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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old May 24, 2017, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by travelswithmyself
Have you tried submitting a claim?
Nope, instead of wasting energy and above all, time, I just booked another hotel.

Do you reckon a claim would have been successful? Notwithstanding the obviously devious attempt to get around the BR Guarantee?
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Old May 24, 2017, 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by puchong
Nope, instead of wasting energy and above all, time, I just booked another hotel.

Do you reckon a claim would have been successful? Notwithstanding the obviously devious attempt to get around the BR Guarantee?
I would imagine so. SPG BRG is way better than other chains.
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Old May 24, 2017, 11:35 pm
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Originally Posted by puchong
Nope, instead of wasting energy and above all, time, I just booked another hotel.

Do you reckon a claim would have been successful? Notwithstanding the obviously devious attempt to get around the BR Guarantee?
Based on my past BRG experiences, your claim would be successful. As long as you are comparing your "standard" room rate with the base/entry level room of hotel's, then you will be successful.
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Old May 29, 2017, 4:20 pm
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Just got my second BRG approved.

Hotel Name: 11 Howard, New York
Arrival Date: 16/08/2017
Departure Date: 21/08/2017
Number of Rooms: 1
Room Type: Queen
Starwood Brand Room Rate: $275 plus tax
Competing: au.hotels.com
Competing rate: AU$383 inc tax
New rate: 211USD + tax. Approved in 12 hours.
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Old May 30, 2017, 12:49 pm
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Hotel Name: Westin Grande Sukhumvit
Dates: 1 nt in June
Number of Rooms: 1
Room Type: Deluxe
Starwood Brand Room Rate: ~4500thb plus tax
Competing: amoma.com
Competing rate: ~4500thb incl tax
New rate: ~4000thb + tax. Approved in less than 3 hours.
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Old May 31, 2017, 8:36 am
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Four Points by Sheraton San Diego

Hotel Name: Four Points by Sheraton San Diego
Dates: 4 nts in early August
Number of Rooms: 1
Room Type: 1K Traditional
Starwood Room Rate: $151+tax (non-refundable; booked $154 refundable)
Competing Site: otel.com
Competing Rate: $125+tax (refundable)
BRG reward: 20% discount
Confirmed Rate: $100+tax

Took four tries but approved 15 hrs after first claim. Submitted a $133 rate found on zenhotels.com but 2.5 hrs later the BRG agent said they couldn't find it, even though I could still see it. Regardless, I found the $125 rate on otel.com and submitted that claim 20 min later. Four hours later the BRG agent again claimed they couldn't find it, even though it was still there. Replied with an appeal to use the link I sent in the claim form but never heard back. Submitted a new claim form for the $125 otel.com rate and went to bed. Found the approved rate in my in-box this morning.
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Old Jun 1, 2017, 7:44 am
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Am I the only one who can't submit BRGs and instead gets this error message (in every browser)...

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/whybookhere/claimform/submit.html" on this server.

I got this on multiple computers too (none of which have ever submitted a BRG claim before)

Last edited by BigE; Jun 1, 2017 at 7:57 am
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Old Jun 1, 2017, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by BigE
Am I the only one who can't submit BRGs and instead gets this error message (in every browser)...

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/whybookhere/claimform/submit.html" on this server.

I got this on multiple computers too (none of which have ever submitted a BRG claim before)
Have you tried clearing cache and cookies and trying again? If so, send us a screenshot of the steps taken to get this error and we will run it the web assist team.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide, LLC

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Old Jun 2, 2017, 6:28 pm
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Been getting quick responses lately. I'm a happy camper.
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Old Jun 2, 2017, 9:43 pm
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Does anyone know a solution to this service charge problem? Amoma includes the service charge in the base price (at least for Aloft Bangkok), but the SPG BRG team won't take that into account. It was still approve, but I'm paying more than what it should be.

It's obvious that amoma includes the service charge in the base price because (a) they only add tax on top of that, not the service charge, and (b) the 7.7% tax they add comes out exactly right only after you first remove the 10% service charge. i.e., no tax on the service charge

I did ask for a second look, but they didn't acknowlege any of my arguments. I can't tell whether (a) they don't understand, or (b) as a rule, they don't take such things into account.

They also seem to see different prices than me, though I'm trying to fight only one battle at a time.

disclaimer: SPG's BRG program is still the best, in my opinion, even if it's not perfect.
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 2:26 am
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Hotel Name:Grande Bretagne - Athens, Greece
Arrival Date: Sept 22
Departure Date: Sept 24
Number of Rooms: 3
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: Classic butler service room, non-smoking: King Bed, 291-377 ft² / 27-35 m²
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: $698 USD
Company Room Provider: spg.com
Other Company Room Provider: amoma.com
Competing rate:$397
Comments: Fully flexible, including breakfast. The real kicker here is that SPG didn't offer the fully flexible with breakfast to everyone only SPG members. So I booked the SPG Members fully flexible breakfast rate which was insanely high!

I selected the 20% off competing rate so we shall see what happens as it appears to me a slam dunk....... so could get the rate down to 317 which is a 55% discount off the SPG rate! Come on baby let's get this done!
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 5:36 am
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Originally Posted by BigE

They also seem to see different prices than me, though I'm trying to fight only one battle at a time
Geo location. Use a proxy to spoof your IP address to the USA so you can see the price the agents can see.

i have had many claims denied because I live in Australia and they will only price what they see when searching from the United States.

Annoying to say the least.

Last edited by Croupier; Jun 3, 2017 at 6:10 am
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by Croupier
Geo location. Use a proxy to spoof your IP address to the USA so you can see the price the agents can see.

i have had many claims denied because I live in Australia and they will only price what they see when searching from the United States.

Annoying to say the least.
I don't know about their network setup, but all agents are not based in the US. Should the network vary between sites, this may explain why some 1:1 BRGs are approved, some denied.
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by remymartin
I don't know about their network setup, but all agents are not based in the US. Should the network vary between sites, this may explain why some 1:1 BRGs are approved, some denied.
It would be nice if they accepted screenshots to verify the price you are seeing based on you ip location.
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by remymartin
I don't know about their network setup, but all agents are not based in the US. Should the network vary between sites, this may explain why some 1:1 BRGs are approved, some denied.
Correct. Canada is NOT the US. And then there is India.
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