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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 2:21 pm
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If anyone is in Paris this Xmas, you should pass by the GV and see the frozen Xmas trees. Sublime.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Yahillwe
If anyone is in Paris this Xmas, you should pass by the GV and see the frozen Xmas trees. Sublime.
I just saw the pictures on Facebook. Impressive and very inventive, art, really.
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I just booked for a stay next year to try it out. How is the F&B quality standard in this hotel? What about room service?
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by BENLEE
I just booked for a stay next year to try it out. How is the F&B quality standard in this hotel? What about room service?
Eric Briffard is Exec Chef at FS GV. Extremely high quality F&B, from le Cinq gastronomic to la Galerie all-day-dining, and le Bar, which does some very fine snacks, including Lobster Club at around 68 Euros.

Fabulous wine lists.

Rooms service is good, but it's a pity to eat in when the restaurants are so lovely. Courtyard dining in the summer months is superb.
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 12:39 pm
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updated earlier financials post with 2011 net of $11,872,000
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post13542264

looking at 2011 financials >
alwaleed going to sell more stakes in FS hotels - 78% marrakech, 50% mauritius, 19% paris
(that would leave the following stakes in FS hotels - 90% langkawi, 57% beirut, 55% damascus)
thats kingdom hotels, while kingdom holding owns FS toronto, and presumably owns 75% of paris?
kingdom holding lists as asset and current PR mentions. article and release from 1996 >
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...v-1313074.html
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-rel...156038605.html

new childrens offering in oct 2012 >
http://press.fourseasons.com/paris/2...eorge-v-paris/

family/childrens recreation manager >
http://www.fourseasons.com/paris/my_...audia_caringi/
http://press.fourseasons.com/paris/h...ests-features/
seems she was appointed in 2007

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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by BENLEE
I just booked for a stay next year to try it out. How is the F&B quality standard in this hotel? What about room service?
Le Cinq is sublime--highly encourage a meal here, not just at La Galerie, as lovely as the courtyard is during the summer. If price is of concern, try the prix fixe lunch, which is a steal at ~95 EUR per person.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by TravelConcierge
Le Cinq is sublime--highly encourage a meal here, not just at La Galerie, as lovely as the courtyard is during the summer. If price is of concern, try the prix fixe lunch, which is a steal at ~95 EUR per person.
Hello

What did you like there ? The food ? The service ? both ?
I did love the room and that's about it.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
What did you like there ? The food ? The service ? both ? I did love the room and that's about it.
if youre talking about le cinq, just searching "briffard" in luxury hotels forum, and perfect for this thread >

Originally Posted by robyng
We dined at Le Cinq once. It was right on target for a 2 star restaurant. Excellent meal. And the 130 euro menu is a bargain by Paris standards.
= summer lunch menu was his first, before fall?

Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle
Eric Briffard's cuisine is masterful. He manages to combine the most subtle herbs and spices so that they taste just-picked and perfectly complement the food being cooked. Even his sorbets taste fresher and fruitier. I would say that his expertise majors on the delicacy of scents and flavours coupled with an understanding that today's high-end guests quite like knowing what they are eating. The meat melted, it was so soft. Much as I loved Philippe Legendre's food, I think I prefer Briffard's as it is less tricksy, yet somehow more accomplished, if that makes sense.
Originally Posted by mktozd
You are far more elegant in your analysis, but we felt the food at George V is amonsgt the finest in the world from the simple to the complex.
Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle
Best Culinary Experience [2009] -- Eric Briffard at le Cinq, FS George V.
Originally Posted by antirealist
The place is a jewel in the FS crown.
Originally Posted by estnet
Hope u enjoy your meal at Le Cinq as much as I did today
Originally Posted by SanDiego1K
We were treated with great graciousness when we ate at Le Cinq in 2009. However, at that time, many of the dishes including the butter had a Japanese influence. I was not keen on seaweed in my sweet butter. Everyone has their own taste in food. This was not to mine.
Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle
When Philippe Legendre was at le Cinq, with his 3 stars, I did not dine better than when Eric Briffard joined with the 2 stars...For me, Briffard's cuisine is more approachable and the flavours are incredibly subtle. It is interesting that since Briffard joined, more tables in le Cinq are occupied by locals, who appear to bring the whole family. To me, this speaks volumes.
Originally Posted by DonJ
Sorry, I ate recently at Le Cinq - very 2 star food, impeccable service though.
Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle
2-star Michelin standard is surely not to be sniffed at?
Originally Posted by DonJ
Absolutely not. However, at least in my opinion, there's a big difference between a good two star and a good three star restaurant in terms of food experience (for some reason there's not a substantial difference in price though). I would rank Le Cinq mid-range two star.
Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo
Eric Briffard, one of my favorite chefs, has been at the hotel`s restaurant Le Cinq for the past two years.
Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo
10 deerpoints for Four Seasons George V. Eric Briffard is the ideal chef for the hotel. I was a huge fan of his back when he was at Les lyses du Vernet, and I now think that Le Cinq is even better.
Originally Posted by BENLEE
I had a splendid meal at their signature restaurane LeCinq
Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle
Eric Briffard is Exec Chef at FS GV. Extremely high quality F&B

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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
...= summer lunch menu was his first, before fall?
That 130 Euro menu was a dinner menu in September 2008 - not lunch. Robyn
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
Hello

What did you like there ? The food ? The service ? both ?
I did love the room and that's about it.
I tried the restaurant, for breakfast and dinner, and I agree with you. There's far better in Paris when it comes to michelin starred restaurants, and not only within the 3 star category (l'Arpge, Astrance, and even La Tour d'Argent, who was downgraded, go higher in my book). I still need to try l'Epicure who has received rave reviews.
However, for a hotel restaurant, the quality is still phenomenal, especially when you compare it to other 5 star hotels in major cities.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 4:20 pm
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thanks robyng.

Originally Posted by vincentb89
for a hotel restaurant, the quality is still phenomenal, especially when you compare it to other 5 star hotels in major cities.
what about other hotels in paris?

edit - interesting, thanks vincentb89

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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
what about other hotels in paris?
I need to try l'Epicure at le Bristol but it's supposed to be among the best experiences in term of food within Paris.
Allno at le Meurice was oustanding but he left 6 months ago (to Le cheval blanc in Courchevel i believe) so I don't know how it has evolved.
Ducasse at le Plaza is a classical interpretation of a 3 star restaurant. You can't go wrong with this place, and I would advise it compared to Le Cinq at GV.
Le Royal Monceau used to have a wonderful restaurant with a "jardin d'hiver" and a harpist playing at nights but they scrapped it when they did the remodeling, and the new restaurant is a joke compared to before.
L'Abeille at Shangri La and the MO restaurant are not in the same league.

Food is a personal experience, so just my taste. However, there are some restaurants not within hotels in Paris that shouldn't be missed.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by vincentb89
...Food is a personal experience, so just my taste. However, there are some restaurants not within hotels in Paris that shouldn't be missed.
Pierre Gagnaire is in that category (though technically in a hotel ). My last lunch there lasted 4 hours and cost EUR 2000 however. Le Meurice (yet another hotel restaurant) is also in the "shouldn't be missed" category. Finally a non-hotel restaurant is Senderens, which is in a class by itself (rejected Michelin rating but forced to be 2 star as simply too good to be unclassified) and you can have a great lunch there with interesting wine matchings for EUR 150 making it the bargain of Paris for this kind of dining.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 11:14 pm
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Having just spent a couple weeks around the George V, this is very well put.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by number_6
Pierre Gagnaire is in that category (though technically in a hotel ). My last lunch there lasted 4 hours and cost EUR 2000 however. Le Meurice (yet another hotel restaurant) is also in the "shouldn't be missed" category. Finally a non-hotel restaurant is Senderens, which is in a class by itself (rejected Michelin rating but forced to be 2 star as simply too good to be unclassified) and you can have a great lunch there with interesting wine matchings for EUR 150 making it the bargain of Paris for this kind of dining.
Biggest lunch "bargain" IMO is the 100 euro lunch (now 110 euros) at Guy Savoy. By request only. Will cost considerably more with wine. Robyn
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