margarita girl

tcdtcd

Are you sure on this? Every Marriott/SPG agent I've talked to (3 or 4 in last week) and everything I read on both websites says 50 nights in 2018, from either program or combined, gets you Platinum for 2019 and counts as a Plat consecutive year for LT. True?

CJKatl

You need 75 nights to hit legacy MR Plat but if you hit legacy MR Gold it will map to Plat in the new program and count as a year of Plat towards LT status. While technically true that you need 75 nights for Plat under the legacy MR program it is misleading to say you need 75 nights for 2019 Plat.

TravelinSperry

Right, since you're at 72, I'd wait. Don't go over 75 until after Aug 18 and merging. Some report that you must merge and then go over 75 to get the new 75 SNA benefit. I'm still searching lurkers responses to corroborate.

sandyph

hi,

how about a stay with check-out on the 18th singapore time?

Thanks

margarita girl

Any thoughts on whether I need to keep my COMBINED Marriott and SPG nights below 75? The 15 credit card nights I got on my Marriott account are putting me much higher than I'd like to be!

yyzlhr

TravelinSperry

Here's what I find:

This thread shows that to get the old Starwood 10 SNAs at 50 Starwood nights you needed to select/earn it by July 27:
SNA in the transition period

That date has obviously past. So only those who achieved 50 Starwood nights by then (no Marriott nights count) will get those 10 SNAs (and be eligible for choosing/receiving more than 10 SNAs this year).

Going forward Lurkers have stated this:
A16. Will members receive new SNA's when they qualify for 2019? (As posted on this wiki: Official announcement – See how our three loyalty programs will become one in August

It is unclear from that verbiage if a 'merged' collection of nights from both programs post Aug 18 qualifies, but it would seem to me that once you merge accounts after Aug 18 the new rules should apply. These rules allow for a choice at 50 and then again at 75, so it would seem to me that the 'combined' nights should make us eligible.

However in this thread, 10 night suite award qualification Lurker William solely describes getting a choice at 75 if you do it after Aug 1 and does not state anything re also getting an SNA choice at 50. So perhaps all we get is the one 5 SNA choice if we are over 50 nights after merging but under 75. But perhaps he was simply stating the choice at 50 via SPG and if that wasn't attained one would default to the new benefit choice of 5.

"Before the programs are merged (no date), one can pick up 10 SNA's by completing 50 nights in SPG. After the programs are merged (no date), one might also pick up another 5 by reaching 75 nights in SPG.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC"

Within this same thread HHonors Outsider responded to me as follows: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29789306-post35.html
"Originally Posted by TravelinSperry
So after Aug 1 nights will be combined to qualify for SNAs? For example, if one has 35 Starwood nights and 40 Marriott and then the program merges on Aug 1 - they'd be entitled to SNAs?
In this case after the accounts are successfully merged it should trigger emails providing member with the 50 and 75 gift options."

However no link was provided to where he got this info - and it was not corroborated by Lurkers who were following along in the thread.

So, if you have the option to not go over 75, it seems the safest route. But that said, I'm in agreement with HHonors outsider that a merger of accounts >75 on Aug 18 or after should result in one getting both choices of 5 SNAs at 50 and 75 simultaneously as those are the new program rules.

margarita girl

Thanks for all that. I crossed 50 SPG nights back in May so qualified for the 10 SNAs (even though they haven't been deposited in my account yet). I am currently at 54 SPG nights and 20 Marriott nights (damn those credit card nights!). I have 1-3 more SPG nights and 3 Marriott nights between now and Aug 18. I was thinking of removing my SPG/Marriott number from my reservations upon check-out and submitting them for retro-credit after I have merged my accounts. (I think this will be a gigantic pain though.) Alternatively, I could avoid merging my accounts and focus on hitting 75 nights with SPG before the end of the year. Would either of those scenarios improve my odds? Am I overthinking this? I'd like a free night rather than 5 more SNAs at 75 nights.

MSPeconomist

margarita girl

Nope. I got an email with the following information 3 times over the last few months:

I couldn't make up my mind on the free night vs 10 SNAs. By the time I decided to go with the SNAs, the website didn't work, so I figured I'd let nature take its course.

RogerD408

It's what i recall. Heaven only knows if it is what will be implemented. But it does make sense given it's a first-year-only problem and I can't see them putting a lot of effort into programing. IF you're able to hold off, then I'd say that's a smart thing to do. Also, who's to say that if you leave the accounts separated, and get to 50 and/or 75 in one or both after the 18th, you'd have the choice to select SNAs and maybe even hit 25 SNAs! Ten with SPG 50 nights before 7/27, another 5 at 75 SPG account nights and 5 each at 50 & 75 MR account nights. And you don't even have to keep the properties separated, just book under the different accounts.

shawneve

Does anyone think that SNAs will even be implemented and usable on Marriott properties right away?
I have two rooms booked at a property for Aug 22-24. One is a standard booking and the other for a premium room and costs extra points.
I need one premium room for the extra occupancy and it's lounge access.
Hotel does not look very full based on rates and availability therefore I would rather use SNAs to get the one (or both rooms) upgraded to a suite or premium room, and save some points.
I guess I could book 2 standards and the premium, apply SNAs to the standards and if SNAs are implemented and clear, I can cancel the premium booking. If they don't, I cancel one of the standards.

RogerD408

If I had to guess, I'd say no. But then their people should have been working on something up to now. Obviously that has not been communicating fine details about the new program. Given the timing of your stay, I would not count on anything, even normal upgrades and book what you need. We're (us and the properties) gonna need some time to digest what's happening and see how it works for us.

Ronger208