Fine. I agree that things will somehow be subjective.

Now, would you be so kind as to explain what is the subjective view makes the posting on the Flyertalk tags remain. I can only think of the subjectivity coming from the very specific interest of some at Flyertalk: If moved to Siberia, many may not read the post and consequently not buy the tags.

I would ask you to admit that the subjetive criteria used although subjective, it is not consistent, but capricious.

I posted 17 times in the month prior to August 12th, and only once since then. I now decided not to post in milesbuzz anymore -though I still check the board, but mostly for the fun of checking what is closed and what is not.

Again, I have no problem with having some kind of policy that deals with misplaced posts, but what got me annoyed was the arrogant, cocky, pedantic and intimidating attitude shown in replies from the moderators.


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The trouble with resisting temptation is..... that you may not get another chance.

The Buzz looks like a dogs breakfast this week. What are being closed down and moved are often vaguely ON topic, like Miles realted threads about Air Vietnam and the above mentioned Amex one. However a dozen threads with no connection whatever to "Miles" are still happily there - about car rentals, car insurance, $0 Hilton nights, Afghan Talibans, Star Alliance Gold ratings, Weather forecasts, Dining programs, and of course those flouro luggage tags.

If that Buzz Forum has TWO (2) erstwhile Moderators and yet consistently exhibits more off-topic posts than any other Forum, including most which of course have NO moderators, I rest my case on this thread title "DO WE NEED MODERATORS"?

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Any of you people every consider that the moderators are volunteers?! Every consider it was a long weekend.

The reason The Buzz has the most off topic posts is twofold. It is the topmost forum for lazy a*ses and it is the most general outside of Omni.

You ingrates make me feel sick.

Dorian

Dorian. as suggested above, maybe that lack of caffeine is the cause of your sickness?

If there had been NO locking/moving of The Buzz threads due to a holiday your now very tired old argument holds perhaps a SMIDGEON of logic. Alas there were selective and rather inappropriate lockdowns in the last day, whilst cheerfully ingnoring all that other rubbish, so you are just blowin' in the wind. All except you seem to realise that.

A volunteer firefighter is expected to put out fires, nip them in the bud, or he simply does not volunteeer in the first place.

I know a volunteer firefighter who snapped and started burning down houses of those he felt didn't appreciate him...

Dorian

I strongly second it and three cheers for your frank opinion. Dorian You need caffeine AND Prozac

It seems Dorian could use a better class of acquaintance, too.

Ya, I am terrible.

Dorian

C'mon everyone, could ya' PLEASE lighten up a bit?

And maybe also cheer up a bit too!

Have a great night all.

I have to differ on your interpretation Essxjay of what a phrase like 'kiddo' means - americanism or not.

I do not recall a single occasion in which an American friend, colleage, customer or supplier, reservations agent, check-in clerk, ever called me 'kiddo'. Hence I think it is not normal parlance.

Kiddo - IMHO - is a form of paternalism - demeaning a person by referring to them like a child has to do with statements of power, issues of control and relationships based on weaker/stronger.

In what used to be a community - we now seem to have our first police. That I think is unfortunate.

could someone call the ASPCA... there's a dead horse being beaten...

I have been called "kiddo" many times by my pet dead horse.

My pet horse died after I called him "kiddo"

A cautionary tale for Markie and others. Sometime around the mid-1980s, Howard Cosell (a pretty famous white sports announcer in the U.S.) received a lot of grief for saying something like "look at that little monkey run" in reference to a black football player. The politically correct piled on Cosell even though he had a good record on civil rights. I don't remember the exact details but I believe that incident helped contribute to Cosell's departure from network television. A recent HBO documentary on Cosell interviewed one of his family members describing how he frequently used to refer to his grandkids as "little monkeys" as they scampered around. Most telling, however, was a tape of a college football game HBO showed in which Cosell referred to Mike Adamle (later of American Gladiators commentating fame) as a "little monkey." Adamle, of course, is white. This suggests we should be cautious about getting out the lynch mob over use of any particular word or term especially when, as in the case of Cosell, there was considerable evidence that he was far from the racist he was made out to be.

Now, I clearly have too much time on my hands, but a not so quick search on the Community forum reveals the threads below where the term "kiddo" is used by Essxjay and others. The usage there does not appear either paternalistic or demeaning. Moreover, while I've never met Essxjay (or anyone else on this board), her posts (unlike some of those by others in this thread) have never struck me as unfriendly or antagonistic. I'm just tired of the vitriol directed at the moderators at a personal level by some of those who don�t like the new policies. I�m all for a vigorous debate (I approve of the moderators but don't particularly like the multiple boards) but some people are taking things way too personally and are being a little immoderate.

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MagMile: Amen, Brother, Amen!