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American Airlines' first Boeing 787 / 787-8 "Dreamliner" delivered at DFW Jan 2015
discussion, current and future deliveries, 1st delivery video link

American Airlines has ordered 16 Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner. Deliveries were delayed by aircraft design and assembly issues, but began to be delivered in 2015. 16 788s are on order (plus 26 787-9s and options for more). Seating configuration is 28 Business Class, 48 Main Cabin Extra and 150 Main Cabin. Typical range would be JFK and HKG or JNB.


With a typical capacity of 242 passengers and a range of 7,355 nautical miles (13,621 km), the -8 is the base model of the 787 family and was the first to enter service in 2011.[257] With a length of 186 feet (57 m) and a wingspan of 197 feet (60 m), it is the third Boeing widebody after the 747SP and the 777-200LR wider than its length. The 787-8 is targeted to replace the Boeing 767-200ER and -300ER, as well as expand into new non-stop markets where larger planes would not be economically viable. Link to full Wikipedia article
Inside American Airlines Newest Boeing 787 Dreamliner
The Dallas Morning News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOwvyAeVANQ
General and interior coverage video (4:16)

Configuration: C28 W48 Y150. #1 of 16 787-8s and 26 787-9s on order (total 42 787s including 787-9s and options for another 58).

Currently active: 17

N800AN, N801AC, N802AN, N803AL, N804AN, N805AN, N806AA, N807AA, N808AN, N809AA, N810AN, N811AB, N812AA, N813AN, N814AA, N815AA, N816AA.

Upcoming deliveries (type, estimated date):

N820AL (789, 22SEP16), N821AN (789, 12OCT16), ZB448 (789, 28OCT16), ZB449 (789, 15DEC16), ZB450 (789, 11JAN17), ZB451 (789, 27JAN17), ZA918 (788, 06FEB17), ZA919 (788, 16MAR17), ZA920 (788, 30MAR17), ZB452 (789, 17MAY17), ZB453 (789, 23MAY17), ZB454 (789, 16JUN17), ZB455 (789, 27JUL17), ZB456 (789, 21AUG17).

Please see AA publicly announces initial Boeing 787 / 788 routes 11 Feb 2015 for announced route and inaugural flights information.

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Originally Posted by itchief
2nd 787 on it's way to DFW.

N801AC B787-8 American Airlines Delivered
L/N 249 C/N 40619 B787-8 N801AC AMERICAN AIRLINES
Dep CHS 11:22 EST ETA DFW 12:45 CST
N800AN, American Airlines' first Being 787-8 Dreamliner, c/n 40618, line no. 241, reg no. N800AN, fleet ("tail") #8AA, has been announced as arriving DFW for flight trials etc. today, 23 Jan 2015. AA9702 departed PAE (Everett, WA) 14:07 hrs Friday, 23 January 2015, landed DFW at approximately 19:00 (local times).

PR News Wire: American Airlines Welcomes First Dreamliner

Originally Posted by JonNYC
1st AA 787 scheduled to be delivered as AA9702, this Friday (23 Jan 2015) PAE-DFW, arriving DFW at 4:21pm
The first AA 787-8, N800AN, has been built; flight testing began 6 January 2015 with the article currently referred to as "BOE-817".

(Post #186 by JonNYC in the archived thread has details for the 787-9.)

Originally Posted by American Airlines
Boeing 787s
We have plans to acquire 42 state-of-the-art 787(-8) Dreamliners, which are currently scheduled to be delivered starting in late 2014
The All Things 787 Blog states American has 16 787-8s and 26 787-9s on order.

Dallas Morning News (30 Jan 2015): American expects to accept 12 Boeing 787-8s in 2015.

JonNYC depicts what the J cabin layout is likely here in the deliveries thread.

Bloomberg (27 Mar 2015 - see post #144 from tom911) says ships 3 and 4 are parked "in the Mojave desert" until a seats shortage is sorted out.

some final tweaks, incorporating details gleaned from photos:


roadwarrior84 shares some interior photos he found online, herein the old thread.

The obsolete thread is ARCHIVE: AA 787 Orders / Delays / Changes / Delivery Dates, 2012 and later (consolidated).



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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 11:54 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Nice one!

Oh God is she hott. I swear only the New American livery makes the 787-8 look like the girl of your dreams. I can't wait to see the 787-9 next year.
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Originally Posted by itchief
Back to the 787-8, ZA818 American Airlines 787-8 N801AC made its 2nd B2 - 2nd Boeing test flight - on Tuesday. After a couple of customer flights the second AA 787 will be on it's way to DFW.

here is a link to the latest picture of N801AC in flight.

http://kpae.blogspot.com
The Puget Sound Boeing Test Flight board is reporting that N801AC will be going off to Charleston today. Others have reported that space is tight in Seattle because of the backlog of 787s that are out of the factory but have not been delivered.

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Originally Posted by JonNYC
With great respect, I personally think you are overstating each and every point here-- greatly. Again, with respect and all, but, I don't see this AA 787 with it's new seats as ANY kind of "great game-changer" in any way, shape or form.

And since quite obviously one of these two inaugural 787 routes is to Asia, AA is still far inferior to almost every single one of it's Asian-flagged competitors (albeit, yes, with connection involved.)

Let's not get carried away, IMHO.
Wasn't there a rumor about new routes on 787 to ME? Wonder if that's still sticking..
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Originally Posted by carsnoceans
Wasn't there a rumor about new routes on 787 to ME? Wonder if that's still sticking..
ME? As in Middle East?

What I wouldn't give for a nonstop DFW-BEY. I won't hold my breath though.

I'm just happy to be able to do it with one stop nowadays.
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Originally Posted by carsnoceans
Wasn't there a rumor about new routes on 787 to ME? Wonder if that's still sticking..
I personally think its unlikely short term. AA is so late to the game and the local markets are relatively small, I just dont see it happening soon.

I would expect service to the South Pacific well before the middle east.
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Originally Posted by imapilotaz
I personally think its unlikely short term. AA is so late to the game and the local markets are relatively small, I just dont see it happening soon.
Ditto.
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I've heard rumors of LAX-AKL. The 787-8 would be the right aircraft to start this. I don't think it will require any to change to the Qantas JBV. I think American metal flying to Australia will happen eventually, once they change the rules of the JBV and start receiving A350s.
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Originally Posted by Longboater
I've heard rumors of LAX-AKL. The 787-8 would be the right aircraft to start this. I don't think it will require any to change to the Qantas JBV. I think American metal flying to Australia will happen eventually, once they change the rules of the JBV and start receiving A350s.
I don't believe any of those AKL or S.Pacific rumors to be credible at this juncture.
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Originally Posted by imapilotaz
I personally think its unlikely short term. AA is so late to the game and the local markets are relatively small, I just dont see it happening soon.

I would expect service to the South Pacific well before the middle east.
Local markets as in ex-ME pax? Yeah, I can see that too.

Why the hell did AA ever pull out of India?! I would believe that to be a fairly busy route. Never seen a flight ex-DEL that was less than sold-out.
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Originally Posted by carsnoceans
Local markets as in ex-ME pax? Yeah, I can see that too.

Why the hell did AA ever pull out of India?! I would believe that to be a fairly busy route. Never seen a flight ex-DEL that was less than sold-out.
Trash yields. Air India dumped the prices. Combined with ME 3 flying, American won't be returning to India even with the planned configuration of the 787-9, which would be favourable for such a flight.
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Originally Posted by carsnoceans
Wasn't there a rumor about new routes on 787 to ME? Wonder if that's still sticking..
PHL - TLV is apparently doing very well for US so perhaps MIA - TLV could be on the radar?
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Originally Posted by carsnoceans
Local markets as in ex-ME pax? Yeah, I can see that too.

Why the hell did AA ever pull out of India?! I would believe that to be a fairly busy route. Never seen a flight ex-DEL that was less than sold-out.
AA were flying a high premium configured 777 with 16 F seats ... as Longboater remarked the yields (with or without AI) are pretty much on the low side. AA will probably restart service to DEL/BOM in the future with the 787-8/9 since the configuration (esp of the -9) offers a perfect setup for the Indian market - low number of J and high Y.

There are several caveats - AA's Indian partner is Jet - once BOM has its state of the art integrated Intl and Domestic terminal up and running (currently only Intl is operational) it would be significantly easier for AA to offer one stop connections to almost all of India with favorable timings since Jet has a pretty strong network ex BOM.

Most importantly - India was downgraded to Cat 2 by the FAA - so at the moment US carriers can neither start new service nor put new codeshares on other carriers service to India.

I would look for AA to restart DEL and start BOM in maybe a couple of years down the road, assuming of course that FAA upgrades them back to Cat 1.
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Originally Posted by Hollinger Clarke
AA were flying a high premium configured 777 with 16 F seats ... as Longboater remarked the yields (with or without AI) are pretty much on the low side. AA will probably restart service to DEL/BOM in the future with the 787-8/9 since the configuration (esp of the -9) offers a perfect setup for the Indian market - low number of J and high Y.

There are several caveats - AA's Indian partner is Jet - once BOM has its state of the art integrated Intl and Domestic terminal up and running (currently only Intl is operational) it would be significantly easier for AA to offer one stop connections to almost all of India with favorable timings since Jet has a pretty strong network ex BOM.

Most importantly - India was downgraded to Cat 2 by the FAA - so at the moment US carriers can neither start new service nor put new codeshares on other carriers service to India.

I would look for AA to restart DEL and start BOM in maybe a couple of years down the road, assuming of course that FAA upgrades them back to Cat 1.
If American even wants to try to get back into India flying, my guess would be to BOM. Newark is the only city to have service to BOM. Operating a 787-9 on say ORD-BOM would provide tremendous cost savings than on ORD-DEL. It would also have the benefit of operating without a nonstop competitor, unless Air India wants in on the market when their 787-9s arrive. But still, the ME 3 could continue to keep fares low and keep the route unprofitable. There is a reason only United makes money on USA-India nonstop.
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pics of new AA 787s @Boeing's Paine Field

Sorry for the delay -- not a tease! I had to rush off to another event before I could get the photo links to work!

Here is a link to a video of N802AN landing at Paine Field 2/20/2015
http://tinyurl.com/oeb2kno

and a still photo:
https://flic.kr/p/qmkpbc

here's N803AN that was not flying that day, but is parked right next to the Customer Acceptance facility at Paine Field.
https://flic.kr/p/ri6YWP

I took these photos and video when attending Aviation Geek Fest 2015. I was very lucky to get a full ticket, as they all sold out in literally 30 seconds!
(http://www.airlinereporter.com/2015/...eek-fest-2015/)

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Well that was a tease
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