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#7546
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UME 🇸🇪 / NWI🇬🇧
Programs: SJ, SAS, DL
Posts: 1,701
I never had cause to take taxis in Sweden, mainly because I live rurally and none will ever come out our way.
One aspect of taxi deregulation and consolidation I don’t appreciate is that our local town (pop. 4,000) lost its last local taxi service when the municipality awarded school transport contracts to a company in Umeå. That company had been bought out by one the national operators. Of course they were cheaper so they won the bid. But now all their cars do a 100km roundtrip just to start their school runs. And we don’t have any local taxi service for those emergencies or occasions when you need them. The weighting of these public contracts ignores social benefit and goes straight for the lowest bid.
One aspect of taxi deregulation and consolidation I don’t appreciate is that our local town (pop. 4,000) lost its last local taxi service when the municipality awarded school transport contracts to a company in Umeå. That company had been bought out by one the national operators. Of course they were cheaper so they won the bid. But now all their cars do a 100km roundtrip just to start their school runs. And we don’t have any local taxi service for those emergencies or occasions when you need them. The weighting of these public contracts ignores social benefit and goes straight for the lowest bid.
#7547
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Posts: 102,095
I never had cause to take taxis in Sweden, mainly because I live rurally and none will ever come out our way.
One aspect of taxi deregulation and consolidation I don’t appreciate is that our local town (pop. 4,000) lost its last local taxi service when the municipality awarded school transport contracts to a company in Umeå. That company had been bought out by one the national operators. Of course they were cheaper so they won the bid. But now all their cars do a 100km roundtrip just to start their school runs. And we don’t have any local taxi service for those emergencies or occasions when you need them. The weighting of these public contracts ignores social benefit and goes straight for the lowest bid.
One aspect of taxi deregulation and consolidation I don’t appreciate is that our local town (pop. 4,000) lost its last local taxi service when the municipality awarded school transport contracts to a company in Umeå. That company had been bought out by one the national operators. Of course they were cheaper so they won the bid. But now all their cars do a 100km roundtrip just to start their school runs. And we don’t have any local taxi service for those emergencies or occasions when you need them. The weighting of these public contracts ignores social benefit and goes straight for the lowest bid.
#7548
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: EuroBonus Diamond, Delta Skymiles 360, BAEC LTG, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 2,829
Bolt tends to be cheaper than Uber for most of my rides in Stockholm, and so in Stockholm I mostly use Bolt when I would otherwise have used a taxi or Uber in prior years.
In Sweden there is Uber and Bolt even in Malmo. That suggests to me that if Denmark opened up to more competition, then they would be able to have Uber and/or Bolt not only in Copenhagen but also in Aarhus and maybe even Odense. But I find that in Stockholm that even people who are making over 80k-100k SEK per month are reluctant to default to taking taxis or Uber and would rather push it to taking the bike or public/mass transport if not their own car from the garage. I suspect the dynamic would also work out sort of the same way in Denmark as in Sweden.
In Sweden there is Uber and Bolt even in Malmo. That suggests to me that if Denmark opened up to more competition, then they would be able to have Uber and/or Bolt not only in Copenhagen but also in Aarhus and maybe even Odense. But I find that in Stockholm that even people who are making over 80k-100k SEK per month are reluctant to default to taking taxis or Uber and would rather push it to taking the bike or public/mass transport if not their own car from the garage. I suspect the dynamic would also work out sort of the same way in Denmark as in Sweden.
I never had cause to take taxis in Sweden, mainly because I live rurally and none will ever come out our way.
One aspect of taxi deregulation and consolidation I don’t appreciate is that our local town (pop. 4,000) lost its last local taxi service when the municipality awarded school transport contracts to a company in Umeå. That company had been bought out by one the national operators. Of course they were cheaper so they won the bid. But now all their cars do a 100km roundtrip just to start their school runs. And we don’t have any local taxi service for those emergencies or occasions when you need them. The weighting of these public contracts ignores social benefit and goes straight for the lowest bid.
One aspect of taxi deregulation and consolidation I don’t appreciate is that our local town (pop. 4,000) lost its last local taxi service when the municipality awarded school transport contracts to a company in Umeå. That company had been bought out by one the national operators. Of course they were cheaper so they won the bid. But now all their cars do a 100km roundtrip just to start their school runs. And we don’t have any local taxi service for those emergencies or occasions when you need them. The weighting of these public contracts ignores social benefit and goes straight for the lowest bid.
#7549
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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It is completely absurd this system even exists. If you live rural and decide to have children you should be able to and have the means to get them to school. Making that the tax payer's problem is mind blowing. I would argue that with Sweden's 10% or close to it unemployment rate, there is ample opportunity for the rural areas to have Uber drivers as well.
Many of the farm kids in rural America also get school bus service, and they certainly did make use of it a lot around me except amusingly enough during deer hunting season which is when they would be less likely to use the school bus service than get a ride in with a private/commercial vehicle. Mandatory school, mandatory for responsible governments to facilitate school accessibility. Just like in Sweden, so in the US: small rural schools got shutdown for financial and demographic reasons and instead larger more consolidated schools popped up necessitating longer school trips for many a farmer’s kid than for the farmer.
I enjoy seeing the old school buildings that go up for sale in Sweden, but converting them into residential properties seems like an expensive and time consuming mess and perhaps an invitation to high operating and maintenance costs.
Speaking of real property, should we expect to see SAS sell off or otherwise surrender property space around Sweden as things shift to Denmark over time?
#7550
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UME 🇸🇪 / NWI🇬🇧
Programs: SJ, SAS, DL
Posts: 1,701
One of the journalists at the media event at Frösundavik on 3rd October asked Anko and his co-presenter (forget his name, from the board?) about the future relocation of the HQ to Denmark. Anko said the usual polite thing... you can take Sweden out of SAS but you can't take SAS out of Sweden (or something like that). His co-presenter simply said "I don't care, but I would like a HQ that's close to an airport."
#7551
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: CPH
Programs: Eurobonus gold, Finnair silver
Posts: 41
Random lounge access question here. I'm flying into Stockholm on SAS, and then out 6 hours later on AY. Since I'm EB gold not diamond I guess I don't have any chance of lounge access for those 6 hours? Could I buy a cheap flight with miles to get access? What would happen if I canceled the ticket after I got into the lounge? The 25 euros cancellation fee sounds fine to me for 6 hours in the lounge...
#7554
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: AY+, SK EB
Posts: 2,962
#7556
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Koala Lemur
Programs: SK EBD LTG (*G)
Posts: 2,447
A small correction: From what I remember, they did not ban Uber (as they did not ban Ryanair). They just required that Uber (and Ryanair) operate withing the existing labour and tax laws. The companies left out of their own will ...
#7557
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
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Posts: 102,095
[email protected] seems to be processing status match requests. Worked for BA elites who fly out of CPH. Seems now also for some others.
I would suggest being careful with timing if already having *G status. But if not taking the opportunity now, who knows how long it will remain or when exactly they will open the door again as part of transitioning to SkyTeam.
I would suggest being careful with timing if already having *G status. But if not taking the opportunity now, who knows how long it will remain or when exactly they will open the door again as part of transitioning to SkyTeam.
#7558
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CPH
Programs: UAMP S, TK M&S E (*G), Marriott LTP, IHG P, SK EBG
Posts: 11,095
[email protected] seems to be processing status match requests. Worked for BA elites who fly out of CPH. Seems now also for some others.
I would suggest being careful with timing if already having *G status. But if not taking the opportunity now, who knows how long it will remain or when exactly they will open the door again as part of transitioning to SkyTeam.
I would suggest being careful with timing if already having *G status. But if not taking the opportunity now, who knows how long it will remain or when exactly they will open the door again as part of transitioning to SkyTeam.
#7559
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
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Posts: 102,095
#7560
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,191