If you are looking for a thread, you might check here for the latest:

"Misposted Threads" ????

http://www.flyertalk.com/forumcgi/fo...0&topic=000063

Here's the latest batch for example:

Topic Topic Starter Replies Last Post

Plane crashes into the World Trade Ctr Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 doc 339 02-28-2002 09:32 PM

Clever Parking Tricks: Know Any Good Ones? Pages: 1 2 3 Bidkat 70 02-28-2002 09:02 PM

Airlines you've flown that no longer are Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 terenz 140 02-28-2002 07:24 PM

who else is sick to death of being bullied by "FAA regulations"? Pages: 1 2 richard 56 02-28-2002 09:33 AM

Americans Are Taking Self-Defense Classes to Protect Against Hijackers wigstheone 1 02-28-2002 08:09 AM

Airbus Prepares to Bet the Company Building a Huge New Jet Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 doc 146 02-28-2002 06:48 AM

Final Horizon for Boeing's 747? wigstheone 0 02-28-2002 06:44 AM

Ansett Australia is dead ........ * * AGAIN * * Joh 2 02-28-2002 06:41 AM

State Dept traveler advisiory writetorich 12 02-28-2002 04:59 AM

Medal of Honor winner searched at airport Darq 1 02-27-2002 09:31 PM

Airport Security / I-Team Reveals "Back Door" Security Concerns EPS 0 02-27-2002 07:40 PM

Engine Of Ryanair Jet Catches Fire During Landing wigstheone 1 02-27-2002 03:53 PM

As Security Tightens, the Race Goes to the Savviest doc 34 02-27-2002 01:33 PM

What to expect during presidential landing? PointJunkie 23 02-27-2002 12:50 PM

Airport Security Delays Shorter But Still Inconsistent doc 13 02-27-2002 07:35 AM

"Going postal" Pages: 1 2 PIONEER 40 02-26-2002 04:49 PM

USPS - soon airport security will have the same low standards johnep1 21 02-26-2002 01:57 PM

U.S. airlines may shed regional carriers - analyst doc 17 02-26-2002 09:18 AM

travel agent books segment in a higher bucket than the fare allows DLSTR 1 02-26-2002 05:02 AM

Flight Attendants Call for Strong New Airline Safety & Security Reforms Pages: 1 2 doc 63 02-25-2002 05:28 PM

Ever wonder how runways are named? Pages: 1 2 eastwest 55 02-25-2002 05:05 PM

We have gone NUTS. Man arrested during "olympic" flight. Pages: 1 2 3 Live4Miles 87 02-25-2002 01:05 PM

Please call the FAA Security Hotliine 866-289-9673 Pages: 1 2 Punki 38 02-25-2002 12:42 PM

International flightTracker? jetsetter777 1 02-25-2002 09:59 AM

The End of "United Connection" Marvella 2 02-25-2002 09:49 AM

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My suggestion is:

DO NOT DO IT!!!!

Or at the very least define the areas more specifically beforehand and please give some advance notice!

Thanks!

And the purpose of this new forum is...............?????

Presumably, a place to rest until a more proper home can be found!

Aside from other priorities, IMHO, if moderators and Randy were possibly a bit more clear as to what would/will specifically be moved, why, and to where, or even simply why and where a given post would better be made ["here"] in the future, we would all get a better feel for proper posting in this new era of FT! A general comment that some will be moved tells one precious little. And no comment tells one even less, no?

Unfortunately, I also still have a few questions about some of the choices being made, such as why not to SPAM, or why not to TRAVEL/NEWS rather than MILES/NEWS and/or vice versa, why not adding a posting a comment indicating misplacement to current ongoing threads for future reference, why not issue a strong "philosophical" statement regarding proper posting from the powers that be, and so on.

Again, this will only work well IMHO, if one moves "slowly but surely", and is as absolutely consistent as possible.

To be so, clear and VERY apparent guidelines, known to ALL, is SO essential, IMHO!

Why even move all the old threads? Can't they perhaps be "grandfathered" as it were?

Why not, for the time being, perhaps just move a thread only if it's really blatantly in a truly wrong, almost damaging place and thus when there's a good and suitable example of an equally blatant and truly obvious correct place to place/move it?

Also, possibly in good compromising fashion, perhaps just adding a short note in effect as to what and why one may "please see that over there" where there's a better suited thread placed in a more appropriate forum just to discourage parallel discussions that are tough to follow for all.

Similarly a brief friendly note that "such topics are perhaps better placed in... and will very likely be closed & moved in the near future to..." would likely serve both posters and moderators folks well, IMHO.

Remember, it was the "flames" and such, and not the misplaced topics or disorganization per se, that prompted us to embark on this current era of moderators being employed, right?

As you know, I'd previously posted my sentiments regarding this issue and it boils down to essentially "less is better"!

Perhaps we could permit "global" mileage earning possibilities to be posted in the BUZZ, since I believe that is what many FT'ers appear to want to see. Maybe the BUZZ could be reserved for such matters and we can additionally just have FT Miles NEWS reserved for NON-direct miles earning, but for only faintly related posts?

Is this possibly workable?

And I agree it is essentially the right direction and that it will ultimately help to restore FT's focus - just more slowly and surely, if possible.

Yet what to post, and where, is a real fundamental issue for folks these days.
Finding posts to retrieve already posted info, as well as to check prior to making a "new" post to avoid dup & triplicate posts is also at issue, IMHO.

A good awareness and subsequent ability to easily navigate among a huge board is proving to be somewhat complex for many including me - I fear it's a real potential nightmare.

An example I'd formerly offered was this one and if there are any thoughts/guidance on the appropriate fora to post it in, please let me know.

If AC were supposedly to be acquired by AA (and we know - that's kinda' absurd! ), does one post the info under AC, AA over in the original miles board or under "IN THE NEWS-Miles & Points" or on the nFT "Travel" board, perhaps in "TravelBuzz?"

With so many more categories, there are obviously more choices and it's tough to decide (& tough to search) and many multiple posts will likely occur and some discouragement by FT'ers who inadvertently post to the "wrong" forum and who do not receive prompt answers to their posts will increasingly occur. There will be many "errors" and possibly more and more argument over where something is properly posted! Most importantly, it will increasingly be somewhat difficult to recover the previously posted info in the future when one wants to check back to find it as posts are moved to a "proper" location. I'm afraid that the info could be hiding in so many different possible places!

Remember also please that if someone posts a link to a current thread to direct someone elsewhere for another discussion, that subsequently moving the thread in question to another fora, it will no longer be functional, right?

Also, and it is no small issue IMHO, in the interim, we have some serious "SEARCH" limitations as well. As I stated once previously, I truly feel the "what" to post, and "where," along with a viable search tool are perhaps the two most "pressing" issues now facing FT!

This is of coursem just my opinion! Thanks very much for listening and working so hard to try to help make FT a better place for ALL!

-Mark

[This message has been edited by doc (edited 02-28-2002).]

doc, what purpose does this thread serve? I think you could have made your point (that you don't like the idea of the misposted threads forum?) better by not including a distracting list of current topics that can be found there. All that shows is that you've mastered the art of copy and paste.

Don't do what?

What areas? Give advance notice of what?

FewMiles..

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I have a new favorite forum.

Now, if whoever came up with "misposted threads" would add a "misinformed posts" forum, and a "misguided posters" forum, then we'd really get something accomplished.

[This message has been edited by NJDavid (edited 03-01-2002).]

I just "read" your second post. Please be more to the point.

I don't understand you. Did you not quote Randy's post regarding the establishment of the "Misposted Threads" forum in at least one place and then basically thank him for the explanation? It sounded like you were satisfied with what he said there, but now you are questioning (?) the how and why of this forum?

The moderators and administrators can and should move or remove anything that is off-topic in the interests of keeping the board organised and focused. Up until now, they've done the laissez-fairse thing, but that isn't working and the amount of entropy is skyrocketing. Time for action, and overdue at that.

FewMiles..

FWIW, I was pleased to see ANY response and quite glad that the "issue" IS finally getting some much needed attention, IMHO.

Also, I'd understood, wrongly it would seem, that Randy's reply related to "MILESBUZZ!" My error! Sorry!

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum.../004894-3.html

Rather it is not, and apparently the entire FT board is now subject to being "relocated."

Again, briefly, IMHO, aside from a list of priorities noted previously:

"My Priorities to Possibly Consider for FT"

1) Moderators - what is/are their role(s)?

2) MilesBuzz - what goes there - and what doesn't?

3) Search - improvements in capabilities and/or ease of use?

4) When is a moderator out of line? What should be done in such a case(s)?

5) "OMNI", specifically what goes there, and also when, if at all, a moderator will be appointed to monitor it!

6) Should we also be electing and/or appointing a few "Alternate" TalkBoard members in order to rapidly replace any departing TB memebers for whatever reason.

Which is the most critical "issue" listed above here?

Moving old threads to "Misplaced Posts" and then, subsequently, again to a new and more proper home? I don't know!

For the record, I am "sensitive" to the need to restore focus and strongly favor it.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum73/HTML/000204.html

If Moderators and Randy were possibly a bit more clear as to what would/will specifically be moved, why, and to where, or even simply why and where a given post would better be made ["here"] in the future, we would all get a better feel for proper posting in this new era of FT! A general comment that some will be moved tells one precious little. And no comment tells one even less, no?

It is becoming very difficult to locate old threads of interset. IF you can't find 'em, why save 'em and eventually archive 'em at all?

In a nutshell, IMHO, while the FT boards continue to rage in "flames" we now have "Moderators" in place to lock threads, (which I can surely live with, even if I do not agree with their particular selections/ actions) and to arbitrarily move them, seemingly somewhat capriciously and without any advance notice as well! Why is this?

It's frankly much easier to find out where Dick Cheney is these days than any given FT post!

Why even move all the old threads? Can't they perhaps be "grandfathered" as it were and start NOW?

Why not, for the time being, perhaps just move a thread only if it's really blatantly in a truly wrong, almost damaging place and thus when there's a good and suitable example of an equally blatant and truly obvious correct place to place/move it?

Remember, it was the "flames" and such, and NOT misplaced topics or disorganization per se, that prompted us to embark on this current era of moderators being employed, right?

As you know, I'd previously posted my sentiments regarding this issue and it boils down, with reference to moving, essentially to "less is better"!

Again, FT is the "property" of Randy & Co, and as a guest I respect their actions and efforts and will try to provide whatever support that I personally can. We all have the option not to post after all! Thanks.

-Mark

The sorting scheme seemed to be pretty clear to me: discussion about specific airlines and specific programs goes, usually, in that airline's/that program's forum. (Example: "Best seats on United 777s" goes in the United forum.)

Hot news that affects several programs, or that requires a short time to act, might also go into MilesBuzz (example: "Airline A will match Airline B's status through 12/31/01" could go into MilesBuzz, or the A forum, or the B forum. "Government won't tax FF miles" could go into MilesBuzz.)

Travel news that isn't connected to FF miles and programs (e.g., "Screeners become government employees") goes into In The News and not into MilesBuzz (because it's relevant to travel generally, but not to any FF program).

News that isn't about FF programs and isn't about travel goes into OMNI (e.g., war news and the whereabouts of the Vice President). Also most questions and polls (e.g., "What kind of luggage do you like") goes into OMNI.

I'm all in favor of FT helping to sort out the misdirected topics.

It is clear, but the trouble is that FlyerTalk is poorly organized:

1.bmultiple pages that many people do not visit, and

2. too many forums.

As it is currently organized, FT is contrary to human behavior. Humans seek community with many users, rather than only a few people in a narrowly-defined niche topic.

Thanks, for the input, richard.

BTW, I just noticed this announcement, FWIW:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum75/HTML/000033.html

Of course, someone will complain that these should be in In The News: Miles and Points. Actually, since status comping has nothing to do with miles and points, obviously that should be in In the News: Travel or TravelBuzz!...

Again, one can always argue over In the News: Travel, In the News: Airports, AirportsBuzz!, or TravelBuzz!...

Well, gee, we have a Travel Technology forum; I suppose the traffic in there is far too great to accomodate discussions about luggage as well, so the obvious solution here is to create a Luggage forum. OMNI is clearly NOT appropriate, since its description specifically mandates "a discussion of all things NOT related to miles, points, travel, dining or airports". Certainly luggage is related to at least two of these.



[This message has been edited by eja (edited 03-05-2002).]

-Randy Petersen

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/000036.html


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And finally, at the request of actions of various FlyerTalk members, it has become apparent that we've not been as alert as we should have been in moderating the topical posts of certain forums. Since this can occasionally result in mis-communicating the opinions of other members, we've begun a more constant role of trying to keep forums in line with their description. As you might imagine, certain threads will seem missing while we move them from place to place. The biggest change will be in posts into MilesBuzz! Many threads have been moved from there to TravelBuzz! since they haven't been particularly wedded to the topic of miles and points. And, to clear up the saga of OMNI. It has not been discontinued and seems to enjoy all the unique perspectives it always has. This forum is available to members in the FlyerTalk Travel area of FlyerTalk. These changes will help board performance and we hope keep down the 'noise' that sometimes accompanies encounters of the wrong post. W!
e really are sorry if these changes have caused any concerns for you or anxiety. We were unfortunate to not have been able to tie the TalkBoard announcement in with this forum change until today.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forumcgi/ub...n=2452338.2002

[This message has been edited by doc (edited 03-05-2002).]

Anything new here, by chance?

There are many threads, possibly of interest, that remain effectively buried here, IMHO.

Thanks!

-Mark