For CO and Delta FF program but:
if you are a Flying Blue member, the AF/KLM Frequent flyer program, you will NOT earn any miles for economic RTW on KE ( class H ). It's a shame, you are right...
http://www.airfrance.us/X04/en/local...cekedgfndghn.0

I think it is strange. Should not all members of Skyteam be treated equally?

Then it would make no sense to keep all those separate programmes now would it? Might as well just dump us all in one �ber-FFP and be done with it

I, too, find it strange that KE is ready to dish out miles to attract CO, DL (or SU!) flyers but wouldn't do so for FB members but that's the way it is.

Is that not where we are heading? Hammer one airline out of KL/AF/DL/NW?

Star Alliance and oneWorld have round the world calculators on their sites. I can't find one on SkyTeam. Does anybody know if there is one that I'm mising?

Jeff

oops..apparently they do

All the alliances have an RTW calculator (and we know them well!). Skyteam's, while inferior to Star Alliance's RTW Calculator, is existent:

http://www.skyteam.com/EN/travelPlan...bles/index.jsp

They call it their Travel Timetable.

Main complaints:
* When shifting from basic to simple view, doesn't preserve info already entered into fields

* No auto-update option that I know of

* Fonts don't auto-scale to window size

* No world map to visualize routing (minor)

One nice advantage though is that it has a 7-day check on flights - useful for flights that don't happen everyday.

Nice thing about ST and *A's is they use the same outpur format so you can actually build an itin in one program and view it in the other.

I was just talking to a friendly knowledgable agent (yes they do exist) at the worldperks RTW award desk who brought my RTW dreams crashing down when she said that a world perks rtw award trip is limited to 29,000 miles. I've scoured all of Jaimito's and other's entries and have never heard this before. Given the flying back and forth between hubs to get to six stops, you quickly top the limit. Can anyone confirm or deny? Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask this question.

Thanks much

There was no mileage limitation on my RTW trip. If I had to guess, I'd say they're quoting you limitations on paid RTW. I found many agents who gave me incorrect info over the booking process. I'd call back at another time, and see what the next agent says.

The only basic rules they gave me was:

Move in one general direction (E-W or W-E). No backtracking, but connections are fine. So, you can connect in NRT 4 times, if necessary. I know when I checked the mileage for my trip, it came out to about 52k total, including the connections.

6 stopovers (24 hours or more), not counting start or finish. For NW, no airlines outside of Skyteam were allowed (even for US connections), which is different from what DL flyers have reported.

No open jaws.

When you purchase a RTW, there are 3 levels. The cheapest is for trips under 29,000 miles, then 34,000 miles, then 39,000 miles. Each level has a price. I thought it was the same for awards, but I've never done a RTW award.

In economy you have also 26000 miles.

Sorry if this has been addressed before, but is it possible to combine miles across skyteam partners to buy a RTW (example 80k Delta + 35k Air France/KLM + 30k Continental)?

Also I'm almost certain the answer is no, but is it possible to earn miles on the trip?

Most definitely not!

On paid RTWs, it certainly is!

This agent was almost certainly incorrect, or WP has the most stringent version of a ST RTW reward, but I'm guessing the former, not the latter.

This may be a WP-only thing. In my RTW trip I arrived at MNL and departed HAN creating an "open jaw" that is really a surface sector. MNL/HAN counted as one of my destinations in the calculation of the deal.

Regarding the no backtracking rule, paid and reward tickets are slightly different. In a paid ticket you cannot backtrack between zones, but once you are in Europe, for instance, the rules are pretty flexible. At least that is what I've been led to believe from posts in this thread. On a reward RTW you are strictly limited on a stop by stop basis, so each stop must move in the same direction, regradless of whether you're in the same zone/region. Taking advantage of the 24 hour connection rule usually helps alleviate this issue somewhat.

thanks for the quick reply-
on the first point, figures.

on the second I meant using an award ticket (i.e. if I bought a ticket using DL miles, could I claim AirFrance/KLM miles?)