TerryK

Doubt it. Hyatt BRG doesn't apply to partners such as MGM properties. I suspect it will not apply to SLH properties either.

Kacee

I will add that in my view this is a brilliant move by Hyatt in terms of picking off stays from dissatisfied SPG/Marriott loyalists, particularly since we don't need Hyatt status to get elite-level perks. I could very well see shifting 10-20 nights per year from Marriott to SLH properties.

VegasGambler

No, no status needed. You just need to pay a 30% premium (if the example in #116 is any indication)

SanDiego1K

It's wise to check. I did for a booking I made today. The SLH site offered nonrefundable bookings at a nice discount and a rate that could be canceled up til a day or two before arrival. Hyatt offered the latter rate with equivalent cancellation terms.

josephstern

I don't really get how Hyatt decides what to mark up and when. I'd think Hyatt gets some back-end feed of the same rates offered on the SLH website, but the pricing offsets seem to differ.

GUWonder

Kacee

A truly valuable comment based on a hearsay datapoint of exactly one

Properties I've checked are selling at competitive rates.

Kagehitokiri

most expensive PH are not necessarily immediately moving to 8
they did 8 as part of deal with SLH to get properties to agree
two roads is another factor, for example alila uluwatu (is it owned?)

besides comparison to starwood and design hotels, also accor and partner hotels (gone)

it's not the equity, it's the domination agreement
starwood / marriott exclude SPG / MR design hotels in financials
(likely hyatt will do same, assuming SLH similarly not franchises)
(many things excluded from financials, that arent indepedent)
1.9m euro net income last year, says (in DE) mostly via SPG..

http://corporate.designhotels.com/do...oc_bm_en_0.pdf
founder out >
http://corporate.designhotels.com/do...adhoc_en_0.pdf

domination agreement >
http://corporate.designhotels.com/do...ewsbv_en_0.pdf
http://corporate.designhotels.com/do...ss_bv_en_0.pdf

GUWonder

That latter sentence above isn't the case, as it seems to say that it was the SLH properties that demanded that Hyatt set up a Category 8. That wasn't the case with at least some of these Hyatt-enrolled SLH properties..

What I have good reason to suspect happened was that Hyatt wanted to set up Category 8 for two purposes: to set up for a more general devaluation of Hyatt points in customer accounts; and to be able to more easily justify paying the enrolled SLH hotels a bulk discount rate for award nights using Hyatt points so as not to materially erode the financial metrics being provided to Hyatt by the loyalty program. The SLH hotels care about what gets settled in real money for nights paid for by Hyatt by customers using Hyatt points. SLH hotels won't get paid in Hyatt points for award nights using Hyatt points, but they will get paid in government-issued currencies.

I was checking out what some luxury properties get reimbursed by affiliate partner program for award nights using points/credits from affiliate partner programs. It's not unusual for some of the hotels charging $350+/night to have flat reimbursement rates that could be as low as $75/night regardless of occupancy. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hyatt-SLH agreement works sort of the same way, even as most of the US major's programs seem to mainly have a super-low rate in cash for most award nights unless the award night is on a night with very high occupancy levels at the enrolled hotel -- but that's for their own chain properties.

christianj

Really surprised this is only starting with 50+ hotels or around 10% of the overall SLH portfolio! I know Starwood rolled out the Design Hotel addition rather slowly but this does seem like more hype than reality. I am hopeful that they will add more properties shortly but I guess we will have to wait and see. Some nice options in Greece that I will look at later today since I am heading there in June 2019. I guess 12 new options in Greece is better than none!

1fan

When this was announced I joined Invite and stayed at a couple hotels this summer. I agree the Hyatt website is more expensive than SLH website. I also booked my hotels thru the hotels own website for a rate cheaper than the SLH web site. What I didn't realize by doing this you dont get credit towards invite status.

lightwalker

FYI, I updated my map of SLH hotels by marking those participating in the World of Hyatt program:
http://www.continentaltraveller.blog/map/
(still only covering Europe)

Screenshot:


I'll update it on a regular basis. Looking at the map now, there is still a lot of yellow for Hyatt to conquer.

hailstorm

Really bummed that a single Japan hotel is included. I had dreams of Karuizawa Prince East coming in as a Cat 4...

zack14

this partnership is so bad

rfrost