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The Plymouth South Beach (SLH) - REVIEW - MASTER THREAD

Old Feb 13, 19, 6:30 pm
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The Plymouth South Beach (SLH) - REVIEW - MASTER THREAD

As agreed with the Hyatt Mod´s I am starting this new thread on an SLH hotel.
Checked in today for a one night stay. You never get a second chance to make a first impression.... first impression a bit disappointing as a WOH member....

I had to fill in a form with my personal details, so the information was not transferred from my account. Not a big issue. But I noticed that the room was already pre-assigned and room number stated on the form. When I asked what type of room it was, they FDA said it was the room type I booked. Lowest category. I said I should get an upgrade as a WOH member. All rooms sold out was the answer. Agent double checked and said, yeah ... she only has an upgrade to a room with 2 beds and we for sure would not want that. (We had reserved king, but actually prefer double... booked king as we hoped to have a better chance of an upgrade). My wife and I simultaneously said „oh that is fine“. Agent checked again and said.... oh no, acrually there is no upgrade with 2 beds either. I showed her my cell phone and said... all room categories are avaiable for sale, and as a WOH member I specifically chose this hotel to try it out.... she disappeared twice in the back office.... before she finally upgraded us 1 category....needed a lot of pushing.

I said I would require the 2 pm checkout, which is confirmed upon checkin, if available. She said that should be ok and has been pre requested. I‘ll see tomorrow what actually happens. We have a 5pm flight out of MIA so would enjoy the late check out.

so far not very impressed, will report back with more details after I return home.
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Old Feb 13, 19, 11:57 pm
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so far not very impressed, will report back with more details after I return home.

i commend you for having nerves of steel. i avoid all properties with any recent modifications to their program flag (anything under a year). SLH properties and your treatment makes me think of the AccorHotels takeover disease of the Fairmont brand. meaning, $500+/night rooms w/ agents who gives a rats butt of your status, and you have to battle front desk agents just to get anything basic like upgrades or late checkout. maybe it would have been different if you were INDULGED status? who knows but everybody on Yelp and TAdvisor loves them so maybe im missing something here.

when i read the hyatt/SLH T&C like this, i stay away:
Please also note that the In-hotel Benefits provided to Members when they stay at a Hyatt hotel or resort are not provided to Members staying at Participating SLH Properties. Members are not entitled to receive bottled water, late check-out, guaranteed availability, free parking, club lounge access, waived resort, destination or facility fees (on award or paid nights), Guest of Honor privileges, or any other Program benefit not specified herein.

in any case, i dont expect every property to be fully trained and on-board with the hyatt partnership for awhile. not to mention, i still have no clue how this partnership really works. i will stick to hyatt brands with well documented and solid benefits for globs. and if "boutique lux" is necessary, will use FHR or virtuoso etc.

appreciate your DP and i hope u rest well.

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Old Feb 14, 19, 1:09 am
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Yikes. Hyatt kind of giving up what they're best at in this partnership, so far.
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Old Feb 14, 19, 3:31 am
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Originally Posted by 59Impala View Post
... she finally upgraded us 1 category....needed a lot of pushing.
SLH seems to have adapted quickly to the Hyatt culture. I dislike having to push to get my promised and earned benefits, but it seems to be the norm at many hotels.
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Old Feb 14, 19, 6:04 am
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What price premium did you pay by booking this through Hyatt channels vs through SLH ?
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Old Feb 14, 19, 6:23 am
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What price premium did you pay by booking this through Hyatt channels vs through SLH ?
195$ on slh.com vs 259$ on hyatt.com ... a 33% premium.

only worth it as I am aiming for LT Glob this year, else would not stay here anymore.
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Interesting... what we need is a "comparison shopper" who shows up under the SLH program (and lower price!), to see if they get their promised upgrade (plus, doesn't that program give one a 3pm late checkout)?
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Old Feb 14, 19, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by 59Impala View Post
only worth it as I am aiming for LT Glob this year, else would not stay here anymore.
Why the timeframe of getting to LT Glob this year? Are you not going to hit 60 qualifying nights but close enough on lifetime spend to lock that in with less nights?
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Old Feb 14, 19, 1:53 pm
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Why the timeframe of getting to LT Glob this year? Are you not going to hit 60 qualifying nights but close enough on lifetime spend to lock that in with less nights?
correct. I need a total of 95k points to reach LT this year. As of today still require 57k. cannot reach Glob with nights credit this year. i do not travel on business any longer. all stays are leisure.

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Old Feb 18, 19, 11:18 pm
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A DP on points/night credit to my account. 5 days after check-out sill no credit. I have requested credit via the app, and to my surprise the hotel is even listed there. It is mentioned, that I must wait 72 hours after check-out to request. So this seems to be the benchmark in general.
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from a WOH perspective: suggest to avoid hotel

The Plymouth South Beach (SLH)

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The Plymouth South Beach (SLH)

336 21st St Miami Beach, FL US 33139

From a WOH perspective: suggest to avoid hotel (6 Photos)

The Plymouth South Beach (SLH)

I am writing this review from a World of Hyatt perspective, and as such, I would totally avoid this hotel for multiple reasons as outlined below.

The benefits for WOH members are stated as follows: 

  • Complimentary continental breakfast for two
  • Complimentary Wi-Fi
  • Early check-in 12:00pm (based on availability at check-in)
  • Late check-out 2:00pm (based on availability at check-in)
  • One category room upgrade (based on availability at check-in)

 

Check In

Check-in was extremely frustrating and disappointing.

It was basically friendly, they offered water or sparkling wine while the process was going on.

I had to fill in a form with my personal details, so the information was not transferred from my account. Not a big issue. But I noticed that the room was already pre-assigned and room number stated on the form. When I asked what type of room it was, they FDA said it was the room type I booked. Lowest category. I said I should get an upgrade as a WOH member. All rooms sold out was the answer. Agent double checked and said, yeah ... she only has an upgrade to a room with 2 beds and we for sure would not want that. (We had reserved king, but actually prefer double... booked king as we hoped to have a better chance of an upgrade). My wife and I simultaneously said „oh that is fine“. Agent checked again and said.... oh no, acrually there is no upgrade with 2 beds either. I showed her my cell phone and said... all room categories are avaiable for sale, and as a WOH member I specifically chose this hotel to try it out.... she disappeared twice in the back office.... before she finally upgraded us 1 category....needed a lot of pushing.  (copy/past from my previous post while on site).

In hindsight when checking the rooms today when publishing this review, I believe I was NOT upgraded, only had a pool view. The basic rooms do not have a desk, while the others do. And my room did not have a desk!

Room

Room is very very very small. hardly any place to put 2 suitcases. the Bed was pretty comfortable though20190213_155707.jpg

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and in the whole room, there was not a single waste bin, not in the bathroom, nor near the "bar", nowhere. We had to be creative and use a Publix plastic bag, the luxury version of a waste bin.

Room.jpg

I missed the free bottle of water for WOH members. The bottle of Fiji cots 8$  - no way I'd pay that. 

The bathroom was very very very small. there was no room to store anything:

Bathroom.jpg

 

Due to the fact, that we still had jetlag, we were awake around 5 a.m. I was looking forward to a great cup of coffee (not the filtered coffee typically available), from an "Illy" coffee machine. BUT, there was no milk, or cream, of creamer/powder. 


So I went down to the reception to ask for some milk, and he said, "no, there is none in the room, and the fridges are locked, so I'd have to wait until the restaurant opens" (which by the way was 7:30 am for breakfast.).

My wife cannot drink coffee without milk/cream, but I tried it. I survived :-).

When I received my credit card bill, I noticed an additional charge of about 2.50$. Since 1 coffee pad was the only item we took from the bar, it must be for that. So not even coffee was included. I did not have any additional charges beyond room rate and the taxes.

Service

Service in general was nothing special at all.

 

Dining

We only had breakfast there. Continental was included. From my perspective, breakfast starts way too late. 7:30 am. When we came down at 7:29, there were about 4 couples waiting in the lobby. So we are for sure not the only ones who have breakfast early. I do not expect breakfast at 6 am, since it is a leisure and not a busienss hotel. but 7am is the minimum I'd say. 

Upon entrance they checked on a list if breakfast was included or not. It was not noted, that it was included as a WOH member, I had to explain. They told me I need to get a voucher first at the front desk, which I tried to do... only the FDA could not find any. They let me in nevertheless.

 

Breakfast was meh... sorry, but Hyatt Place is better. Very basic, nothing extraordinary. Not what I would expect from a "Small Luxury Hotel", I did not see any luxury (e.g. salmon, scrambled eggs - there were only hard-boiled and cold eggs). Probably you could have ordered à la carte eggs etc, but that would not hav been included.

Staff not really interested and not friendly  - disappointing experience.

Location

Location good, nothing to add. about 15 minutes walk to Lincoln Road mall.

Pool

Pool was heated and very warm. View from our room:20190213_155815.jpg

On the day before it had been raining heavily - all day. The pool staff did not remove the cushions of the pool chairs, so on the following day (nice and sunny) they were soaking wet and could not be used. They were still wet when we left the pool area before noon. I would have expected, from a "luxury hotel", that they be removed and put back again for use.

 

Overall

As a World of Hyatt member, I would NOT book this hotel. It is not worth a 30% higher rate, not at all.  When next time in the South Beach area, The Confidante would be my first choice, then the Centric SB. 

I even had to pay the 30$ resort fee at The Plymouth, which at Hyatt branded hotels is waived for Globalists.

These are screenshots for my stay from 13-14 Feb 2019. you will notice the price, plus you'll notice the availability of all room categories. 

What I thought was MOST disturbing was, that the front desk agent simply lied to me, that no other rooms were available to upgrade. Unbelievable.

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Beach

The beach is about a 5 minute walk from the hotel. 2 beach chairs and towels are included in the room rate.

From a WOH perspective: suggest to avoid hotel

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Old Mar 2, 19, 10:54 pm
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Your room reminds me of a fancier Toyoko Inn. It's that tiny. Thank you for taking one for the team and writing this place up.

I can't believe they charged for the Illy pod!

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Old Mar 2, 19, 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Aventine View Post
Your room reminds me of a fancier Toyoko Inn. It's that tiny. Thank you for taking one for the team and writing this place up.

I can't believe they charged for the Illy pod!
I hope I am not insinuating anything... but that was the only additional charge in hindsight on my credit card bill, but honestly, I did not bother to check back. not worth the effort.
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Many thanks for the heads up 59Impala as I was just about to book the Plymouth for a Miami Beach stay later this year. I stayed at the Confidante in March while spring break was in full swing so probably didn't enjoy the best stay. Have also stayed at the Centric so I'll look at both of these again.
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Old May 28, 19, 11:03 am
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Many thanks for the heads up 59Impala as I was just about to book the Plymouth for a Miami Beach stay later this year. I stayed at the Confidante in March while spring break was in full swing so probably didn't enjoy the best stay. Have also stayed at the Centric so I'll look at both of these again.
you're welcome. For me it's a no-brainer. I just booked the Confidante again for November
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