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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam1222
this is beyond ridiculous but sure:
Never met either of them, never spoken to them, never emailed them.

The insinuation that one could only disagree with complaints raised here if they have some secret relationship is insane.

Now, tell me more about you. Can you explicitly tell me your relationship to everyone else in this thread?
I would count that as 0 percent relationship. When I read Adam1222 comments on this thread, they always seem objective.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 1:57 am
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Ladies & Gentlemen, dear Kids,

quick reminder of the rules: https://www.flyertalk.com/help/rules#gettingpersonal
In particular:
If you have a difference of opinion with another member, challenge the idea NOT the person. Getting personal with another member is not allowed. Personal attacks, insults, baiting and flaming will not be tolerated.
We understand that one tends to run out or arguments at one point, but lets stay on top of the debate pyramid and not sink low(er). The peanut gallery throws peanuts at the stage, not at each other

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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
I too think TPGs comments section going off was where what little use I had for TPG took a dive.

OMAAT and the other Boarding Area blogs with open comments sections do hold greater interest for me if only because the comments give me a broader perspective than just that coming from the blog authors.
Do you ever comment on OMAAT ?

I used to, but once he required users to registered I stopped, and I definitely read OMAAT less frequently now that I don't/can't comment.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 5:14 pm
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I'm (obviously) not GUWonder, but I see folks posting to OMAAT as guests every day. I'm assuming that couldn't require anything other than a throw-away email, if even that. Not completely sure as I have an account there.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by fartoomanyusers
Do you ever comment on OMAAT ?

I used to, but once he required users to registered I stopped, and I definitely read OMAAT less frequently now that I don't/can't comment.
Originally Posted by WSTC
I'm (obviously) not GUWonder, but I see folks posting to OMAAT as guests every day. I'm assuming that couldn't require anything other than a throw-away email, if even that. Not completely sure as I have an account there.
GUWonder definitely posts in other blogs, under GUWonder.

OMAAT censors more than ever before, under the guise of whatever this new commenting system is.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam1222
this is beyond ridiculous but sure:
Never met either of them, never spoken to them, never emailed them.

The insinuation that one could only disagree with complaints raised here if they have some secret relationship is insane.

Now, tell me more about you. Can you explicitly tell me your relationship to everyone else in this thread?
😆🤣😂

I actually found your response to be funny.

Originally Posted by s0ssos
GUWonder definitely posts in other blogs, under GUWonder.

OMAAT censors more than ever before, under the guise of whatever this new commenting system is.
I've seen GUWonder's posts in the other blogs.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 9:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam1222
You seem to be conflating "defending a blog" with pointing out the critical reasoning flaws in comments. For example, saying that a problem with this blog is shared by other blogs is hardly a defense of the blog.
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Responding to a critique by pointing out that others do it too... indeed that's not necessarily defending the blog, but it does seem to diffuse/deflect the issue itself. I wouldn't say that's the best example to use to defend your position.

Originally Posted by Adam1222
That I think making a post complaining about the word "heck", or, for the 1000th time complaining that the blog has stories about urinating passengers is trite, or that I think some of the comments on Ben's family life are gross, hardly substantiates your accusation.
Its the excessiveness of it that substantiates my allegation. Albeit its not like I actually believed my allegation to begin with.

Originally Posted by Adam1222
The insinuation that one could only disagree with complaints raised here if they have some secret relationship is insane.
Nobody insinuated that. The insinuation was specific to one individual.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 9:11 pm
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So Ben says in regards to those who'd prefer babies not be in first class "if you want to control your environment, flying private is for you."

Then follows up immediately with three seperate articles that go on to imply he'd like to have his environment controlled so that there's no coughing, complaining passengers, or passengers listening to music/programming without headphones.

Not to mention the tone-deaf "And unlike so many others, I have no plans to travel if I need to cough every five seconds."
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 9:42 pm
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The new post about an obnoxious complainer on the flight is hilarious. Obviously, the punchline to "Obnoxious Complainer In Singapore Airlines Business Class" is the response "Ben!"
If you want to see some humor you can see Ben responding in the comments (more than usual, I'd presume) to all the people who don't agree with him (and, gasp, may even criticize him).

I wonder where he thinks the appropriate venue is to complain about him.
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 4:11 am
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
The new post about an obnoxious complainer on the flight is hilarious. Obviously, the punchline to "Obnoxious Complainer In Singapore Airlines Business Class" is the response "Ben!"
If you want to see some humor you can see Ben responding in the comments (more than usual, I'd presume) to all the people who don't agree with him (and, gasp, may even criticize him).

I wonder where he thinks the appropriate venue is to complain about him.
The top 3 comments are currently all Ben replying to previous commenters who disagreed with him !
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by joecool1885
Responding to a critique by pointing out that others do it too... indeed that's not necessarily defending the blog, but it does seem to diffuse/deflect the issue itself. I wouldn't say that's the best example to use to defend your position.



Its the excessiveness of it that substantiates my allegation. Albeit its not like I actually believed my allegation to begin with.



Nobody insinuated that. The insinuation was specific to one individual.
If you think the content of any response I make is illogical or problematic, it is entirely appropriate to say so. To make up that I am Ben is not.

Unfortunately, this is actually a common insinuation across Flyertalk (and has been levied at others in this very thread!!)

If you're acknowledging you just made baseless allegations against a fellow FT member just to troll, it seems that perhaps the problem is you, not my comments.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by joecool1885
So Ben says in regards to those who'd prefer babies not be in first class "if you want to control your environment, flying private is for you."

Then follows up immediately with three seperate articles that go on to imply he'd like to have his environment controlled so that there's no coughing, complaining passengers, or passengers listening to music/programming without headphones.

Not to mention the tone-deaf "And unlike so many others, I have no plans to travel if I need to cough every five seconds."
'If you don't like x then fly private' is a stupid and facile argument in a nuanced situation. And yes, it came back to bite Ben in the butt. But it was always going to because it was a stupid and facile argument to make.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 7:03 am
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Ben doesn't really make arguments—this is the problem. His editorial through line is always "if I personally like something at this moment in time, it's good; if I don't, it's bad." He sometimes attempts to give credence to other viewpoints, but I don't think he is rhetorically gifted enough to do this in most cases.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by CarringtonEvent
Ben doesn't really make arguments—this is the problem. His editorial through line is always "if I personally like something at this moment in time, it's good; if I don't, it's bad." He sometimes attempts to give credence to other viewpoints, but I don't think he is rhetorically gifted enough to do this in most cases.
Unlike VFTW, OMAAT is less polemical and seems less charged in driving forward a political narrative and engaging personally in a discussion to stake out his own point of view on such matters. If it's a problem on OMAAT, I don't see it as being so. Both OMAAT and VFTW have their uses for me.

Originally Posted by joecool1885
So Ben says in regards to those who'd prefer babies not be in first class "if you want to control your environment, flying private is for you."

Then follows up immediately with three seperate articles that go on to imply he'd like to have his environment controlled so that there's no coughing, complaining passengers, or passengers listening to music/programming without headphones.

Not to mention the tone-deaf "And unlike so many others, I have no plans to travel if I need to cough every five seconds."
To be conflicted and inconsistent is part and parcel of the human condition. And selfishness is part of human nature. In some regard, consistency and a lack of internal conflict may perhaps even be a more problematic state of being than being internally conflicted and inconsistent over time.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 8:14 am
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As kokonutz once said: OMAATs core strength is the review of aircraft cabins and hotels. He follows a template there and that template has evolved into a solid product over the years. The other creative parts of the blog, ie posts about news and events are rather patchy. VFTW doesn't do trip reports anymore and has resigned to commenting on events that occur.
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