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drbala Aug 11, 2001 10:20 am

Do we need moderators?
 
What does the forum Feel? Be frank

BlondeBomber Aug 11, 2001 10:22 am

absof***nglutely

Moderator1 Aug 11, 2001 10:25 am

drbala - there is a lot of history to the question you ask. The decision has been made by the owners of FlyerTalk to implement moderators. There is no reason to debate the presence of moderators on FlyerTalk.

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burkey
FlyerTalk Miles Moderator
The Buzz
American Airlines
[email protected]

ChaseTheMiles Aug 11, 2001 11:39 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Moderator1:
drbala - there is a lot of history to the question you ask. The decision has been made by the owners of FlyerTalk to implement moderators. There is no reason to debate the presence of moderators on FlyerTalk.
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M1:

I beg to differ. There is no need to censor drbala's post because she is simply asking what people feel and think. She is not asking for a debate with FlyerTalk.

QuietLion Aug 11, 2001 11:45 am

It's off topic for this forum, though. This is a discussion of mileage programs, not bulletin boards. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

fscher Aug 11, 2001 1:19 pm

.........and since there are only a few moderators on a few boards - isn't this just a trial? Are full blown moderators a given?

milesrus Aug 11, 2001 3:51 pm

What is a moderator?

Why are they only on some programs but not all?

nologic Aug 11, 2001 4:07 pm

Moderator 1:

I am surprised by your resistance to debating/discussing the value/role of moderators.

I certainly think discussing this kind of stuff is within the spirit of the FT community...I think people are commenting here because they care, not out of any ill-will.

As I mentioned in my recent Siberia post, I don't blame the Moderators for enforcing the rules. I think the rules themselves go too far....and should be debated.

If I owned FT, I would invite feedback as a way to learn and continually improve. But I don't, so if the owners don't want feedback on these issues, then let us know.

They seem to have sought feedback like this in the past, and I suspect the current changes themselves are the result of interpreting feedback like this from the community?


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fscher Aug 11, 2001 4:09 pm

ok, here is a quote from Randy on 7/20 from his Forum in regards to moderators. He was looking for feedback from the moderators and maybe he will be interested in feedback from the community as well:
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We have one goal with this and that is to make sure it works. After two weeks of making sure our plans are doable and with the feedback we receive from the 3 amigos, we will introduce 12 other members to help you out. They are here only to make sure your experience while on FlyerTalk is everything you want it to be.
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Yes, this is Randy's board. However, it is a business and advertising& future reservations look to be part of it. I
believe he will want a majority happy and participate so the community will grow and make this one of the few dot com business models to truly grow and be profitable. While this may really be a joy to Randy, I doubt he is in this just for his good health!
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SuperSlug Aug 11, 2001 6:58 pm

Do we need 'em? Yes we do.

Do we need 'em to move posts that are "outside" the scope of the forum they're posted in but are doing just fine there thankyouverymuch?

No, we don't.

pointsgirl Aug 11, 2001 7:42 pm

It seems to me that the moderators are closing threads left and right. They just recently closed down a thread in which someone was asking why they were closing down all the threads. Maybe moderators are needed to keep people from getting out of hand, Maybe moderators are needed for the occasional person who goes way out of line and says something that offends the entire flyer talk community, But I certainly do not think moderators are needed to move threads around from one place to another. This only creats confusion and a lot of work for not only the moderators, but for the people of flyertalk, because we never know where a post or a thread will eventually end up. I also do not think moderators need to close down threads if there is no hostility or nothing offensive.
Thats just my two cents!
Thanks

ScottC Aug 12, 2001 7:11 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by pointsgirl:
It seems to me that the moderators are closing threads left and right. They just recently closed down a thread in which someone was asking why they were closing down all the threads. Maybe moderators are needed to keep people from getting out of hand, Maybe moderators are needed for the occasional person who goes way out of line and says something that offends the entire flyer talk community, But I certainly do not think moderators are needed to move threads around from one place to another. This only creats confusion and a lot of work for not only the moderators, but for the people of flyertalk, because we never know where a post or a thread will eventually end up. I also do not think moderators need to close down threads if there is no hostility or nothing offensive.
Thats just my two cents!
Thanks
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Right on! Let the moderators MODERATE, not regulate. As far as I am concerned it would be better just to control the out of hand posts which pop ut every now and then.


unixone Aug 12, 2001 8:05 am

Being new to this board, but having lurked
a long time before joining, I would have to
say the addition of moderators has made me
less likely to post. The concept does not
bother me but the way in which it is being
handled seems like censorship not moderation.

For some reason I keep thinking they are more
like Delta's RPU police and not moderators.

(joke guys)

Goldlust Aug 12, 2001 8:08 am

As stated before: I seriously doubt it. At least not the way it is now.

Of course we need someone to step in if somebody seriously crosses a line but to my knowledge such incidents are rare.

I am not going to comment any more of the strange movements of threads away from The Buzz.

However, I do find it strange that the present moderators would oppose a discussion of their moderation. Also I fail to see why they feel like defending everything they do.

After all, just like in soccer the greatest judge (and in this case moderator) is the one who's actions are not commented on.

If/when on some sunny day nobody wants to discuss the moderators then we will know that they are doing a good job.



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Moderator1 Aug 12, 2001 8:47 am

First - Please read the entire thread to date, no where did I oppose the discussion of the role of the moderators on FlyerTalk. I did however make it quite clear there there would be moderators. That was my direct reply to drbala.

Second - At the end of the day, the bottom line, take home message is that FlyerTalk Miles is for the discussion of Miles & Points, not whiskey, not kids in first class, not tipping the FA's, and not if overweight people should buy 10 seats or not. All that is for FlyerTalk Travel, peroid.

I'm at a loss to understand why that argument continues. At home, do you not have seperate places where you put your socks, underware, pants and shirts? Or do you just open a door or drawer and chuck'em in all messed up? I doubt it. It's the same thing here, and here things will be organized.

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burkey
FlyerTalk Miles Moderator
The Buzz
American Airlines
[email protected]

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