I did find the FC Lounge in A while my family headed to the Senator Lounge in E where our departure would be. I handed the lounge attendant my paper ticket freshly printed with a Swiss logo on it. She did not scan it, and I was welcomed in and given a tour. She suggested I go to the E Lounge and I mentioned I intended to but I wanted to visit this lounge briefly. I was given a time to meet a driver for a ride to the E FC Lounge. The A FC Lounge is nice and I would have had no problem staying there. Unlike E, they do have a cigar room with cigars but I didn't partake.
I was driven to E along with three other passengers. I was hoping that the elevator would take me "into" the lounge past the lounge attendants but it was the same elevator everyone takes. In other words, I was hoping showing my boarding pass in A meant it wouldn't be checked again in E - but it was. The same thing happened, I showed them my boarding pass and was welcomed in. I stepped into the toilet shortly after that and upon returning to my seat, you have to walk by the elevators and my family stepped off the elevator - good timing. They were allowed in with me but they needed my Boarding pass again. Note that I never saw them scan my boarding pass but they did look at the computer. I wonder if they simply have a list of all FC passengers for the day?
So we were able to enjoy the lounge although we really didn't take advantage of it much beyond sitting, drinking soft drinks, and water, and one glass of champagne. I walked down to the Senator lounge to experience the whisky bar and tried some scotch. I think I enjoyed that as much or more than the FC lounge.
When leaving for our gate, in a car due to our flight being moved away from E, I asked the lounge attendant that admitted me if they let Code Share tickets have access and she said, "Absolutely Not! All Swiss only!" She obviously doesn't care to check on that or she could have easily seen my 016 ticket number. The other attendant (who was standing there and overheard this) coincidentally was getting on the elevator with us. I showed her my ticket when the doors closed and said I bought this from United. She smiled and said she hoped we enjoyed it and she didn't care about that and welcomed us back!
I was in Zurich last week, January 5, 2019. I was returning on Swiss LX8 to the USA, ZRH-ORD in first class bought on United's website. I was prepared to be turned away. When I checked in (with my family, they were in Business class), I asked the agent about the policy of not allowing access to code share ticket holders to the FC lounge. He said he wasn't aware of that, but he would call them. I asked him not to call them.
I looked for the entrance to the FC lounge as they have their own security but I couldn't find it and didn't look too hard and the lines were short at regular security. This was my first flight originating out of ZRH and I was quite confused about where I was and where to go. That's another topic I suppose, but I did find the FC Lounge in A while my family headed to the Senator Lounge in E where our departure would be. I handed the lounge attendant my paper ticket freshly printed with a Swiss logo on it. She did not scan it, and I was welcomed in and given a tour. She suggested I go to the E Lounge and I mentioned I intended to but I wanted to visit this lounge briefly. I was given a time to meet a driver for a ride to the E FC Lounge. The A FC Lounge is nice and I would have had no problem staying there. Unlike E, they do have a cigar room with cigars but I didn't partake.
I was driven to E along with three other passengers. I was hoping that the elevator would take me "into" the lounge past the lounge attendants but it was the same elevator everyone takes. In other words, I was hoping showing my boarding pass in A meant it wouldn't be checked again in E - but it was. The same thing happened, I showed them my boarding pass and was welcomed in. I stepped into the toilet shortly after that and upon returning to my seat, you have to walk by the elevators and my family stepped off the elevator - good timing. They were allowed in with me but they needed my Boarding pass again. Note that I never saw them scan my boarding pass but they did look at the computer. I wonder if they simply have a list of all FC passengers for the day?
So we were able to enjoy the lounge although we really didn't take advantage of it much beyond sitting, drinking soft drinks, and water, and one glass of champagne. I walked down to the Senator lounge to experience the whisky bar and tried some scotch. I think I enjoyed that as much or more than the FC lounge.
When leaving for our gate, in a car due to our flight being moved away from E, I asked the lounge attendant that admitted me if they let Code Share tickets have access and she said, "Absolutely Not! All Swiss only!" She obviously doesn't care to check on that or she could have easily seen my 016 ticket number. The other attendant (who was standing there and overheard this) coincidentally was getting on the elevator with us. I showed her my ticket when the doors closed and said I bought this from United. She smiled and said she hoped we enjoyed it and she didn't care about that and welcomed us back!
Jan 13, 2019, 2:55 pm
#412
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You were not on a codeshare but on an LX flight number...
Jan 13, 2019, 2:55 pm
#413
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What was the flight number on your ticket? LX8 or UAxxxx?
ticket stock doesn’t matter, it’s the actual flight number.
ticket stock doesn’t matter, it’s the actual flight number.
Jan 13, 2019, 3:50 pm
#414
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Code:
14JAN MON ZRH/Z‡1 ORD/CST-7
1LX 8 F6 A6 J9 C9 D0 Z0 ZRHORD 1320 1625 333 MS 0 DCA /E
P0 Y9 B9 M9 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
2UA/LX 9726 J4 C4 D0 Z0 P0 Y4 ZRHORD 1320 1625 333 M 0 DCA /E
B4 M4 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
It is flight number and not ticket stock that matters.
Jan 14, 2019, 4:57 am
#415
Join Date: Apr 2005
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The nice (for some of us...) thing about the FCL in Zurich and Geneva is the rule that "HON Circle trumps everything" when you are on a Star Alliance carrier. So, non-HON flying on LX in First Class but the flight number on the ticket is not LX - no FCL. But HON flying on a dirt-cheap TK or TP fare to his beach vacation - FCL access is granted. Also for Edelweiss, which even includes the car service. But not for Eurowings, despite it being part of the Lufthansa Group, unless it's booked under LX flight number.
Kinda kafkaesque...
Kinda kafkaesque...
Jan 14, 2019, 10:42 am
#416
Join Date: Feb 2013
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The nice (for some of us...) thing about the FCL in Zurich and Geneva is the rule that "HON Circle trumps everything" when you are on a Star Alliance carrier. So, non-HON flying on LX in First Class but the flight number on the ticket is not LX - no FCL. But HON flying on a dirt-cheap TK or TP fare to his beach vacation - FCL access is granted. Also for Edelweiss, which even includes the car service. But not for Eurowings, despite it being part of the Lufthansa Group, unless it's booked under LX flight number.
Kinda kafkaesque...
Kinda kafkaesque...
Jan 17, 2019, 2:09 pm
#417
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: UA
Posts: 16
I don't recall if my boarding pass had LX8 or UAxxx on it but I assume it was LX8 due to the fact that I checked in at the Swiss counter.(?) Looking at my outbound segments from USA to Europe (IAH-FRA), those boarding passes have LH441 and I checked in with United. So I assume that none of my boarding passes had UA flight numbers.
I'm not sure if this matters, but I booked my tickets on the United website after finding the flights on Google Flights. I know you can't go directly to UA's website and get a first class ticket as they don't sell them that way, however, you can get first class tickets on LH and LX from United by first going through Google Flights.
Assuming I had a Swiss flight number (LX8), what's the difference in this ticket and a code share ticket with a UA flight number? I bought it from the United website with no interaction with Swiss other than checking in.
I'm not sure if this matters, but I booked my tickets on the United website after finding the flights on Google Flights. I know you can't go directly to UA's website and get a first class ticket as they don't sell them that way, however, you can get first class tickets on LH and LX from United by first going through Google Flights.
Assuming I had a Swiss flight number (LX8), what's the difference in this ticket and a code share ticket with a UA flight number? I bought it from the United website with no interaction with Swiss other than checking in.
Jan 17, 2019, 2:44 pm
#418
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I don't recall if my boarding pass had LX8 or UAxxx on it but I assume it was LX8 due to the fact that I checked in at the Swiss counter.(?) Looking at my outbound segments from USA to Europe (IAH-FRA), those boarding passes have LH441 and I checked in with United. So I assume that none of my boarding passes had UA flight numbers.
I'm not sure if this matters, but I booked my tickets on the United website after finding the flights on Google Flights. I know you can't go directly to UA's website and get a first class ticket as they don't sell them that way, however, you can get first class tickets on LH and LX from United by first going through Google Flights.
Assuming I had a Swiss flight number (LX8), what's the difference in this ticket and a code share ticket with a UA flight number? I bought it from the United website with no interaction with Swiss other than checking in.
I'm not sure if this matters, but I booked my tickets on the United website after finding the flights on Google Flights. I know you can't go directly to UA's website and get a first class ticket as they don't sell them that way, however, you can get first class tickets on LH and LX from United by first going through Google Flights.
Assuming I had a Swiss flight number (LX8), what's the difference in this ticket and a code share ticket with a UA flight number? I bought it from the United website with no interaction with Swiss other than checking in.
The issue with lounge access is that it is restricted to Swiss first class passengers. If you had purchased a code share (for example UAxxxx) you would have been a United first class customer, travelling on a flight operated by Swiss. Therefore ineligible for lounge access because you were not a true Swiss First customer, travelling on a Swiss flight number.
Where you buy your ticket also has little relevance. Airlines can sell tickets on behalf of other airlines. Airlines aren’t restricted to selling code shares. So for example while united could sell you a flight under UAxxxx, the could also sell you the same flight under LXxxx. But of course Swiss was usually much more expensive.
So in your case, you bought your ticket from United, but they sold you a proper Swiss ticket (not a code share), As such you were a swiss first customer (not a united one), and eligible for lounge access.
Jan 17, 2019, 2:56 pm
#419
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The issue with lounge access is that it is restricted to Swiss first class passengers. If you had purchased a code share (for example UAxxxx) you would have been a United first class customer, travelling on a flight operated by Swiss. Therefore ineligible for lounge access because you were not a true Swiss First customer, travelling on a Swiss flight number.
Jan 17, 2019, 3:13 pm
#420
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