Jan 23, 2015, 6:01 pm
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American Airlines' first Boeing 787 / 787-8 "Dreamliner" delivered at DFW Jan 2015
discussion, current and future deliveries, 1st delivery video link
discussion, current and future deliveries, 1st delivery video link
American Airlines has ordered 16 Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner. Deliveries were delayed by aircraft design and assembly issues, but began to be delivered in 2015. 16 788s are on order (plus 26 787-9s and options for more). Seating configuration is 28 Business Class, 48 Main Cabin Extra and 150 Main Cabin. Typical range would be JFK and HKG or JNB.
With a typical capacity of 242 passengers and a range of 7,355 nautical miles (13,621 km), the -8 is the base model of the 787 family and was the first to enter service in 2011.[257] With a length of 186 feet (57 m) and a wingspan of 197 feet (60 m), it is the third Boeing widebody after the 747SP and the 777-200LR wider than its length. The 787-8 is targeted to replace the Boeing 767-200ER and -300ER, as well as expand into new non-stop markets where larger planes would not be economically viable. Link to full Wikipedia article
Inside American Airlines Newest Boeing 787 Dreamliner
The Dallas Morning News
The Dallas Morning News
Configuration: C28 W48 Y150. #1 of 16 787-8s and 26 787-9s on order (total 42 787s including 787-9s and options for another 58).
Currently active: 17
N800AN, N801AC, N802AN, N803AL, N804AN, N805AN, N806AA, N807AA, N808AN, N809AA, N810AN, N811AB, N812AA, N813AN, N814AA, N815AA, N816AA.
Upcoming deliveries (type, estimated date):
N820AL (789, 22SEP16), N821AN (789, 12OCT16), ZB448 (789, 28OCT16), ZB449 (789, 15DEC16), ZB450 (789, 11JAN17), ZB451 (789, 27JAN17), ZA918 (788, 06FEB17), ZA919 (788, 16MAR17), ZA920 (788, 30MAR17), ZB452 (789, 17MAY17), ZB453 (789, 23MAY17), ZB454 (789, 16JUN17), ZB455 (789, 27JUL17), ZB456 (789, 21AUG17).
Please see AA publicly announces initial Boeing 787 / 788 routes 11 Feb 2015 for announced route and inaugural flights information.
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PR News Wire: American Airlines Welcomes First Dreamliner
(Post #186 by JonNYC in the archived thread has details for the 787-9.)
Originally Posted by American Airlines
Boeing 787s
We have plans to acquire 42 state-of-the-art 787(-8) Dreamliners, which are currently scheduled to be delivered starting in late 2014
We have plans to acquire 42 state-of-the-art 787(-8) Dreamliners, which are currently scheduled to be delivered starting in late 2014
Dallas Morning News (30 Jan 2015): American expects to accept 12 Boeing 787-8s in 2015.
JonNYC depicts what the J cabin layout is likely here in the deliveries thread.
Bloomberg (27 Mar 2015 - see post #144 from tom911) says ships 3 and 4 are parked "in the Mojave desert" until a seats shortage is sorted out.
some final tweaks, incorporating details gleaned from photos:
roadwarrior84 shares some interior photos he found online, herein the old thread.
The obsolete thread is ARCHIVE: AA 787 Orders / Delays / Changes / Delivery Dates, 2012 and later (consolidated).
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AA's first Boeing 787 / 787-8 arv. Jan 2015; discussion, deliveries
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AA slowing 787 deliveries
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...liveries.html/
Prior to the deferral, the number of 787 to be delivered in 2016 was 13.
The revised schedule has it taking eight in 2016, 13 in 2017 and eight in 2018.
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Prior to the deferral, the number of 787 to be delivered in 2016 was 13.
Prior to the deferral, the number of 787 to be delivered in 2016 was 13.
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Prior to the deferral, the number of 787 to be delivered in 2016 was 13.
Prior to the deferral, the number of 787 to be delivered in 2016 was 13.
I wouldnt be shocked if the A350s end up being deferred if things continue as is.
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Received an invite through a group I am involved with. Can't go, though I will see the 787 a week later for the inaugural.
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Over the first two months of service, the 359 has had an amazing lack of reported problems (especially when compared to the 788) and it's a passenger pleaser (much quieter, larger seats/cabin etc. than the 788/789); hopefully it's pleasing the airlines as well (I hate airplanes that please airlines at the expense of passenger comfort!)
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I wonder if they have access to QR's data about 359 vs. 788 performance (operational costs, reliability, etc.).
Over the first two months of service, the 359 has had an amazing lack of reported problems (especially when compared to the 788) and it's a passenger pleaser (much quieter, larger seats/cabin etc. than the 788/789); hopefully it's pleasing the airlines as well (I hate airplanes that please airlines at the expense of passenger comfort!)
Over the first two months of service, the 359 has had an amazing lack of reported problems (especially when compared to the 788) and it's a passenger pleaser (much quieter, larger seats/cabin etc. than the 788/789); hopefully it's pleasing the airlines as well (I hate airplanes that please airlines at the expense of passenger comfort!)
https://sites.google.com/site/a350xw...roduction-list
the first should have been delivered in 2013 and they should be at 5 per month by now.
The 359 is also not the same as a 788/9, the 788/9 is much more revolutionary with a much greater change in technology from older models than the 359. Yes they are both use carbon fiber but not in the same way. The 788/9 is built in large pieces and the 359 is riveted together. The 359 uses bleed air from the engines, the 788 does not, it is more electric.
They are both super efficient airplanes but they are very different airplanes.
This is from AviationWeek, 787 vs 767
http://aviationweek.com/awin/operato...l-burn-results
"Yet figures from launch airline All Nippon Airways (ANA) show fuel savings are up to 21% on long-range flights, while figures for the General Electric GEnx-1B-powered aircraft at Japan Airlines (JAL) indicate potentially slightly better numbers."
those are huge numbers even with fuel prices down.
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The 5 being delayed is being reported due to AA wanting to swap some out some -9s for more -8s and that's when Boeing could build them.
http://www.thestreet.com/story/13129...o&cm_ven=YAHOO
http://www.thestreet.com/story/13129...o&cm_ven=YAHOO
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