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Old Dec 4, 2012, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
I've offered to look into these about a half a dozen times already. No problem looking into yours as well. I just need the reservation confirmation number sent to the email address below or via PM.

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Yes, William, you have offered time and time again, and thanks for that. Following many posts on FT, the same questions resurface time and time again. Either the search function is too difficult to use within a thread, or people are just not interested in reading what's happened before the question entered their mind. I'd suggest updating a post #1 with a FAQ, but that would probably go ignored too.

Thank you for being there to help with these issues. Have you seen any common pattern as to why the SNAs don't clear? As I recall reading in the past it is suppose to be an automatic system, but is the data being loaded wrong? Any idea when we might see this fixed on a global basis?
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
...Have you seen any common pattern as to why the SNAs don't clear? As I recall reading in the past it is suppose to be an automatic system, but is the data being loaded wrong? Any idea when we might see this fixed on a global basis?
My apologies, but there is nothing so consistent about what has gone wrong in the less than a dozen cases I've personally witnessed. One is this, another that, etc. So, it is not so much a global issue and really not as prevalent an issue as this thread might leave one to believe.

That being said, I'm more than willing to continue helping folks where I can.

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Old Dec 4, 2012, 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by whimike
It sure would be nice if 10 suite nights were given out for every 50 nights stayed.

Staying 100+ nights a year, 10 SNA go by very quickly. In my experience, getting suite upgrades without the SNA appears to be a lot more difficult now, my own percentage has dropped significantly since March. With SNA I am at 50% success, without I am under 20%.

If somebody stays as average of 50 nights a year, the SNA enables them to upgrade 20% of their nights up to 5 days in advance. Those members that stay 100 or even 150 nights, their percentage is only 7% - 10% due to the SNA being limited to 10 per year.

One would think SPG would want to reward those staying 100 and 150 nights a year with an ability to upgrade the same percentage of nights that a 50-night/year member has.
SPG has designed different benefits for different levels. Are you suggesting they do away with the other levels? Would you be willing to get the extra SNAs in lieu of the extra points and ambassador? Maybe they should be optional, choose 10 SNAs or Ambassador at 100 nights.

Having a menu of benefits will allow the member to decide what is important and what works for them. Some have questioned the value of having an assigned ambassador so this could give them an incentive to push on and not switch programs.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
Yes, William, you have offered time and time again, and thanks for that. Following many posts on FT, the same questions resurface time and time again. Either the search function is too difficult to use within a thread, or people are just not interested in reading what's happened before the question entered their mind. I'd suggest updating a post #1 with a FAQ, but that would probably go ignored too.

Thank you for being there to help with these issues. Have you seen any common pattern as to why the SNAs don't clear? As I recall reading in the past it is suppose to be an automatic system, but is the data being loaded wrong? Any idea when we might see this fixed on a global basis?
I have to ask - what do you think a search would uncover in this case, when as William said with the cases he has seen where SNAs didn't clear properly there was not a clear pattern on his end? It would seem to me like the answer you rather smugly suggest should be searched for does not in fact exist.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by mattsteg
I have to ask - what do you think a search would uncover in this case, when as William said with the cases he has seen where SNAs didn't clear properly there was not a clear pattern on his end? It would seem to me like the answer you rather smugly suggest should be searched for does not in fact exist.
Granted there may be several usable keywords that could result in a tough search, but the general situation is SNA not clearing or the such... Just reading this thread will reveal several post. We don't know the reason they haven't cleared, but William has repeatedly offered to help track down the problem and hopefully get them cleared.

A FAQ could do wonders here.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 3:29 am
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Originally Posted by RogerD408:19797702
Originally Posted by mattsteg
I have to ask - what do you think a search would uncover in this case, when as William said with the cases he has seen where SNAs didn't clear properly there was not a clear pattern on his end? It would seem to me like the answer you rather smugly suggest should be searched for does not in fact exist.
Granted there may be several usable keywords that could result in a tough search, but the general situation is SNA not clearing or the such... Just reading this thread will reveal several post. We don't know the reason they haven't cleared, but William has repeatedly offered to help track down the problem and hopefully get them cleared.

A FAQ could do wonders here.
Once again I have to ask - what would this FAQ include, and how would it help in this situation? For that matter, what novel discussion would you expect in a 63 page thread covering a single benefit? Would you propose that one person in all time is authorized to ask about a SNA not clearing, and that all who follow should search for whatever answer was provided and never broach the topic again? That is absolutely ridiculous.

You can't even cite a single piece of useful information that would have precluded posting on this matter - not even one. However you insist on acting like a busybody and passing judgement on what others choose to contribute.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by mattsteg
Once again I have to ask - what would this FAQ include, and how would it help in this situation? For that matter, what novel discussion would you expect in a 63 page thread covering a single benefit? Would you propose that one person in all time is authorized to ask about a SNA not clearing, and that all who follow should search for whatever answer was provided and never broach the topic again? That is absolutely ridiculous.

You can't even cite a single piece of useful information that would have precluded posting on this matter - not even one. However you insist on acting like a busybody and passing judgement on what others choose to contribute.
Something simple like:

Q: I requested SNA for a stay, I'm four days before my stay but it hasn't been approved or denied. The property is still showing my suite type available.
A: If you find the property still showing selected suites available and you are within five days of your stay, please send an email to [email protected] with your confirmation number and details of your stay so we can look into it.
I've read the thread and have seen the posts and don't care to do the search for you. Repeated posts (as noted by William) have appeared and do not add any value to this thread. Especially posts that do not mention the property where others may be able to relay their personal experience.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
Something simple like:

Q: I requested SNA for a stay, I'm four days before my stay but it hasn't been approved or denied. The property is still showing my suite type available.
A: If you find the property still showing selected suites available and you are within five days of your stay, please send an email to [email protected] with your confirmation number and details of your stay so we can look into it.
I've read the thread and have seen the posts and don't care to do the search for you. Repeated posts (as noted by William) have appeared and do not add any value to this thread. Especially posts that do not mention the property where others may be able to relay their personal experience.
You might explore what the possibilities are with our team of moderators to make our willingness to help better known. I certainly don't mind investigating these things, but I have a lot better chance to turn it around the longer I'm given to work on it. I have a pretty bad batting average for the ones I get two days out from arrival and a very good one for those that are sent to my attention five to four days out.

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Old Dec 5, 2012, 5:45 pm
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You might explore what the possibilities are with our team of moderators to make our willingness to help better known.
Maybe add something in the first two posts in the thread?
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 6:02 pm
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Originally Posted by yosithezet
Maybe add something in the first two posts in the thread?
Feel free to do in Thyetus' absence, if you think that will help.

Otherwise, he can do so when he gets in.

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Old Dec 6, 2012, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by yosithezet
Maybe add something in the first two posts in the thread?
Updated on post 2.

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Old Dec 6, 2012, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker II
Updated on post 2.

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Thank you Thyetus (and William). That will give us a common spot to refer posters with this repeated request. Or maybe now that we do, the problem will fade away.
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 2:00 pm
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Thanks for the above posts. I have a stay at the Westin Paris coming up, and my suite hasn't been confirmed, although plenty of suites are available. I haven't received any sort of email regarding the suite night search, unlike the past.

I called up the Platinum Concierge, and they explained to me that the sweep happens starting at 5 days out and when it does, I'll be confirmed. At that point, I got into a circular discussion over the fact that we were within the 5 day mark, yet the agent insisted that the sweep hadn't occurred yet. My head hurts.

Email to SPG Lurker sent!

Edited to add: As a followup, thinking it was a technical glitch in the system, I cancelled my SNA request, and re-requested it. At the T-4 check-in time, the upgrade was confirmed. This is the first time I've had a problem with a SNA, and the lack of transparency has me a little concerned regarding future requests. But let's hope it's just a one time thing.

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Old Dec 9, 2012, 11:34 pm
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Thanks for the above posts. I have a stay at the Westin Paris coming up, and my suite hasn't been confirmed, although plenty of suites are available. I haven't received any sort of email regarding the suite night search, unlike the past.

I called up the Platinum Concierge, and they explained to me that the sweep happens starting at 5 days out and when it does, I'll be confirmed. At that point, I got into a circular discussion over the fact that we were within the 5 day mark, yet the agent insisted that the sweep hadn't occurred yet. My head hurts.

Email to SPG Lurker sent!

Edited to add: As a followup, thinking it was a technical glitch in the system, I cancelled my SNA request, and re-requested it. At the T-4 check-in time, the upgrade was confirmed. This is the first time I've had a problem with a SNA, and the lack of transparency has me a little concerned regarding future requests. But let's hope it's just a one time thing.
Sorry we did not manage to respond to you much earlier as both of us aren't around over the weekend.

Still, glad that this work out in the end though cancelling your original SNA request and requesting it again might place you back at the end of the queue(if there is one).

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Old Dec 9, 2012, 11:52 pm
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Apologies if this has been asked and answered.
Due to some last minute trip cancellations I may not make Plat next year but have 6 Suite Night upgrades that expire at the end of 2013. If I drop to Gold next year will I still be able to use the Suite Night awards during 2013?
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