SW 1380 one passenger dead: Uncontained engine failure and emergency landing at PHL
Apr 17, 2018, 5:27 pm
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IIRC I was living in Dallas at the time (home of WN) and the reports indicated systemic delay of inspections and winks from FAA.
Apr 17, 2018, 5:48 pm
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One of the cockpit windows blew out and the captain was partially sucked out. The copilot and crew members literally had to hold on to his legs.
Apr 17, 2018, 5:52 pm
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Apr 17, 2018, 5:57 pm
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Apr 17, 2018, 5:59 pm
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Two uncontained engine failures within 2 years, same airline, same plane type, same engine type should get the attention of the NTSB.
Sadly, and with no intended disrespect, I think -- statistically -- Southwest was overdue for a fatal accident.
Kudos to the crew for the safe landing.
Sadly, and with no intended disrespect, I think -- statistically -- Southwest was overdue for a fatal accident.
Kudos to the crew for the safe landing.
Apr 17, 2018, 6:04 pm
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As for being overdue on a fatal accident I always thought they were lucky that they didn't lose an aircraft during the 1990s when the rudder reversal issue resulted in the crash of two 737s before it was found and corrected.
Apr 17, 2018, 6:16 pm
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N766SW (the one that landed in Mississippi) and N772SW (the one involved in today's incident) are only numbers apart, don't know if that is a coincidence or if there is a pattern.
Apr 17, 2018, 6:19 pm
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Apr 17, 2018, 6:22 pm
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Boy, this reminds me . . .
Back in the days when I was working front desk at the Hyatt, I got a call one evening. The woman said her husband was checking in late that night, and she needed to me give him a message, emphasizing that it was very important. Something about the tone of her voice got my attention immediately. It went something like this:
"I'm a flight attendant, and I was on that plane that crashed today in Iowa. You have to let him know that I'm all right. I'm here, and I'll talk to him as soon as I can. Here's a special number he needs to call to reach me. Please make sure he gets that message."
This was United 232, the one that went cartwheeling down the runway in Sioux City in 1989, but still had 185 survivors. I hadn't seen the news all day, so I didn't know what she was talking about at the time, but I assured her we would pass on that message. Fortunately, I was the one who checked him in later on:
"Mr. Xxxx, I'm glad you're here. I have a really important message for you. Your wife called--she was on a plane that crashed in Iowa today, but she's all right. She wanted you to know that she's just fine, and she'll talk to you as soon as she can. Here's the emergency number for you to call."
I've never seen anybody turn so pale. I assured him that I was the one who personally spoke with her, and she sounded just fine. He kind of tried to make a little joke with his co-worker who was checking in with him, but it was really just at attempt to cope with the shock. The co-worker looked VERY concerned for him. But I got him checked in, and I assume they lived happily ever after.
Kind of off topic, but this WN crash gives me that same feeling. People narrowly surviving a scrape with death.
Back in the days when I was working front desk at the Hyatt, I got a call one evening. The woman said her husband was checking in late that night, and she needed to me give him a message, emphasizing that it was very important. Something about the tone of her voice got my attention immediately. It went something like this:
"I'm a flight attendant, and I was on that plane that crashed today in Iowa. You have to let him know that I'm all right. I'm here, and I'll talk to him as soon as I can. Here's a special number he needs to call to reach me. Please make sure he gets that message."
This was United 232, the one that went cartwheeling down the runway in Sioux City in 1989, but still had 185 survivors. I hadn't seen the news all day, so I didn't know what she was talking about at the time, but I assured her we would pass on that message. Fortunately, I was the one who checked him in later on:
"Mr. Xxxx, I'm glad you're here. I have a really important message for you. Your wife called--she was on a plane that crashed in Iowa today, but she's all right. She wanted you to know that she's just fine, and she'll talk to you as soon as she can. Here's the emergency number for you to call."
I've never seen anybody turn so pale. I assured him that I was the one who personally spoke with her, and she sounded just fine. He kind of tried to make a little joke with his co-worker who was checking in with him, but it was really just at attempt to cope with the shock. The co-worker looked VERY concerned for him. But I got him checked in, and I assume they lived happily ever after.
Kind of off topic, but this WN crash gives me that same feeling. People narrowly surviving a scrape with death.
Apr 17, 2018, 6:41 pm
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I heard an interview with the guy who started streaming live on FB after the explosion. He said he, like other passengers, believed they were about to die and he wanted to say good-bye to his loved ones. He had on his mask, was holding only a phone, and was in immediate fear of death - I don't have a problem with him wanting to say good-bye. It's a shame that you do.
Apr 17, 2018, 7:03 pm
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Apr 17, 2018, 7:03 pm
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Boy, this reminds me . . .
This was United 232, the one that went cartwheeling down the runway in Sioux City in 1989, but still had 185 survivors. I hadn't seen the news all day, so I didn't know what she was talking about at the time, but I assured her we would pass on that message. Fortunately, I was the one who checked him in later on:
This was United 232, the one that went cartwheeling down the runway in Sioux City in 1989, but still had 185 survivors. I hadn't seen the news all day, so I didn't know what she was talking about at the time, but I assured her we would pass on that message. Fortunately, I was the one who checked him in later on:
It is worth the read though, its also one of the best books I have ever read. I bet your flight attendant is in it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.a86903c962ef
Apr 17, 2018, 7:22 pm
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Agreed, it speaks volumes on how WN and Gary Kelly responded to this vs yesterday how Allegiant and their "CEO" responded (or lack of) to the 60 minutes report.
Apr 17, 2018, 7:35 pm
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We don't know what happened for the poor pax. People report "heart attack" when they see CPR. She may have suffered terrible injuries and gone into cardiac arrest from those, or from hypoxia when she was partially sucked out. That blown window is far behind the front of the engine; I assumed much of the high energy ejected material from an engine coming apart would fly out radially, and hit the plane at the row near the engine. This was far back. Whatever flew back there might have killed the pax by direct impact to the going through the window/fuselage. I suspect the rest of the damage to the plane will tell the tale. If she was impacted by debris, for all we know, it damaged her seatbelt.