bon95

I'm shocked this post didn't get more attention. This is HUGE devaluation for say someone who travels around 40 flights per year but earns close to 200 credits per year because of partners. Under the new rules you can expect 16 coupons down from an expected 48 drink coupons.

curbcrusher

Perhaps the OP is not clear. What nsx meant is that you must qualify for the CP entirely with either flights or points. You will not be able to earn it with 90 paid one-way flights and 11,000 points. Your points from those flights would count toward the 110,000 point requirement, though.

leeinct

SOOOOO...is the general consensus to use our Awards tickets before RR2.0 takes effect or hold them for the new. My guess is it would be better to use them ASAP.

smmrfld

Can someone from WN please confirm, with certainty, that the 100-credit requal for CP by 2/28 will result in CP through 12/31/2012? The language is very unclear ("at launch", etc.) and there are many CP holders who will have the 100 credits by 2/28, thus requalifying, yet the existing CP will still show a 2011 expiration date. This is very important to know in order to determine strategy in the next few weeks.

uastarflyer

Very good that they removed blackout dates and inventory controls. Now it is similar to UA - you have options. Not always awesome options, but options.

I wish they had taken a page out of the Mileage Plus "choices" book however, and simply allowed whatever point redemption you wish.

In other words, a $200 WGA requires 12,000 points to redeem in RR2.0. Allow me the option instead to purchase the $200 fare, and come credit card statement time, redeem 10,000 points to offset $167 of it.

Of course, this has the added benefit of earning points on the $200 trip.

ryerflyer

As WN is the only airline that flies LAX-OAK, who will you be switching to? You'll either have to start fyling out of different airports, or spend a lot more time and money on connecting LAX/OAK service.

jordanmills

There is no red vertical bar.

nsx

I'm using Firefox with Flashblock and ....... Plus and I see it.

As step zero, click on See What's Changed.

bon95

uastarflyer

LOL! Points for clarity, bon95!

Chuck2009x

I suppose there's a more favorable way to look at it, which is that 8 long-haul RTs used to get you one RT to anywhere.

Now after 8 long-haul RTs, you presumably will have enough points to buy 2 or 3 short-haul flights.

bsdstone

I STILL don't see it!

pshuang

Reviewing my situation, I wanted to re-iterate (as another poster already has) that RR 2.0 changes the RR 1.0 practice of expired awards being extensible for up to 24 months after the expiration date. After March 1, the grace period drops to 12 months after expiration, and you will only be able to extend one more time, whereas in RR 1.0 I believe effectively you could keep on extending if you wanted to. (And the one additional new Standard award that you might be able to get issued after March 1 [thanks to your still having some legacy RR 1.0 credits remaining and make the one-time election to augment those credits with RR 2.0 points] cannot be extended at all.)

The other point I want to highlight is that conversions from Standard awards to Freedom awards are no longer available after the RR 2.0 launch date.

Being that I am sitting on a pile of expired awards as well as a pile of non-expired awards, I will have to figure out what's reasonably optimal for me to do before March 1.

* I think anybody who has an award that will be >12 months expired after March 1 has a fairly easy decision -- pay the $50 to extend it before March 1 or the expired award goes poof on March 1.

* I also think that anybody who has expired awards that are close to being 12 months post-expiration might want to pay the $50 to extend them before March 1. My interpretation (and it's gray) is that you'd still be allowed one more extension after March 1. So if you extend them on February 28, 2011, their new expiration date would be February 28, 2012. You'd have the new 12-month grace period, and on February 28, 2013, if you still haven't used the award, you could exercise your one-time RR 2.0 extension right and still fly on that award up to February 28, 2014. So, you'd be paying $50 sooner than necessary in order to reserve the right to make that second extension post-March 1.

* On the other hand, I have some expired awards that won't be anywhere near 12 months expired by March 1, and I probably won't pay the $50 to extend them up front. Instead, I'll extend them as their 12-month deadline approaches. For example, my award that hits its 12 month post-expiration mark in 12/2011 can be extended then for $50 and I can fly on that award until 12/2012. If I really can't find a good opportunity to fly on that award between now and 12/2012... this whole game is moot.

* Lastly, I think I will want to pay the $50 to convert some Standard awards that are not yet expired but will expire relatively soon to Freedom awards. That buys me some insurance in case WN drastically changes the ease of redemption of legacy Standard awards after RR 2.0 launch.

uastarflyer

Yeah, it's too bad they didn't allow a conversion path from 1.0 awards to a bloc of points to put to use in 2.0.

They grandfathered a lot of other things, but excluded this one, not cool.

UALOneKPlus

Explain please the logic.