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witthuus Mar 13, 2008 4:56 pm

SQ or LH in First Class ?
 
Just redeemed some miles and booked FRA-SIN in First.

Both segments are on LH. Wonder if I should search for available First on SQ. Which is the better First Class ? LH or SQ ?

Thanks for your replies ^

ACflyerDE Mar 13, 2008 5:56 pm

SQ F beats LH F any day, be it in service, seat comfort/space or entertainment system. It will be difficult though to find a reward seat in F on SQ but YMMV.

Kiwi Flyer Mar 13, 2008 6:00 pm

SQ is better in the air, LH better on the ground in FRA (the amazing FCT+car transfer to your a/c or just-as-nice FCL without the car transfer are off-limits when flying SQ). Why not do FRA-SIN on LH and SIN-FRA on SQ to compare (and get the best of everything)?

lhrpete Mar 14, 2008 3:28 pm

In the air, SQ wins by a long way. On the ground at FRA LH is best but there it ends. In SIN, there's little to choose on the ground. The food comes from the same kitchens for both flights, that's a matter of taste but I prefer SQ every time. For consistency and service SQ - LH depends too much on the crew you get on the day, can be great and can be dreadful.

SanDiego1K Mar 14, 2008 4:18 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 9406583)
SQ is better in the air, LH better on the ground in FRA (the amazing FCT+car transfer to your a/c or just-as-nice FCL without the car transfer are off-limits when flying SQ). Why not do FRA-SIN on LH and SIN-FRA on SQ to compare (and get the best of everything)?

Sound advice. The First Class Terminal at Frankfurt is something very special that really should be experienced. It is far superior to the SQ F lounge in Singapore. However, SQ offers suites, whereas LH offers 2 x 2 seating on the 747. You want both the LH on ground experience and the SQ in air experience - so chosing the carrier flying from its home airport is the way to go.

lucky9876coins Mar 14, 2008 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 9411290)
Sound advice. The First Class Terminal at Frankfurt is something very special that really should be experienced. It is far superior to the SQ F lounge in Singapore. However, SQ offers suites, whereas LH offers 2 x 2 seating on the 747. You want both the LH on ground experience and the SQ in air experience - so chosing the carrier flying from its home airport is the way to go.

Exactly correct, best advice out there along with Kiwi Flyer!^

FlyerTalker7654 Mar 15, 2008 1:00 pm

My mate and me flew first with LH from EZE to LHR via FRA. Thought it was a total waste of miles. First with them was so over rated. The food takes ages to come, generally a very slow service. I thought that TAP's business class was better flying from LHR-RIO via LIS.

Flew 2 years ago business with Singapore and that was fantastic, so I would think that first would be even better. Do yourself a favour and cancel that First ticket with them and try and get onto SIN...honestly...really not worth it!

witthuus Mar 15, 2008 5:00 pm

Tried to get 2 First on SQ - nothing available. I guess I have to stick with LH. SQ in Business would be available. But SQ C is not better than LH F, is it ?

Guy Betsy Mar 15, 2008 8:07 pm

Have you considered say, TG in F? Or even LX?

SanDiego1K Mar 15, 2008 10:38 pm


Originally Posted by witthuus (Post 9415485)
But SQ C is not better than LH F, is it ?

No, it is not.

SQ C
  • flat seat at an angle, 2 x 2 seating
  • adequate food
  • many business class passengers and appropriate FA attentiveness

LH F
  • level flat seat, 2 x 2 seating
  • good food
  • few F class passengers (16 on 747) and greater FA attentiveness

Rejuvenated Mar 15, 2008 11:23 pm

I've never flown LH F but I don't see how it can be superior to SQ's. We recently took SQ F CDG-SIN (with the new seat on the 77W) on our recent RTW trip which was fabulous in almost all aspects and IMO it is overall still the best F product out there when the factors of seating, service, IFE, and catering are blended and summed in together.

RTW4 Mar 16, 2008 1:33 am

This week I will be flying LH from FRA to LAX then SQ from LAX to NRT and NH from NRT to JFK all in first. Will report as to my opinions of these three major STAR players...

berlinflyer Mar 16, 2008 1:40 am


Originally Posted by SgtRyan (Post 9414646)
My mate and me flew first with LH from EZE to LHR via FRA. Thought it was a total waste of miles. First with them was so over rated. The food takes ages to come, generally a very slow service. I thought that TAP's business class was better flying from LHR-RIO via LIS.

You must be kidding me..... :rolleyes:

lhrpete Mar 16, 2008 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 9416560)
No, it is not.

SQ C
  • flat seat at an angle, 2 x 2 seating
  • adequate food
  • many business class passengers and appropriate FA attentiveness

LH F
  • level flat seat, 2 x 2 seating
  • good food
  • few F class passengers (16 on 747) and greater FA attentiveness

I would alter this a bit

SQ C
Contoured lie flat at an angle seat
Good Food
Good attention from a highly consistent and well trained crew

LH F
Old fashioned level flat seat, no contouring possible
Adequate food, poor for F
Attention depends on the mood of the crew on the day, might be good, might be awful.

Axey Mar 16, 2008 12:49 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 9416560)
No, it is not.

SQ C
  • flat seat at an angle, 2 x 2 seating
  • adequate food
  • many business class passengers and appropriate FA attentiveness

LH F
  • level flat seat, 2 x 2 seating
  • good food
  • few F class passengers (16 on 747) and greater FA attentiveness

SQ's new C (which is available on the 10pm FRA-SIN) is definitely competitive with LH F, IMHO:
  • Fully flat bed
  • Private enclosed seat
  • Good food
  • 15" IFE screen


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