SQ or LH in First Class ?
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SQ or LH from FRA to JFK?
hello,
I have just checked with the ana tool availability and I got one F-class seat either on LH *** (2 flights are aivalable) or on SQ 26 from FRA-JFK. So which one should I choose? When I fly LH I can use their F-terminal and all F-class service stuff. But which F-class is better regarding service, food, seat, ...
thx
I have just checked with the ana tool availability and I got one F-class seat either on LH *** (2 flights are aivalable) or on SQ 26 from FRA-JFK. So which one should I choose? When I fly LH I can use their F-terminal and all F-class service stuff. But which F-class is better regarding service, food, seat, ...

thx
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Another FA, I didn't see her before, knew my name and seat when I ordered some snack in the galley.
As long as they have the new C seats I will trade any other airline F against SQ new C. Sorry LX, TG and LH, but no chance here.
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I second the advice to fly LH out of FRA and SQ out of Sin if u can. SQ is far better in general than LH, but I like to try differnet flights and airlines, especially out of their home airport. just my 3 cents!!
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I second the idea of flying LH out for FRA. However, the only "better" thing on SQ is the seat. Food and staff is much about personal like or dislike. I simply prefer European style better than Asian touch. However, my first priority is to sleep on board. For that I would choose SQ.
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After countless flights in LH F i deceided to try SQ C. SIN-SYD-SIN on the A380 and then SIN-FRA on the 777.
I was extremely positively surprised about SQ C. Yes, it is only C. Comparing the two this is my experience of SQ C:
- the attention of the flight attendants is not as good and personal, but still extremely good
+ despite serving many people the food service was quicker (allows more time to sleep) than on LH F
- the food is not as good as LH F, but not by a big margin. SQ had some good asian chioces.
+for the 380: The A380 is significantly less noisy than the 747/777.
o The SQ seats are somewhat unique: The back folds down into a bed which is a little small in the shoulder area, but long enough to sleep well (i am 1.80). The surface is fairly flat and does not have the bumps of normal seats/suites.
Also the surface is parallel to the floor and not angled. I slept very well.
- Disadvantage is: you have to get out of your seat, unfold/fold everything instead of just reclining your seat and sleep.
+ The privacy is much better than in LH F, especially on the 747
So my overall opinion about the product in the air:
The new SQ C is surprisingly good. When traveling alone the additional privacy outweighs the advantages of LH F (mainly the wider seat at shoulder level).
LH still has the far better product on the ground in FRA.
I was extremely positively surprised about SQ C. Yes, it is only C. Comparing the two this is my experience of SQ C:
- the attention of the flight attendants is not as good and personal, but still extremely good
+ despite serving many people the food service was quicker (allows more time to sleep) than on LH F
- the food is not as good as LH F, but not by a big margin. SQ had some good asian chioces.
+for the 380: The A380 is significantly less noisy than the 747/777.
o The SQ seats are somewhat unique: The back folds down into a bed which is a little small in the shoulder area, but long enough to sleep well (i am 1.80). The surface is fairly flat and does not have the bumps of normal seats/suites.
Also the surface is parallel to the floor and not angled. I slept very well.
- Disadvantage is: you have to get out of your seat, unfold/fold everything instead of just reclining your seat and sleep.
+ The privacy is much better than in LH F, especially on the 747
So my overall opinion about the product in the air:
The new SQ C is surprisingly good. When traveling alone the additional privacy outweighs the advantages of LH F (mainly the wider seat at shoulder level).
LH still has the far better product on the ground in FRA.
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Save Miles and go SQ New 773 ER in C Class both ways^
http://youtube.com/watch?v=je8LBlwYJBw
You are using a lot of miles for a Cab to The aircraft and caviar
http://youtube.com/watch?v=je8LBlwYJBw
You are using a lot of miles for a Cab to The aircraft and caviar
Last edited by UncleDude; Mar 23, 2008 at 6:08 am
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LX (and even TG) F products are definitely better than SQ's new C. No doubt. F is F after all...at least on the above mentioned carriers.
I agree that SQ's new C is the best C I've flown but I still prefer F on LX and TG (haven't tried LH so far).
Of course, my favorite is still SQ's (new) F
. To the OP: I suggest following the advices of Kiwi and SanDiego1K
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Ok...variation on the OP's original question.
I'm currently booked in F on LH778, FRA>SIN. I'm connecting from SEA>FRA on an LH 330 in F.
My final destination is Bali, and I'm booked on the last flight of the day, at 7pm or so.
If I stick with this itinerary, I'll be in FRA, and thus the FCT, for 12 hours. However, if I take LH to LHR, I can catch SQ319 LHR>SIN, and arrive earlier enough to catch the 4pm flight to Bali.
Who would advise I stick to LH, the FRA FCT and a 12 hour layover, vs the extra hop to LHR, (4 hours in the VS clubhouse) SQ319 to SIN, and then MAYBE catching the 4pm SIN>DPS flight (if I don't, I wait 5 hours in SIN - in the C lounge).
How would weigh this choice?
I'm currently booked in F on LH778, FRA>SIN. I'm connecting from SEA>FRA on an LH 330 in F.
My final destination is Bali, and I'm booked on the last flight of the day, at 7pm or so.
If I stick with this itinerary, I'll be in FRA, and thus the FCT, for 12 hours. However, if I take LH to LHR, I can catch SQ319 LHR>SIN, and arrive earlier enough to catch the 4pm flight to Bali.
Who would advise I stick to LH, the FRA FCT and a 12 hour layover, vs the extra hop to LHR, (4 hours in the VS clubhouse) SQ319 to SIN, and then MAYBE catching the 4pm SIN>DPS flight (if I don't, I wait 5 hours in SIN - in the C lounge).
How would weigh this choice?
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FRA JFK in SQ F
I have never had the opportunity to take SQ in First, but mny times on LH. So I booked SQ 026/SQ025 F-Class next for month. Of course, I was intrigued by the new F-Class. But AFAIK this route is still without the suites, or am I in error here?
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Having been twice to the FCT in the past couple of weeks, it is a nice lounge, but I would have to say that SQ F in the air beats LH F + FCT on the ground. Even though a Porsche to the plane is cool. 
Only downside to the FRA-LHR-SIN plan above is the extra flight, meaning an extra chance for a missed connection.
Do note (and see my current trip report on IAD-FRA-SIN-DPS, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=806069) that I personally would find 12 hours way too long in the First Class Terminal but as an arriving LH F passenger you're entitled to a day room at the Kempinski Hotel free of charge. Consider heading over there for your sleep/shower and then heading back to the FCT if you decide not to go for the extra flight and SQ F.

Only downside to the FRA-LHR-SIN plan above is the extra flight, meaning an extra chance for a missed connection.
Do note (and see my current trip report on IAD-FRA-SIN-DPS, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=806069) that I personally would find 12 hours way too long in the First Class Terminal but as an arriving LH F passenger you're entitled to a day room at the Kempinski Hotel free of charge. Consider heading over there for your sleep/shower and then heading back to the FCT if you decide not to go for the extra flight and SQ F.
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Finding award F seats on SQ with the new F is close to impossible. It has been done, but not often (other than using SQ miles and paying the premium).
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