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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 7:21 pm
  #346  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Originally Posted by Epicura
Datapoint: had a claim approved today within less than 70 minutes. English competing site, processed by the great Heidi P. There's still hope guys
....and yes....the Great One was the one that responded back to me and all is good!! ^
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 3:13 am
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I have a question regarding publicly available coupon codes? Many OTA run campaigns like a spring sales etc . Spend above 500 USD and get 50 USD off enter voucher code /coupon code XYZ123 etc.. These are marketed through banners etc on the webpage, and can usually be found under some sort of current deals section on the OTA in question.
Can you apply these when you apply for an BRG and if so what the best strategy to point this out to the reviewing agent?
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by X-ON
I have a question regarding publicly available coupon codes? Many OTA run campaigns like a spring sales etc . Spend above 500 USD and get 50 USD off enter voucher code /coupon code XYZ123 etc.. These are marketed through banners etc on the webpage, and can usually be found under some sort of current deals section on the OTA in question.
Can you apply these when you apply for an BRG and if so what the best strategy to point this out to the reviewing agent?
Coupon codes don't apply to BRGs
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 5:08 am
  #349  
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Originally Posted by Bravada04
Ugh.........I was on a good roll with my BRG's not going through the India group.......Lo & behold today I received my email back saying it is not approved and it makes no sense when I read it. I have been watching the site like a hawk and nothing has changed!! Now I have to D%$ around and send back with a screen shot etc., and hopefully it will work. I thought I would try that rather than cancelling my reservation and re-booking.
Originally Posted by Jaenks
Exactly same to me. Canceled the booking(after reply with screen shots and denial again),made a new one and new BRG claim. Indian team is a disaster, a fact. Average reply time during last weeks was more than 48 hrs.
I submitted a couple of claims: one auf Deutsch and one English. The German claim is still languishing in queue, whilst the English one garnered a response from the famed Indian team. Like many of you, I'm baffled by how/why they operate. I submitted my claim below, and it was approved + 2 cents. I go on to the competitor's website and it's still the same price I've found it at. I'm not going to cry over two cents, but it's further evidence that these guys do whatever they want.
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 5:12 am
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Hotel Name: Aloft BWI
Arrival Date: 04-06-2017
Departure Date: 04-07-2017
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 1
Room Type: Aloft room
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: $113,- (+ tax)
Company Room Provider: Other Company
Other Company Room Provider: xxx
Competing rate: $88,09 (+ tax)
Comments: The claim was approved for $88,11. I chose points because this T1 promo is total cwap.
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by OriginalName
Coupon codes don't apply to BRGs
This even if the code is publically available on the 3rd party website and anyone purchasing a hotel room on the website in question is entitled to whatever discount that this code is providing?

The only difference between using the code and the website actually applying a discount through their booking engine is that you as a customer has to enter a code in a box and click apply.

The only reason why OTA use these codes in lieu of directly adjusted the offered rates is that it from technology point of view is easier to administrate ... and I guess it has some benefits from a promotional point of view as well ... You as customer see the discount...

I not questioning that the rule exits ... it just seems that these type codes should be allowed in a Best Rate Guarantee program since the difference between a discount applied on the rate before the final payment site or at the final payment site is just semantics ... but maybe I am missing something crucial
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 6:33 am
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Originally Posted by jasperm
Hotel Name: Sheraton Tribeca New York
Dates: 9 nights in June-July
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 1
Room Type: traditional room
Starwood Web Site Rate: $153.82 + taxes per night
Competing Website: Booking.com
Competing rate: $145.67 + taxes per night
BRG Reward: 20% off
Actual confirmed rate: $116.54 + taxes per night
Mind sharing when in June this is for? I've been struggling to get good BRGs for NY in June - probably because my dates are earlier (6-10th or thereabouts).
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 10:37 am
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Just tried a BRG, and was disappointed to find out that it was rejected because I booked a room for 3 people, and Priceline's prices are specified for 2 people / room in their ToS.

Feels like a pretty questionable way to get out of the BRG, given that there's no way to change the number of occupants per room in priceline...
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 1:30 pm
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Just tried a BRG, and was disappointed to find out that it was rejected because I booked a room for 3 people, and Priceline's prices are specified for 2 people / room in their ToS.
It should be pretty clear that the number of guests has to match...
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 6:27 pm
  #355  
 
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I submitted a BRG earlier today around 12:30pm Eastern. It's now approximately 8:30pm.

When I was Platinum 100, my requests were responded to within 2 hours...

Are they that busy? Or am I now a pleb because I'm only Plat50?

What's the general turnaround time for a response nowadays?
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by CanRulez
I submitted a BRG earlier today around 12:30pm Eastern. It's now approximately 8:30pm.

When I was Platinum 100, my requests were responded to within 2 hours...

Are they that busy? Or am I now a pleb because I'm only Plat50?

What's the general turnaround time for a response nowadays?
Nothing to do with your status: until about 1 month ago turnaround was around 2h, but lately it's been at least 24h and sometimes up to 48h.
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 7:11 pm
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Originally Posted by RafKa
Nothing to do with your status: until about 1 month ago turnaround was around 2h, but lately it's been at least 24h and sometimes up to 48h.
That's brutal. Is that so they can deny your claim once your competing link jumps up in price? Should I capture a screen shot?
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 11:41 pm
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Mixed rewards

Hi

I have some problems re BRGs for my upcoming stay in Bangkok.

1st night Aloft (multiple rooms)
2nd night Westin
3rd night Four Points
4th nigbt Aloft (multiple rooms)

My first claim was for the first room at the Aloft- it was approved with 2000 points.

I made the second claim for the Four Points (I chose 20%) but the agent commented like following:



While I was reviewing your claim, I noticed that you have multiple approved Best Rate Guarantee claims in Bangkok. Please, note that you will only receive on Best Rate Guarantee reward within a seven day period when staying in the same city or at the same hotel. Since the first claim that we received and is still linked with an active reservation was for Starpoints, I have processed your claim for Starpoints.


I know that I only can get 2000points for one time per week. So except my first night at the Aloft, I would like to get 20% discount but this agent seems to think "you only get 2000points as you chose this so no more 20% discount for further stays in this week".

Any light?
Thanks
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 11:45 pm
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Old Mar 31, 2017, 1:12 am
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Originally Posted by horizontal
Mind sharing when in June this is for? I've been struggling to get good BRGs for NY in June - probably because my dates are earlier (6-10th or thereabouts).
It's for the last week of June.
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