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Hyatt & Small Luxury Hotels Of The World Announce Partnership MASTER THREAD

Old Aug 2, 2018, 6:13 pm
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There is a Hyatt sub-forum for everything related to SLH, benefits, reviews, etc...


https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/small-luxury-hotels-slh-772/

would be nice if the forum would get a boost Cheers 59Impala




Paid stays are 10%+ cheaper if booked as an SLH member on its website. It, also, includes continental breakfast. (note from @59impala. I paid a 30% premium for The Plymouth Southbeach.) (antonius66 I observed 10-30% premiums for 2 hotels in Portugal over SLH direct, closer to 50% over OTAs)
A limited number of reviews of SLH properties may be found in the Other Hotel Chains Forum.
World of Hyatt members can earn 5 Base Points for every $1 USD spent on qualifying room rates and can redeem points for free nights at participating SLH hotels. It doesn't stop there, members can also enjoy exclusive in-hotel benefits when staying at a participating SLH hotel.
Complimentary continental breakfast for two
Complimentary Wi-Fi
Early check-in 12:00pm (based on availability at check-in)
Late check-out 2:00pm (based on availability at check-in)
One category room upgrade (based on availability at check-in)

Review Master Threads:
HGU New York: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyatt-world-hyatt/1958701-hgu-new-york-slh-hotel.html
Byblos Art Hotel, Villa Amistà, Verona, Italy: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyat...ing-hotel.html
SINA Centurion Palace - Venice, Italy - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyat...l#post31441012
Hotel Ranga - Iceland: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyatt-world-hyatt/1984015-hotel-ranga-iceland-small-luxury-hotel.html#post31442837
137 PIllars House, Chiang Mai, Thailand https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyat...hiang-mai.html
1906 Lodge Coronado (San Diego), CA: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyat...sland-slh.html
137 Pillars Suites & Residences Bangkok, Thailand: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyatt-world-hyatt/2007231-137-pillars-bangkok-small-luxury-hotel.html
Akyra Thonglor Bangkok, Thailand: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smal...er-thread.html
Opus XIV Bergen, Norway : https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/other-hotel-chains/1983274-hotel-opus-xvi-small-luxury-hotels-bergen-norway.html
Ambassador Zurich, Switzerland: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smal...er-thread.html
Inverlochy Castle, Scotland UK: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyat...-scotland.html
Cromlix, Scotland UK: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smal...-scotland.html
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Hyatt & Small Luxury Hotels Of The World Announce Partnership MASTER THREAD

Old Nov 29, 2018, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by frogss29
I haven't read through it all yet, but would Hyatt BRG SLH properties if Hyatt is quoting a higher price?
Doubt it. Hyatt BRG doesn't apply to partners such as MGM properties. I suspect it will not apply to SLH properties either.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 7:18 pm
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I will add that in my view this is a brilliant move by Hyatt in terms of picking off stays from dissatisfied SPG/Marriott loyalists, particularly since we don't need Hyatt status to get elite-level perks. I could very well see shifting 10-20 nights per year from Marriott to SLH properties.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
I will add that in my view this is a brilliant move by Hyatt in terms of picking off stays from dissatisfied SPG/Marriott loyalists, particularly since we don't need Hyatt status to get elite-level perks. I could very well see shifting 10-20 nights per year from Marriott to SLH properties.
No, no status needed. You just need to pay a 30% premium (if the example in #116 is any indication)
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
You just need to pay a 30% premium (if the example in #116 is any indication)
It's wise to check. I did for a booking I made today. The SLH site offered nonrefundable bookings at a nice discount and a rate that could be canceled up til a day or two before arrival. Hyatt offered the latter rate with equivalent cancellation terms.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 9:24 pm
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I don't really get how Hyatt decides what to mark up and when. I'd think Hyatt gets some back-end feed of the same rates offered on the SLH website, but the pricing offsets seem to differ.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by josephstern
I don't really get how Hyatt decides what to mark up and when. I'd think Hyatt gets some back-end feed of the same rates offered on the SLH website, but the pricing offsets seem to differ.
Either SLH or Hyatt probably negotiate bilaterally with the individual hotels (or in some cases a collection of hotels owned/operated by a single party) and agree to some kind of arrangemenf that is acceptable both to the hotel owner/operator and to SLH/Hyatt. It’s probably why the mark-ups will vary or the rate utilized will be some kind of so-called best availability rate that is higher than the cheaper and more restricted rates on offer from a hotel.

And I doubt that Hyatt BRG will apply.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 9:57 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
No, no status needed. You just need to pay a 30% premium (if the example in #116 is any indication)
A truly valuable comment based on a hearsay datapoint of exactly one

Properties I've checked are selling at competitive rates.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 10:12 pm
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most expensive PH are not necessarily immediately moving to 8
they did 8 as part of deal with SLH to get properties to agree
two roads is another factor, for example alila uluwatu (is it owned?)

besides comparison to starwood and design hotels, also accor and partner hotels (gone)

Originally Posted by damon88
Although Starwood owns a 74% equity interest in Design Hotels, it continues to operate independently and Starwood does not include its financials in quarterly reports.
it's not the equity, it's the domination agreement
starwood / marriott exclude SPG / MR design hotels in financials
(likely hyatt will do same, assuming SLH similarly not franchises)
(many things excluded from financials, that arent indepedent)
1.9m euro net income last year, says (in DE) mostly via SPG..

http://corporate.designhotels.com/do...oc_bm_en_0.pdf
October 10, 2018 Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide, LLC ("Starwood") ,a subsidiary of Marriott International ,Inc. ("Marriott") , has issued on the basis of the existing domination agreement
founder out >
http://corporate.designhotels.com/do...adhoc_en_0.pdf

domination agreement >
http://corporate.designhotels.com/do...ewsbv_en_0.pdf
http://corporate.designhotels.com/do...ss_bv_en_0.pdf

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Old Nov 30, 2018, 1:44 am
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
most expensive PH are not necessarily immediately moving to 8
they did 8 as part of deal with SLH to get properties to agree
That latter sentence above isn't the case, as it seems to say that it was the SLH properties that demanded that Hyatt set up a Category 8. That wasn't the case with at least some of these Hyatt-enrolled SLH properties..

What I have good reason to suspect happened was that Hyatt wanted to set up Category 8 for two purposes: to set up for a more general devaluation of Hyatt points in customer accounts; and to be able to more easily justify paying the enrolled SLH hotels a bulk discount rate for award nights using Hyatt points so as not to materially erode the financial metrics being provided to Hyatt by the loyalty program. The SLH hotels care about what gets settled in real money for nights paid for by Hyatt by customers using Hyatt points. SLH hotels won't get paid in Hyatt points for award nights using Hyatt points, but they will get paid in government-issued currencies.

I was checking out what some luxury properties get reimbursed by affiliate partner program for award nights using points/credits from affiliate partner programs. It's not unusual for some of the hotels charging $350+/night to have flat reimbursement rates that could be as low as $75/night regardless of occupancy. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hyatt-SLH agreement works sort of the same way, even as most of the US major's programs seem to mainly have a super-low rate in cash for most award nights unless the award night is on a night with very high occupancy levels at the enrolled hotel -- but that's for their own chain properties.
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Old Nov 30, 2018, 6:26 am
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Really surprised this is only starting with 50+ hotels or around 10% of the overall SLH portfolio! I know Starwood rolled out the Design Hotel addition rather slowly but this does seem like more hype than reality. I am hopeful that they will add more properties shortly but I guess we will have to wait and see. Some nice options in Greece that I will look at later today since I am heading there in June 2019. I guess 12 new options in Greece is better than none!
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Old Nov 30, 2018, 7:34 am
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When this was announced I joined Invite and stayed at a couple hotels this summer. I agree the Hyatt website is more expensive than SLH website. I also booked my hotels thru the hotels own website for a rate cheaper than the SLH web site. What I didn't realize by doing this you dont get credit towards invite status.
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Old Nov 30, 2018, 1:57 pm
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FYI, I updated my map of SLH hotels by marking those participating in the World of Hyatt program:
http://www.continentaltraveller.blog/map/
(still only covering Europe)

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I'll update it on a regular basis. Looking at the map now, there is still a lot of yellow for Hyatt to conquer.
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Old Nov 30, 2018, 3:21 pm
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Really bummed that a single Japan hotel is included. I had dreams of Karuizawa Prince East coming in as a Cat 4...
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Old Nov 30, 2018, 6:23 pm
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Originally Posted by antonius66
So it appears there is no difference between basic members and Glob at these properties?

I do like the extra options it provides in some places for sure, but I wish there were more properties added and definitely going to be disappointed if there is nothing extra for Glob.

Resort fees not waived for Glob at SLH properties. Man, you are not even entitled to a bottle of water..."Members are not entitled to receive bottled water, late check-out, guaranteed availability, free parking, club lounge access, waived resort, destination or facility fees (on award or paid nights), Guest of Honor privileges, or any other Program benefit"

Wonder if maybe they will change the Category 1-7 night and make it a 1-8?
this partnership is so bad
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Old Nov 30, 2018, 7:57 pm
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I thought this sounded very promising when first announced. Well, we all know where the devil is...
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