Rapid Rewards 2.0 begins March 1, 2011
#212
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: A+ Elite, Hilton Gold, OA and hotels, member
Posts: 256
TQP question
Does anybody know if the bonus points earned by A-List and A-List+ are also TQP. IE, if you're A-List Plus, do you need to do the equivalent of 35,000 points to re-up (35,000 base plus 35,000 bonus) or would you need to do the same amount of paid flying as someone starting off as a base member?
Edit: It looks like from the point simulator that "bonus" points don't help you get to a tier any faster.
Edit: It looks like from the point simulator that "bonus" points don't help you get to a tier any faster.
Last edited by cooger72; Jan 6, 2011 at 1:17 pm
#213
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SJC and ONT
Programs: WN A-List/CP, HHonors Diamond, CX J with AA miles, US Gold/*G
Posts: 2,082
A lot of the discussion has so far been focused on redemption. It must be highlighted that one ver significant loss is that I can no longer "double-dip" between flight credits and partner credits to earn another CP.
I have a feeling that greater than 25% of current (or up to 12/31/2012) CP holders will be dropping off. Although I did dilute my WN flying towards the last two quarters of 2010, my RR 2.0 point total for 2010 was less than 75,000...A-List Preferred handily but well short of CP.
Additionally, as noted above, still no elite privileges for the Companion (even though all CP's will now be A-List, right?).
And lacking a "family pooling" feature, how about a share/gift points mechanism between RR members?
I have a feeling that greater than 25% of current (or up to 12/31/2012) CP holders will be dropping off. Although I did dilute my WN flying towards the last two quarters of 2010, my RR 2.0 point total for 2010 was less than 75,000...A-List Preferred handily but well short of CP.
Additionally, as noted above, still no elite privileges for the Companion (even though all CP's will now be A-List, right?).
And lacking a "family pooling" feature, how about a share/gift points mechanism between RR members?
#214
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Dallas
Programs: AA Gold; WN A-List Pref., CP; Marriott Plat.
Posts: 341
Two questions for SWABrian (or anyone else with knowledge)
SWABrian -
First - as of 3/1/2011 - will the A-List members go to to A-List only or will some of us go to A-List Preferred?
For people like myself (who flew 50+ one way trips) last year - should we not be classified as A-List Preferred for the rest of 2011? That would make the pain of transition a lot more tolerable (and likely keep me on SWA vs. going to AA full time).
Second - for my CP holders - do all of our CP credits in 2010 just go away (with none of them counting towards CP renewal when 3/1/2011 hits)?
My CP expires 12/31/2011. I have 16.5 credits in Nov/Dec that - if I am reading everything correctly - will be worthless under the new RR 2.0 CP qualification. While a great number of people will benefit with a few free months of extended CP use - are people like me just up a creek?
Please advise. Thank you.
First - as of 3/1/2011 - will the A-List members go to to A-List only or will some of us go to A-List Preferred?
For people like myself (who flew 50+ one way trips) last year - should we not be classified as A-List Preferred for the rest of 2011? That would make the pain of transition a lot more tolerable (and likely keep me on SWA vs. going to AA full time).
Second - for my CP holders - do all of our CP credits in 2010 just go away (with none of them counting towards CP renewal when 3/1/2011 hits)?
My CP expires 12/31/2011. I have 16.5 credits in Nov/Dec that - if I am reading everything correctly - will be worthless under the new RR 2.0 CP qualification. While a great number of people will benefit with a few free months of extended CP use - are people like me just up a creek?
Please advise. Thank you.
#215
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SJC and ONT
Programs: WN A-List/CP, HHonors Diamond, CX J with AA miles, US Gold/*G
Posts: 2,082
#216
Join Date: May 2007
Location: DFW
Programs: WN A+, AA, HYATT DIAMOND, SPG
Posts: 1,125
NOT HAPPY
My CP expires 4.30.11 so it will under 2.0 be extended until the end of 2011. But I've already got 110.5 credits toward my next CP. I get nothing for those. Net net I lose 6 months of a CP which I've already qualified for under the old system. So much for grandfathering.
Raw deal for me.
Raw deal for me.
#217
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SJC and ONT
Programs: WN A-List/CP, HHonors Diamond, CX J with AA miles, US Gold/*G
Posts: 2,082
WN was generous in giving normal A-List and CP extensions to the end of 2012 but without A-List Preferred, as I posted previously, I do not have much incentive to fly WN at all in 2011.
#219
Join Date: May 2006
Location: TUS/PDX
Programs: WN CP/A-List, AS MVPG75K
Posts: 5,798
If it's me and I was commuting on such a short flight, schedule and flight times would be more important to me. Right now, WN has 11 flights/day to PHX and US has 7.
#220
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Oakland, CA
Programs: Southwest A; Marriott Platinum
Posts: 308
My CP expires 4.30.11 so it will under 2.0 be extended until the end of 2011. But I've already got 110.5 credits toward my next CP. I get nothing for those. Net net I lose 6 months of a CP which I've already qualified for under the old system. So much for grandfathering.
Raw deal for me.
Raw deal for me.
I'm in a similar situation (already have my 100 credits and my CP expires 5/31/2011).
#221
Moderator: Southwest Airlines, Capital One
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: California
Programs: WN Companion Pass, A-list preferred, Hyatt Globalist; United Club Lietime (sic) Member
Posts: 21,624
My CP expires 4.30.11 so it will under 2.0 be extended until the end of 2011. But I've already got 110.5 credits toward my next CP. I get nothing for those. Net net I lose 6 months of a CP which I've already qualified for under the old system. So much for grandfathering.
Raw deal for me.
Raw deal for me.
#222
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: A+ Elite, Hilton Gold, OA and hotels, member
Posts: 256
My CP expires 4.30.11 so it will under 2.0 be extended until the end of 2011. But I've already got 110.5 credits toward my next CP. I get nothing for those. Net net I lose 6 months of a CP which I've already qualified for under the old system. So much for grandfathering.
Raw deal for me.
Raw deal for me.
#223
In Memoriam - Company Representative - Southwest Airlines
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: Southwest spokesperson
Posts: 1,201
confirmation on CP extension
I heard back from our Marketing folks on this issue. A lot of you have asked what happens because you have a CP expiring after March 1, but you have already earned enough credits for a second CP. If you are in this group, your CP will be extended to 12/31/2012.
#224
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: HOU
Programs: WN CP, A+, UA Sil, MR Amb LTP, Hyatt Plat, HH Dia, National EE
Posts: 466
A lot of the discussion has so far been focused on redemption. It must be highlighted that one ver significant loss is that I can no longer "double-dip" between flight credits and partner credits to earn another CP.
I have a feeling that greater than 25% of current (or up to 12/31/2012) CP holders will be dropping off. Although I did dilute my WN flying towards the last two quarters of 2010, my RR 2.0 point total for 2010 was less than 75,000...A-List Preferred handily but well short of CP.
Additionally, as noted above, still no elite privileges for the Companion (even though all CP's will now be A-List, right?).
And lacking a "family pooling" feature, how about a share/gift points mechanism between RR members?
I have a feeling that greater than 25% of current (or up to 12/31/2012) CP holders will be dropping off. Although I did dilute my WN flying towards the last two quarters of 2010, my RR 2.0 point total for 2010 was less than 75,000...A-List Preferred handily but well short of CP.
Additionally, as noted above, still no elite privileges for the Companion (even though all CP's will now be A-List, right?).
And lacking a "family pooling" feature, how about a share/gift points mechanism between RR members?
not necessarily A-list preferred just because she had 99k points. Again, A-list goes back to Tier Qualifying Points.
#225
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 52
The points similator told me I had 99,412 points in 2010. What does this mean for actual flights? How much money in WGA fares would I have received and be able to spend? Someone said I would have received A-List preferred status with 99,412 points..but 84,000 of these points were from my southwest credit card. Do points from the credit card apply toward a list status now too? I thought it was only flights. This whole system is way too confusing and i'm so annoyed that Southwest has done this. It was so cut and dry before.