PPS run - does such a thing exist?
Oct 20, 2005, 3:28 pm
#151
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Originally Posted by CGK
How about this Kiwi Flyer?
BKK-XNRT-ICN-XSIN-DEL-XSIN-ICN-YVR-JFK-FRA-SIN-XBKK-NRT-BKK.
If you start the trip from BKK, you can get out and in BKK twice, correct?
BKK-XNRT-ICN-XSIN-DEL-XSIN-ICN-YVR-JFK-FRA-SIN-XBKK-NRT-BKK.
If you start the trip from BKK, you can get out and in BKK twice, correct?
Oct 20, 2005, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Not enough mileage to add this routing (or replace one of the SIN-ICN round trips) to the max routing worked through earlier this thread. Played around with switching out some of the less productive legs.
Eg BKK-NRT-ICN-SIN-DEL-SIN-ICN-YVR-JFK-FRA-SIN-NRT-BKK fits under mileage but under 30 PPS sectors in business class.
Eg BKK-NRT-ICN-SIN-DEL-SIN-ICN-YVR-JFK-FRA-SIN-NRT-BKK fits under mileage but under 30 PPS sectors in business class.
Oct 20, 2005, 10:22 pm
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Maybe - havent looked into it. I am used to RTWs that include AKL needing to be at least RWSTAR2 if not RWSTAR3 to be useful as we're so far out of the way here. But if ex-BKK dont include AKL in RTW and a separate tix BKK-AKL-BKK that may work?
Oct 21, 2005, 12:51 am
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Originally Posted by zvezda
No, once you return to the origin, you're done.
Oct 21, 2005, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by BON
Kiwiflyer, aren't you better off buying a FRWSTAR1 than buying CRWSTAR3? The price difference is only about US$100 according to the prices listed in the Star forum. You will get a little less PPS sectors (27 the most I can come up with) but at least you're in F!
Again, there is a trade-off between 39,000 miles allowance and 29,000 miles only. Also, it will depend on the routing. Better use CRTW if I have to be flying SIN-ICN-YVR (2-class service only) then YVR-FRA LH in the winter (2-class as well).
Oct 21, 2005, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Maybe - havent looked into it. I am used to RTWs that include AKL needing to be at least RWSTAR2 if not RWSTAR3 to be useful as we're so far out of the way here. But if ex-BKK dont include AKL in RTW and a separate tix BKK-AKL-BKK that may work?
BKK-XSIN-AKL-XSIN-ZRH-MAN-XZRH-FRA-JFK-YVR-ICN-SIN-KIX-BKK
30 sectors, but over the mileage. What to reduce? Taking MAN-FRA on LH will bring within mileage allowance, but only 28.75 sectors.
BKK-XSIN-AKL-SIN-ZRH-MAN-XZRH-FRA-JFK-LAX-NRT-XBKK-KIX-BKK
30 sectors. And, it's 39,003 miles per my hand-calculation.
Oct 30, 2005, 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by Nitrox
Hi
Could you guys confirm that CMB-SIN-SFO-SIN-CMB in C would earn 12.5 sectors ? and therefore doing this trip twice would earn PPS ?
Thanks
Could you guys confirm that CMB-SIN-SFO-SIN-CMB in C would earn 12.5 sectors ? and therefore doing this trip twice would earn PPS ?
Thanks
Oct 30, 2005, 7:37 am
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Would it be possible to do a PPS run on a CRTWSTAR1?
I would like to do CPH-SIN-TPE-NRT-ICN-PVG-SIN-LAX-JFK-FRA-CPH which is approx 29k using great circle mapper. How many segments would this be (how do you calculate it?).
I would like to do CPH-SIN-TPE-NRT-ICN-PVG-SIN-LAX-JFK-FRA-CPH which is approx 29k using great circle mapper. How many segments would this be (how do you calculate it?).
Oct 30, 2005, 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by shortfinals
Yes. although if you structured it carefully you could get 15 instead of 12.5
When you say 'structured' do you mean add in an additional stop somewhere or fly in F ?
Oct 30, 2005, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by Bjornstrom
Would it be possible to do a PPS run on a CRTWSTAR1?
I would like to do CPH-SIN-TPE-NRT-ICN-PVG-SIN-LAX-JFK-FRA-CPH which is approx 29k using great circle mapper. How many segments would this be (how do you calculate it?).
I would like to do CPH-SIN-TPE-NRT-ICN-PVG-SIN-LAX-JFK-FRA-CPH which is approx 29k using great circle mapper. How many segments would this be (how do you calculate it?).
SIN-TPE 2002 1.25 sectors
PVG-SIN 2357 1.25 sectors
SIN-LAX 8763 5
JFK-FRA 3847 2.5 sectors
Total sectors earned 13.75.
CPH-SIN just short from the 5 sectors earning (6214 miles being the border).
For SIN-LAX, if you take nonstop, you have to pay a surcharge. You can do SIN-HKG-SFO-LAX (which total still below 29,000 miles), and you will gain 1.25 sectors for SIN-HKG (HKG-SFO will get you 5 like SIN-LAX). Total 15 sectors.
Oct 30, 2005, 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by CGK
CPH-SIN 6193 3.75 sectors
SIN-TPE 2002 1.25 sectors
PVG-SIN 2357 1.25 sectors
SIN-LAX 8763 5
JFK-FRA 3847 2.5 sectors
Total sectors earned 13.75.
CPH-SIN just short from the 5 sectors earning (6214 miles being the border).
For SIN-LAX, if you take nonstop, you have to pay a surcharge. You can do SIN-HKG-SFO-LAX (which total still below 29,000 miles), and you will gain 1.25 sectors for SIN-HKG (HKG-SFO will get you 5 like SIN-LAX). Total 15 sectors.
SIN-TPE 2002 1.25 sectors
PVG-SIN 2357 1.25 sectors
SIN-LAX 8763 5
JFK-FRA 3847 2.5 sectors
Total sectors earned 13.75.
CPH-SIN just short from the 5 sectors earning (6214 miles being the border).
For SIN-LAX, if you take nonstop, you have to pay a surcharge. You can do SIN-HKG-SFO-LAX (which total still below 29,000 miles), and you will gain 1.25 sectors for SIN-HKG (HKG-SFO will get you 5 like SIN-LAX). Total 15 sectors.
Any other recommendations to reach the holy 25 sectors?
(maybe a additional CMB-SIN-LAX?)
Last edited by Bjornstrom; Oct 30, 2005 at 8:17 am
Oct 30, 2005, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by Nitrox
Thanks for your help
When you say 'structured' do you mean add in an additional stop somewhere or fly in F ?
When you say 'structured' do you mean add in an additional stop somewhere or fly in F ?
No - instead of taking SQ 2 SIN-HKG-SFO you could go SIN-HKG on SQ866 to connect to SQ2 HKG-SFO. That nets you 1.25 CMB-SIN, 1.25 SIN-HKG and 5 HKG-SFO for a total of 7.5 instead of CMB-SIN 1.25, SIN-SFO for 5 = 6.25
Oct 30, 2005, 8:21 am
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One good place to look is always silkair.com
Last month they had specials to all over in business class.
I found a fare to SOC - Solo City for 639SGD, which includes tax. Not a bad going rate for 2.5 quick sectors, if you just need to top up.
That particular fare is gone, but they do have them from time to time - so check there.
Last month they had specials to all over in business class.
I found a fare to SOC - Solo City for 639SGD, which includes tax. Not a bad going rate for 2.5 quick sectors, if you just need to top up.
That particular fare is gone, but they do have them from time to time - so check there.