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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Jaenks
And in the terms is written also that same claims during one week in same area or city MAY counted as one stay not will be counted. In reality it depends who is processing. No complaints, I have been very very lucky with that.

As i have mentioned earlier, YMMV. But OP got an email from BRG desk stating that OP can only get 1 award (either 2K or 20% off) and cannot have both awards for reservations in the same week/city. For you to imply that the BRG desk is wrong is incorrect information.

What do you want OP to do? Escalate the issue and tell a BRG supervisor that the BRG agent is wrong and that OP should be getting 2K points on 1 reservation and 20% off on the other?

If you have been getting both awards then good for you. But that is not policy to be getting 2 awards within the same week/city.

And what part of the BRG terms do you not understand? Multiple BRG claims in the same week/city MAY be treated as one stay, the BRG desk that processed the claim treated OPs claims as 1 stay. Can OP now go back to BRG desk and ask for a review to get the 2nd BRG award? Nope

Last edited by supatight80; Apr 1, 2017 at 7:16 pm
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Old Apr 2, 2017, 3:02 am
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Originally Posted by supatight80
As i have mentioned earlier, YMMV. But OP got an email from BRG desk stating that OP can only get 1 award (either 2K or 20% off) and cannot have both awards for reservations in the same week/city. For you to imply that the BRG desk is wrong is incorrect information.

What do you want OP to do? Escalate the issue and tell a BRG supervisor that the BRG agent is wrong and that OP should be getting 2K points on 1 reservation and 20% off on the other?

If you have been getting both awards then good for you. But that is not policy to be getting 2 awards within the same week/city.

And what part of the BRG terms do you not understand? Multiple BRG claims in the same week/city MAY be treated as one stay, the BRG desk that processed the claim treated OPs claims as 1 stay. Can OP now go back to BRG desk and ask for a review to get the 2nd BRG award? Nope
To escalate the issue most likely does not help him retroactively but what I mean is that he/she should in the future continue claiming all same week/city rewards with one 2000 points and all others asking 20% redemption.
I do understand all parts of BRG terms and moreover it always depends who is handling your claims. MAY means it might be or might not be, that is the point.
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Old Apr 2, 2017, 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by noeatbutgo
Never heard about this rule (see the next paragraph). As mentioned, I am trying to brg multiple hotels in Bangkok next week, one property per night to maximise QS credits. So far three stays have been approved but... for my fourth claim I could not get the 20% reward with below comment:


While I was reviewing your claim, I noticed that you have multiple approved Best Rate Guarantee reservations at several different Starwood-branded hotels in Bangkok. Please, note that you will only receive one Best Rate Guarantee reward for a maximum of three rooms during a seven day period, when staying in the same city or at the same hotel. Since you have reached the maximum number of approved rooms for our 20% off Best Rate Guarantee reward, you will only receive the approved rate and will not receive an additional 20% off this rate. I apologize for any frustration this may cause.

Is this agent correct again this time?

​​​​​​​Thanks
I found some agents are just interpret the rules based on their understanding and many time they are wrong.

I submitted a brg and got rejected becuase the agent cannot find the rate. I guess he cannot find the exact rate that I mentioned. I replied back and asked what rate he saw as I still see the rate that far cheaper from the ota.

The second agent reviewed and approved the brg.

I also noticed the response now is very alow. Always more than 24h
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Old Apr 3, 2017, 4:30 pm
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Claimed made on April 1st, 2017

Hotel Name: The Laguna, a Luxury Collection Resort & Spa, Nusa Dua, Bali
Arrival Date: 09-01-2017
Departure Date: 09-03-2017
Number of Rooms: 2
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: Deluxe garden view, non-smoking + includes breakfast
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: 2,170,143.47 IDR
Company Room Provider: www.misteraladin.com/
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate: 2,050,179.34 IDR
Actual confirmed rate: 1,640,143.47 IDR per room, per night, plus tax and service charge
Comments: Asked for extra 20% off. Took ~24 hours to approve

Last edited by ryukus; Apr 3, 2017 at 4:31 pm Reason: add : includes breakfast
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 1:06 pm
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Hotel Name: W San Francisco
Arrival Date: 10-06-2017
Departure Date: 10-08-2017
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 1
Room Type: Wonderful room
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: $284,05 per night (+ tax)
Company Room Provider: Other Company
Other Company Room Provider: xxx
Competing rate: €268,50 per night (a/i)
Comments: I chose 20% off, so my rate is $196,50 per night + tax. The claim was initially rejected because I selected the lowest rate, which was a higher category of room, despite the fact that Wonderful rooms had inventory. Apparently, I was supposed to annotate this in my claim. Quick call to the BRG team and it was re-processed.
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 11:24 pm
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Originally Posted by ryukus
Claimed made on April 1st, 2017

Hotel Name: The Laguna, a Luxury Collection Resort & Spa, Nusa Dua, Bali
Arrival Date: 09-01-2017
Departure Date: 09-03-2017
Number of Rooms: 2
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: Deluxe garden view, non-smoking + includes breakfast
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: 2,170,143.47 IDR
Company Room Provider: www.misteraladin.com/
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate: 2,050,179.34 IDR
Actual confirmed rate: 1,640,143.47 IDR per room, per night, plus tax and service charge
Comments: Asked for extra 20% off. Took ~24 hours to approve
May i ask if this site shows up on any hotel aggregators? Good find!
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 6:40 am
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Hotel Name: W Amsterdam
Arrival Date: 2017-03-30
Departure Date: 2017-04-02
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: Wonderful Exchange
Competing rate: €308 per night inc. breakfast and taxes + city tax
Comments: 20% off
Final rate: €246.66 per night inc. breakfast and taxes + city tax
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Old Apr 6, 2017, 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by Jaenks
To escalate the issue most likely does not help him retroactively but what I mean is that he/she should in the future continue claiming all same week/city rewards with one 2000 points and all others asking 20% redemption.
I do understand all parts of BRG terms and moreover it always depends who is handling your claims. MAY means it might be or might not be, that is the point.
I recently had my first enforcement of the 7-day rule in the same city, for the first time in hundreds of BRGs. (as both of the hotels didn't credit my 2000 points properly I had to request them from the BRG team)

SPG and the BRG team have been so good to me it seems churlish to escalate the issue or ask for special treatment. The rules are the rules...
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Old Apr 6, 2017, 12:02 pm
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Le Meridien Saigon

Hotel Name: Le Meridien Saigon
Arrival Date: April 7, 2017
Departure Date: April 11, 2017
Room Type: Premier classic river view, one guest, including breakfast
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: VND 3,752,500
Competing rate: USD 123.65 from getaroom.com
Actual confirmed rate: 2,841,479.46 VND (3,551,849.33 VND less 20%) plus VAT and service charge, including breakfast
BRG award: 20% off

Claim was processed within 12 hours of submitting
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Old Apr 8, 2017, 4:49 pm
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Just had a BRG claim that was approved, but apparently I made a mistake of booking the original room as 1 adult, instead of 2. (StR Singapore)

Would I run into problems at the property if 2 of us show up? Plat breakfast, etc..

I've never made this mistake before so I'm not sure if I need to make another reservation with 2 guests or I can just stick with 1.
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Old Apr 8, 2017, 9:22 pm
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my last 5 brg stays have all posted incorrectly....i have either received points against only $1 or for only the food & beverage portion of the stay....my last stay did not even give me a stay or night credit....i've had to get my ambassador to correct each one of these stays....has anyone else experienced this recently or have i just been unlucky with these last few stays????
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Old Apr 8, 2017, 9:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Keyser
my last 5 brg stays have all posted incorrectly....i have either received points against only $1 or for only the food & beverage portion of the stay....my last stay did not even give me a stay or night credit....i've had to get my ambassador to correct each one of these stays....has anyone else experienced this recently or have i just been unlucky with these last few stays????
same hotel? I have noticed personally when I select 2000 pts for BRG, it never gets posted correctly with the stay anymore. I have had to follow up with BRG team each and everytime. Diff hotels for me so i'm thinking it could be a BRG system issue?
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Old Apr 8, 2017, 9:33 pm
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same hotel? I have noticed personally when I select 2000 pts for BRG, it never gets posted correctly with the stay anymore. I have had to follow up with BRG team each and everytime. Diff hotels for me so i'm thinking it could be a BRG system issue?
5 different hotels & a combination of 20% off & 2k points for these 5 stays....all have posted incorrectly....
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Old Apr 8, 2017, 10:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Keyser
my last 5 brg stays have all posted incorrectly....i have either received points against only $1 or for only the food & beverage portion of the stay....my last stay did not even give me a stay or night credit....i've had to get my ambassador to correct each one of these stays....has anyone else experienced this recently or have i just been unlucky with these last few stays????
Were you only _charged_ for $1/night? I've only done a handful of BRGs, but it seems like on most of them I was only charged $1/night even though I made a point of mentioning the BRG rate and showing the email at check-in and at check-out and being assured "the rate will be corrected when it posts" but that doesn't happen. It also seems semi-random whether the stay posts correctly for night/stay credit.
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Old Apr 8, 2017, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Keyser
my last 5 brg stays have all posted incorrectly....i have either received points against only $1 or for only the food & beverage portion of the stay....my last stay did not even give me a stay or night credit....i've had to get my ambassador to correct each one of these stays....has anyone else experienced this recently or have i just been unlucky with these last few stays????
Same here. The hotel, W Amsterdam, sent another invoice a week later with the correct amount but I was double charged city tax and 1€ a night accommodation. Still waiting reply from their general manager.
Who's crediting my missing points from my stay? Hotel, brg or regular cs?
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