SW 1380 one passenger dead: Uncontained engine failure and emergency landing at PHL
Apr 18, 2018, 7:15 am
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The 2016 incident where investigators found signs of metal fatigue prompted the FAA to propose ultrasonic inspections of similar fan blades and their replacement should they fail the test.Sumwalt said the NTSB will review whether the engines involved in Tuesday’s incident might have been subject to the directive, which is not yet finalized. [Reuters]
They didn't want to appear nagging?
Engine manufacturer CFM International recommended it be done "as soon as possible" nearly a year ago.
Apr 18, 2018, 7:28 am
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Why does everything in life have to be filmed? Why should the world know about my suffering or yours? It is narcissistic to think anyone cares about you when they die.
Apr 18, 2018, 7:29 am
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I seriously doubt Southwest would put a plane involved in its first onboard fatality back in service.
Apr 18, 2018, 7:30 am
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Apr 18, 2018, 7:32 am
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Does a report of a T-bone accident on the freeway make you not want to sit in a car passenger seat? Does a report of a tree falling on the master bedroom of a house make you not want to go to bed this evening?
We're talking reverse lottery here - one chance in billions, probably, that this grisly incident occurred.
The most I can logically deduce from this incident is that maybe, maybe, one should avoid window seats in this specific model of 737 on this specific airline in a specific set of rows just behind the engines. And that's still emotion ruling over logic, IMO.
We're talking reverse lottery here - one chance in billions, probably, that this grisly incident occurred.
The most I can logically deduce from this incident is that maybe, maybe, one should avoid window seats in this specific model of 737 on this specific airline in a specific set of rows just behind the engines. And that's still emotion ruling over logic, IMO.
Apr 18, 2018, 7:51 am
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Does a report of a T-bone accident on the freeway make you not want to sit in a car passenger seat? Does a report of a tree falling on the master bedroom of a house make you not want to go to bed this evening?
We're talking reverse lottery here - one chance in billions, probably, that this grisly incident occurred.
The most I can logically deduce from this incident is that maybe, maybe, one should avoid window seats in this specific model of 737 on this specific airline in a specific set of rows just behind the engines. And that's still emotion ruling over logic, IMO.
We're talking reverse lottery here - one chance in billions, probably, that this grisly incident occurred.
The most I can logically deduce from this incident is that maybe, maybe, one should avoid window seats in this specific model of 737 on this specific airline in a specific set of rows just behind the engines. And that's still emotion ruling over logic, IMO.
Apr 18, 2018, 7:58 am
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So if I'm going down in a plane I shouldn't expect my family and loved ones to care, or possibly receive a goodbye message from me? Geez i'm sorry your family and loved ones don't care about you.
Apr 18, 2018, 8:05 am
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737s don't have that capability. If the need to land isn't ....ing urgent, then you'll just circle the airport for a while to avoid undue stress on the landing gear, but if you need to get down right the .... now, you don't worry about it--get the plane on the ground, worry about the plane's future airworthiness later.
Apr 18, 2018, 8:07 am
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Once upon a time, not so long ago, your family would have received a telegram or letter followed up later by a knock on the door.
Apr 18, 2018, 8:18 am
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737s don't have that capability. If the need to land isn't ....ing urgent, then you'll just circle the airport for a while to avoid undue stress on the landing gear, but if you need to get down right the .... now, you don't worry about it--get the plane on the ground, worry about the plane's future airworthiness later.
I wonder why some mfr's offer dumping (Airbus?) vs those that don't.
Apr 18, 2018, 8:19 am
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That said, out of curiosity, what are the g-forces of severe turbulence vs. a decompression? And for how long are those forces sustained?
The other question is what was the timeframe between the initial engine blowout and the shrapnel piercing the aircraft? I thought I read somewhere there was another initial hole the crew was trying to deal with first. If that's the case, I would certainly hope that all pax would have buckled up, but per the Q's above, I don't know if that would have even helped.
Apr 18, 2018, 8:21 am
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It's bizarre to think that his family and friends wouldn't want a chance to say good-bye before he died. He was on his own FB page to people he knows, not CNN.
Apr 18, 2018, 8:38 am
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After NTSB releases the aircraft the aircraft back to SWA, it'll get an engine change, plus repairs to damage, before eventually going back in service. All SWA aircraft were were getting new registration numbers as they came due for re-paint jobs (getting away from the SW and WN suffixes), so this one will also get a different number.
Apr 18, 2018, 8:40 am
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