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Jun 18, 2008 | 3:24 am

#271

rtwgeek

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ST RTW from SGN prices

I do RTWs out of SGN fairly regularly and have gotten the following prices. When I do my ST RTWs, I get my tickets from Air France's office whose prices are pretty much harmonized with *A's RTW rates.

COACH
RTW Special (26,000 miles) - $2,399
RTWSKY1 (29,000 miles) - $2,889
RTWSKY2 (34,000 miles) - $3,319
RTWSKY3 (39,000 miles) - $3,899

BUSINESS
RTWSKY1 (29,000 miles) - $5,679
RTWSKY2 (34,000 miles) - $6,559
RTWSKY3 (39,000 miles) - $7,699

FIRST
RTWSKY1 (29,000 miles) - $7,859
RTWSKY2 (34,000 miles) - $9,079
RTWSKY3 (39,000 miles) - $10,669

So if you ever decide to do an RTW out of SGN, these are fairly up-to-date prices.

Jun 18, 2008 | 7:35 am

#272

delanotre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sbm12

It means that you'll pay the France price if you have it ticketed in France ("point of payment"), even if you are initiating the travel from JNB ("point of origin") since the France price is higher. Your best bet would be to have it ticketed in JNB and pay for it there, either on a seperate trip or through a reputable travel agency.

Thanks, but how to understand the lines after:

. IF THE SAME FARE BASIS CODE IS NOT OFFERED FROM THE TWO POINTS- THE LOWEST APPLICABLE FARES ARE TO BE COMPARED.

Jun 18, 2008 | 7:59 am

#273

delanotre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtwgeek

i do not find the same AF prices from SGN

[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/USD]

Code:

SGN  Ho Chi Minh City VN [VVTS]
SGN  Ho Chi Minh City VN [VVTS]
RT   Jun-May

Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
AF        SGN    SGN     2506   USD             10  12M  LRTWSKY4
AF        SGN    SGN     3428   USD             10  12M  VRTWSKY3
AF        SGN    SGN     3863   USD             10  12M  VRTWSKY2
AF        SGN    SGN     4450   USD             10  12M  VRTWSKY1
AF        SGN    SGN     6756   USD             10  12M  IRTWSKY3
AF        SGN    SGN     7647   USD             10  12M  IRTWSKY2
AF        SGN    SGN     8800   USD             10  12M  IRTWSKY1
AF        SGN    SGN    11354   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
AF        SGN    SGN    12755   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY2
AF        SGN    SGN    14625   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY1

and these are without any taxes prices...
any comment?
thanks

Jul 9, 2008 | 4:23 pm

#274

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Updated SkyTeam RTW fares?

Anyone know where I can find current fares ex-Central America (Costa Rica, Panama, etc.). WearyBizTrvlr's spreadsheet only shows a notation as the fares being "old".

TIA!

Jul 9, 2008 | 11:07 pm

#275

Gnopps

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Some sample fares ex Central America

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24.05.2004

Anyone know where I can find current fares ex-Central America (Costa Rica, Panama, etc.). WearyBizTrvlr's spreadsheet only shows a notation as the fares being "old".

TIA!

Some sample fares:

PTY, MGA, SAP
01 YRTWSKY3 4069
02 YRWWJ30 4569
03 YRTWSKY2 4687
04 YRWWJ35 5187
05 YRTWSKY1 5511
06 YRWWJ40 6011
07 CRTWSKY3 7880
08 CRWWJ30 8880
09 CRTWSKY2 9013
10 CRWWJ35 10013
11 CRTWSKY1 10558
12 CRWWJ40 11558

SJO, GUA, SAL, BZE
01 YRTWSKY3 4569
02 YRWWJ30 4569
03 YRTWSKY2 5187
04 YRWWJ35 5187
05 YRTWSKY1 6011
06 YRWWJ40 6011
07 CRTWSKY3 8880
08 CRWWJ30 8880
09 CRTWSKY2 10013
10 CRWWJ35 10013
11 CRTWSKY1 11558
12 CRWWJ40 11558

MEX
01 KRTWSKY4 3129
02 SRTWSKY3 3990
03 SRTWSKY2 4620
04 SRTWSKY1 5408
05 JRTWSKY3 7770
06 JRTWSKY2 8873
07 JRTWSKY1 10448
08 FRTWSKY3 11413
09 FRTWSKY2 13132
10 FRTWSKY1 15414

Jul 10, 2008 | 3:11 am

#276

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How about ex-Kenya? I haven't seen that anywhere. Kenya is the base of a Skyteam member! KQ.

Jul 10, 2008 | 4:40 am

#277

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From Nairobi

Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpy

How about ex-Kenya? I haven't seen that anywhere. Kenya is the base of a Skyteam member! KQ.

Here are the fares from Kenya:

01 YRTWSKY3 3800
02 YRWWJ30 4300
03 YRTWSKY2 4400
04 YRWWJ35 4900
05 YRTWSKY1 5150
06 YRWWJ40 5650
07 CRTWSKY3 7400
08 CRWWJ30 8400
09 CRTWSKY2 8450
10 CRWWJ35 9450
11 CRTWSKY1 9950
12 CRWWJ40 10950

Jul 10, 2008 | 5:32 am

#278

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Thanks Gnopps. What currency is that? USD?

Seems quite a bit higher than South Africa, eh? I guess it would be worth it to buy the ticket down in JNB if I can find an agent.

I don't suppose you can see ex-Kinshasa (FIH) fares? KQ and AF fly there so it ought to be possible and I might be going there.

Jul 10, 2008 | 5:40 am

#279

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpy

Yup, it is all in USD. Here is FIH:

01 YRTWSKY3 3800
02 YRWWJ30 4300
03 YRTWSKY2 4400
04 YRWWJ35 4900
05 YRTWSKY1 5150
06 YRWWJ40 5650
07 CRTWSKY3 7400
08 CRWWJ30 8400
09 CRTWSKY2 8450
10 CRWWJ35 9450
11 CRTWSKY1 9950
12 CRWWJ40 10950

JNB (in ZAR, 100 ZAR = ~13 USD)

01 KRTWSKY4 16800
02 SRTWSKY3 18720
03 SRTWSKY2 21520
04 SRTWSKY1 25260
05 JRTWSKY3 41920
06 JRTWSKY2 48200
07 JRTWSKY1 56630
08 FRTWSKY3 62630
09 FRTWSKY2 72030
10 FRTWSKY1 84540

Jul 10, 2008 | 5:55 am

#280

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Thanks. Yes there seems to be a huge price difference between Kenya and SA. Well worth making the trip down to JNB I suppose.

Jul 13, 2008 | 5:19 am

#281

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpy

Thanks. Yes there seems to be a huge price difference between Kenya and SA. Well worth making the trip down to JNB I suppose.

JNB is the cheapest place to buy a RTW, but don't forget you need to buy it at least 7 days before first segment , and add the price of RT from your home.
buy it to KL/NW/or CO because AF is more expensive...
http://www.travelonline.co.za/rtwfares.asp

Last edited by dechil; Jul 13, 2008 at 6:04 am

Aug 19, 2008 | 11:59 pm

#282

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Award RTW

Information on another thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=856984

Aug 20, 2008 | 3:54 pm

#283

nomad1974

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According to gnopps' list (THANKS!), LON seems (rather surprisingly) to be one of the cheaper places for the RTWSKY3, at least in Economy. Is this really true?

Aug 20, 2008 | 7:54 pm

#284

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nomad1974

According to gnopps' list (THANKS!), LON seems (rather surprisingly) to be one of the cheaper places for the RTWSKY3, at least in Economy. Is this really true?

The Y RTWSKY3 is $2969 in JNB, $3249 in LON, $4591 in NYC, $4481 in PAR, $3406 in SGN and $3468 in HKG. So, yes, LON seems to be a pretty decent place to buy one.

Aug 23, 2008 | 1:15 pm

#285

asar

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Hey everyone!!

I'm a Mexican student in Britain, working for the summer in India. I've read FT for a lot of time but rarely talk. Now I need a bit of advice.

I booked an RTWSKY4 on the following route: LHR-CDG-OSL (land) LED-MXP-CDG (stop) MAA (land) BOM-ICN-NRT (stop) MEX (stop) ATL-LHR

The following AF segments were booked by some AF person I'm HATING on class L:
LHR-CDG
CDG-OSL
MXP-CDG
and most importantly CDG-MAA

My FFP (AM Club Premier) does not accrue any mileage for AF L tickets and I got absolutely nothing. This flight was my key for becoming Skyteam Elite for the rest of my RTW and for a MAD-MEX in December. I really need the Elite status for the extra baggage allowance (had to move out of school and also have three months of stuff with me!). AM also does not allow award upgrades, and Elite was my only hope for a 16-hour NRT-MEX in Biz.

Now, I'm under the impression RTWSKY4 on AF must be booked on either Class T or W. Why these people booked on L I don't understand (AF UK handled my RTW in a pretty incompetent manner, with most operators having no idea of what it was about and me having to explain. I spent a fortune on phonecalls).

I'm trying to convince AM to credit me the miles. My plan is to show them I should have been booked on T/W and get my miles. For this I've been instructed to send a fax to the supervisor at Club Premier. So,

can you give me an updated screen output of RTW rules to send?

Failing that, do you have any suggestions? I'm a bit desperate and short of time. Also a bit disappointed with Skyteam and furious with AF and generally tired of airlines and flying (a very very bad sign!!)

Thanks all