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Old May 10, 2013 | 12:48 pm
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3rd Bag Question

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I'm flying CPH-IAD on Tuesday on SK and continuing on a UA flight. I have 3 bags total plus a backpack. As *G I get to check 2 bags @ 23kg but I'm seriously considering checking the 3rd one. It's a carry on sized roller board, but I'd rather not deal with it. According to the SK website it says that they will charge 100 for each additional piece of checked luggage. Is this really how much they would charge me?

The reason I ask is that UA charges you a lot more for a 3rd bag and any bag after that, so it seems weird to me that SK charges you the same for any bags after your free allowance.
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Old May 10, 2013 | 4:46 pm
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I traveled with SK/UA as *G with 6 bags from Norway to the US last summer and they charged me the flat rate for all bags. The limit is 4 extra bags after calculating your ticket/FF allowance.

Note that if the total weight of your checked bags is ~46kg or less, my experience is that they will let you check them all for free (at least as EBG).
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Old May 11, 2013 | 1:57 pm
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Thanks meheeco. That's what I wanted to hear. I just wanted a second opinion. Unfortunately I have a little more than 46 kg of luggage. I haven't decided if it's worth paying to check a 3rd bag or if I should just take it on as a carry on. We'll see.
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Old May 11, 2013 | 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Acornragazzo
Hi All,
I'm flying CPH-IAD on Tuesday on SK and continuing on a UA flight. I have 3 bags total plus a backpack. As *G I get to check 2 bags @ 23kg but I'm seriously considering checking the 3rd one. It's a carry on sized roller board, but I'd rather not deal with it. According to the SK website it says that they will charge 100 for each additional piece of checked luggage. Is this really how much they would charge me?

The reason I ask is that UA charges you a lot more for a 3rd bag and any bag after that, so it seems weird to me that SK charges you the same for any bags after your free allowance.
UA gives Star Golds 3 free standard size bags of up to 32kg each even in economy class.
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Old May 11, 2013 | 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
UA gives Star Golds 3 free standard size bags of up to 32kg each even in economy class.
According to OP he is flying under SK rules not UA rules.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 1:48 am
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Originally Posted by meheeco
According to OP he is flying under SK rules not UA rules.
Correct. Unless I'm missing something SK is the MSC on my itinerary CPH-IAD (SK) and IAD-PHX (UA). If it was UA they wouldn't care. From what I remember UA also doesn't particularly care if you have a carry on and a personal item in Y, but SK seems to care sometimes.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Acornragazzo
Correct. Unless I'm missing something SK is the MSC on my itinerary CPH-IAD (SK) and IAD-PHX (UA). If it was UA they wouldn't care. From what I remember UA also doesn't particularly care if you have a carry on and a personal item in Y, but SK seems to care sometimes.
SK follows a slightly different rule when it comes to travel to/from the US, so if this actually is a return flight with your first leg originating in the US on UA metal, you would be better off:

http://www.flysas.com/en/Travel-info...h-connections/

Rules for travel to and from the US are slightly different.
  • First carrier baggage rules apply to both outbound and homebound journeys regardless of duration and stopovers.
  • The first carrier in your itinerary is crucial for determining which rules apply for the entire journey to/from the US.
  • The first carrier in the itinerary and the carrier operating the flight may not be the same, meaning that it is a codeshare flight. The first marketing carrier rule applies for the entire journey.
However don't expect the SK check-in agents to follow this rule without you explicitly making them aware of it. Once in this very situation in OSL I had to involve a UA agent because the SK agent refused to follow their own rules even after talking to her supervisor. I then had the right of 3x32kg as a UA Gold, while the SK agent wanted me to pay up for overweight (2x23kg) and the 3rd bag.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 1:12 pm
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These are not SK rules, they are US DOT rules applicable to itineraries to/from the US. Forget the whole MSC silliness.

Whatever the allowance is for the first segment, that allowance will apply throughout the itinerary. Presuming that OP is on a single ticket CPH-IAD-PHX-XXX-CPH, his CPH-IAD allowance will apply thoughout.

Note that if IAD-PHX is a connection, not a stopover, OP's bags will be checked to PHX, but he will retrieve them for CBP at IAD and then drop them. If he is stopping over at IAD, he will collect his bags and then check them in with UA when he departs IAD and pay the third bag fee to UA.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Often1
These are not SK rules, they are US DOT rules applicable to itineraries to/from the US. Forget the whole MSC silliness.

Whatever the allowance is for the first segment, that allowance will apply throughout the itinerary. Presuming that OP is on a single ticket CPH-IAD-PHX-XXX-CPH, his CPH-IAD allowance will apply thoughout.
Thanks. This is actually the end of a trip that started 1/1. EWR-FRA-STR on LH and now CPH-IAD-PHX SK/UA. I didn't realize that about US DOT rules. I always thought it was MSC so thanks for the clarification. I'll probably end up checking the 3rd bag and not deal with it. Thanks for all the comments.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Acornragazzo
Thanks. This is actually the end of a trip that started 1/1. EWR-FRA-STR on LH and now CPH-IAD-PHX SK/UA. I didn't realize that about US DOT rules. I always thought it was MSC so thanks for the clarification. I'll probably end up checking the 3rd bag and not deal with it. Thanks for all the comments.
It it's all on one ticket, the baggage rules for your initial segment, EWR-FRA will apply to the CPH-IAD-PHX. If these are separate tickets, it will be as I said before.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Often1
These are not SK rules, they are US DOT rules applicable to itineraries to/from the US. Forget the whole MSC silliness.

Whatever the allowance is for the first segment, that allowance will apply throughout the itinerary. Presuming that OP is on a single ticket CPH-IAD-PHX-XXX-CPH, his CPH-IAD allowance will apply thoughout.

Note that if IAD-PHX is a connection, not a stopover, OP's bags will be checked to PHX, but he will retrieve them for CBP at IAD and then drop them. If he is stopping over at IAD, he will collect his bags and then check them in with UA when he departs IAD and pay the third bag fee to UA.
The last sentence above, amongst other things, is incorrect. Star Golds on IAD-PHX get three free bags of up to 32kg each.

The free checked bag allowance I get as an economy class Star Gold on EWR-FRA-CPH-IAD-PHX/MSP/ORD/MIA is 3 bags.

MSC rules may be applied to multi-carrier itineraries to/from the US, depending upon what the first marketing carrier on a ticketed itinerary has stipulated -- the first marketing carrier can,
under US rules, stipulate that MSC fees apply.

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Old May 13, 2013 | 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by Acornragazzo
Thanks. This is actually the end of a trip that started 1/1. EWR-FRA-STR on LH and now CPH-IAD-PHX SK/UA. I didn't realize that about US DOT rules. I always thought it was MSC so thanks for the clarification. I'll probably end up checking the 3rd bag and not deal with it. Thanks for all the comments.
Then what really matters is the flight number shown in your booking for the EWR-FRA leg. If this was booked with a LH flight number then LH rules will be applicable for all segments, however if it was booked through SK/UA as a codeshare on LH metal it will be the rules of the company that marketed the flights (i.e either SK or UA).
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Old May 15, 2013 | 8:32 am
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In the end, the nice woman who checked me in let me check all 3 bags for free. I was certainly willing to pay for the third one, but she said something to the effect of "normally you'd have to pay for the third bag, but I'm gonna let it go." I was also surprised that they tagged bags as heavy at 22 kg. In the US I've only seen bags over 23 kg tagged as heavy.
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