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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 6:43 am
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
I've been denied a few times. A few times been able to call and have a second look and gotten the BRG accepted. Some times not. It is what it is.

For the first time though I must call shenanigans.

At 10PM EDT i received a decline because neither the hotel nor the site in question were selling rooms for the hotel anymore. Immediately I checked and the same inventory that was available 24hours prior was still there. However due to the time there was nothing I could do.

Now, the hotels prices have increased and the 3rd party website as well making the BRG no longer attractive (still BRG-able, just not attractive).
Are you saying that the BRG team saw availability and pretended it wasn't there so they could deny your claim? I don't know how else to interpret "shenanigans"!

Frankly I'm embarrassed by some of the comments in this thread. I sure hope no one from the BRG team reads this. It is a known fact that locations, browsers, devices show different prices, availability. Also, sometimes humans make mistakes. Let's face it, 95% approval rate is pretty darn good. If you aren't happy with these numbers, why don't you go try your luck with Hilton, IHG or many of the other hotel chains.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
Are you saying that the BRG team saw availability and pretended it wasn't there so they could deny your claim? I don't know how else to interpret "shenanigans"!

Frankly I'm embarrassed by some of the comments in this thread. I sure hope no one from the BRG team reads this. It is a known fact that locations, browsers, devices show different prices, availability. Also, sometimes humans make mistakes. Let's face it, 95% approval rate is pretty darn good. If you aren't happy with these numbers, why don't you go try your luck with Hilton, IHG or many of the other hotel chains.
Oh, please. Cry me a river.

I'm saying there's availability at the hotel and on the 3rd party site. What the employee in question saw/searched clearly is not what the BRG application was attempting to go for.

For you to post the above and only later hedge that humans can make mistakes is absurd.... and then claim that I should take my business elsewhere....?

Fact is: Availability is still present on SPG and on 3rd party site. Stop being such a fanboi.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by Keyser
i've been having a real hard time lately with the brg team in india....filed a claim yesterday which was denied today because the agent said the rate on the third party website was higher....what he failed to realize is that the rate on that website includes tax (it clearly states that on the final booking page) while the rate on spg does not....i guess i'll have to make another call to the brg team to get this approved....
just as i suspected....a 5 minute phone call to the brg team & the claim has been approved....i just wish the team in india would get their act together....
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
Oh, please. Cry me a river.

I'm saying there's availability at the hotel and on the 3rd party site. What the employee in question saw/searched clearly is not what the BRG application was attempting to go for.

For you to post the above and only later hedge that humans can make mistakes is absurd.... and then claim that I should take my business elsewhere....?

Fact is: Availability is still present on SPG and on 3rd party site. Stop being such a fanboi.
I don't equate human error with shenanigans. But then again, English isn't my first language so maybe there is a different meaning that I'm not aware of.

I think the other reasons I gave are more likely anyhow (location, browser, device). I've missed out on BRGs for these reasons. I can still work with the program.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
I think the other reasons I gave are more likely anyhow (location, browser, device). I've missed out on BRGs for these reasons. I can still work with the program.
Yup agree. Most of the denials are the users fault for leaving out the small details.
Pro Tip: Be specific in your BRG claim and with specific I mean even small little details like App name and even OS on phone iphone or android.
Have had rates being shown only on my android but not on my girlfriend's iphone. Had to submit another claim in order to get it approved. By doing this will probably save everybody's time and might even shorter up on the current BRG queue of +24h. Can only imagine how many angry reply mails they receive every day but it's not in Starwoods interest to figure out how the sender see the rate. It's your responsibility to describe how you found it and sometimes it's a localized rate so it's for no show for them anyway.

Had to walk the hard way to figure out the whole BRG business. Lots of trying, lots of denials but all of my up coming hotels this year are all 100% successfully BRG:ed. Threads over here on Flyertalk and in other various hotel forums value extremely important information in order to get a successful Brg and I'm very thankful for this thread and in the other forums. Saved me lots of money and time. And in return I show Starwood and Marriott loyalty and with an upgrade to Platinum status after september 2017.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 11:21 am
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Yup agree. Most of the denials are the users fault for leaving out the small details.
Pro Tip: Be specific in your BRG claim and with specific I mean even small little details like App name and even OS on phone iphone or android.
Have had rates being shown only on my android but not on my girlfriend's iphone. Had to submit another claim in order to get it approved. By doing this will probably save everybody's time and might even shorter up on the current BRG queue of +24h. Can only imagine how many angry reply mails they receive every day but it's not in Starwoods interest to figure out how the sender see the rate. It's your responsibility to describe how you found it and sometimes it's a localized rate so it's for no show for them anyway.

Had to walk the hard way to figure out the whole BRG business. Lots of trying, lots of denials but all of my up coming hotels this year are all 100% successfully BRG:ed. Threads over here on Flyertalk and in other various hotel forums value extremely important information in order to get a successful Brg and I'm very thankful for this thread and in the other forums. Saved me lots of money and time. And in return I show Starwood and Marriott loyalty and with an upgrade to Platinum status after september 2017.
Wow, 100%! That's impressive indeed!

Can you please share what other strategies do you use in addition to what you read here? Also which phone app would you recommend for BRG?

Thanks!!
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 11:34 am
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I found a lower rate on Orbitz than on SPG ($7/night difference). I did not book yet. Now what.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer
I found a lower rate on Orbitz than on SPG ($7/night difference). I did not book yet. Now what.
You need to book your flexible rate on SPG first. *Make sure it allows for cancellations in case your BRG request is denied.

Then you complete the form with the necessary info..and wait a long time for a response.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by CanRulez
You need to book your flexible rate on SPG first. *Make sure it allows for cancellations in case your BRG request is denied.

Then you complete the form with the necessary info..and wait a long time for a response.
Both rates I found are non-refundable.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer
Both rates I found are non-refundable.
It doesn't matter if the Orbitz rate is non-refundable. They will still match the Orbitz rate.

But you first must make a booking on the SPG site before they will even look at your BRG. Just make sure the SPG rate you book is flexible in case your claim is denied.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by CanRulez
It doesn't matter if the Orbitz rate is non-refundable. They will still match the Orbitz rate.

But you first must make a booking on the SPG site before they will even look at your BRG. Just make sure the SPG rate you book is flexible in case your claim is denied.
So if I make a refundable rate booking:

1) SPG will look at Orbitz and sees the lower non-refundable rate
2) Applies BRG to their non-refundable rate
3) Grabs my booking and turns it into a non-refundable one?

Last edited by Dieuwer; Apr 19, 2017 at 12:01 pm Reason: typo
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer
So if I make a refundable rare booking:

1) SPG will look at Orbitz and sees the lower non-refundable rate
2) Applies BRG to their non-refundable rate
3) Grabs my booking and turns it into a non-refundable one?
SPG will leave your rate as flexible, but will still match the price.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by l380
Wow, 100%! That's impressive indeed!

Can you please share what other strategies do you use in addition to what you read here? Also which phone app would you recommend for BRG?

Thanks!!
Book well in advance and check every day on different 3rd party. I recommend Kayak's own app. Sometimes it shows mobile rates. Also have a Kayak account logged in for better private rates.
3rd party could differ depending on where you are staying. For instance myself I travel to Japan every summer. Sure Kayak and Hotelscombined help me a lot but I try to use their local 3rd party sites as well, for instance http://travel.rakuten.co.jp/
Use Google Chrome to translate the whole site to english or something and you are set with the local rate instead of international (usually higher) rate.

The hard thing is to find these local 3rd party. It's just Google that can help you there.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer
So if I make a refundable rate booking:

1) SPG will look at Orbitz and sees the lower non-refundable rate
2) Applies BRG to their non-refundable rate
3) Grabs my booking and turns it into a non-refundable one?
There's a wiki at the top of this thread that gives you all the info you need.
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I haven't received a response and it's been 48 hours. Also I didn't get the acknowledgement email that my BRG claim had been received and I resubmitted and still nothing. Is there a problem with the system?
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