Mar 8, 2017, 3:40 am

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Qatar have confirmed the presence of a policy whereby if a customer booked a QSuites flight and subsequently gets an aircraft type swap can you request travel on an alternative flight, subject to availability, see post #2709 Previously this included change of routing, now it only includes changing the date on the same routing. QR issued tickets only!

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Jun 22, 2017, 10:13 am

#391

ijgordon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cricketer

My biggest concern is the knee-room. If I'm lying on my back, I like to be able to bring my knees up and down without hindrance. For this reason I avoid a lot of the staggered seats that enclose your legs. Some of the reverse herringbones have this challenge as well.

I'm in a minority I know - but it's why I am very happy with the business class seats on UA, LH, and other unfancied airlines. Length, footwell size, knee room, and cushioning are the key things for me. I've had no issue with narrower seats, and I'll happily trade storage space, privacy, and food quality for a good bed.

And I like to do downward dogs mid-flight. You can't please everyone I guess!

Jun 23, 2017, 12:21 am

#392

zat_dude

Join Date: Dec 2011

Location: DWC

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Quote:

Originally Posted by purple1addict

I think so too. If you look at the way the seatbacks are in a yingyang formation then they are effectively spaced at 8 across in the cabin (if that makes sense) for shoulder room.

The generic complaints about BA's CW seat jump to mind immediately.

So, in light of the similarities (and not ignoring QR's equity ownership in IAG), will this be now BA's new (r)evolutionary CW seat?

Jun 23, 2017, 3:14 am

#393

WorldLux

Join Date: Sep 2015

Programs: LH SEN; BA Gold

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zat_dude

So, in light of the similarities (and not ignoring QR's equity ownership in IAG), will this be now BA's new (r)evolutionary CW seat?

It has more storage than the CW seat, more privacy and direct aisle access. Other than that it is indeed close to the BA product. That said, I don't think there's something wrong with a CW seat evolution where they have properly addressed all the complaints.

Jun 23, 2017, 6:56 am

#394

zat_dude

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldLux

I agree with you, I'm quite happy with the CW concept in general.

I do think though that it could be beneficial for both QR and BA if the latter used the (slightly modified) QSuite concept in place of the upcoming CW-evolution.

High level thoughts only, I know nothing of the compatibility/footprint/costs/etc.

Jun 23, 2017, 7:35 am

#395

N1Rotate

Join Date: Dec 2009

Posts: 842

The seat configuration is not 8 accross and is not even close to the density of the BA CW bed. The BA CW bed is shorter and narrower, almost all the seat overlaps with the seat next to it making it effectiveley 8 accross.

On the Qsuite only the lower half of your leg overlaps with the lower half of the passenger's leg that is next to you. It works the same as a reverse herringbone seat (A350/787 business class) where the lower leg (narrow part of a human body) overlaps with your seat pan (wide part of a human body) and thigh of the next passenger. The difference is that by overlapping the lower legs you can make the foot well wider than in a reverse herringbone seat.

Also the seat back is very high on the Qsuite compared to the existing seats which gives a visual illusion of it being narrower than it really is. It is slightly narrower than the existing QR seat at the seat pan but actually wider at the shoulder and foot well. Wait till you try the seat.

Jun 24, 2017, 3:41 am

#396

Pyros

Join Date: Feb 2005

Programs: BA Silver

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QR38 (CDG-DOH) just switched from an a350 to a 77W in mid-July. Showing the old seatmap. Any chance it could see a change to the Q Suites?

If not, any recommendations for a decent 77W seat? I tried row 1 on the 77L last year and was massively disappointed with how uncomfortable the bed was.

Jun 24, 2017, 4:55 am

#397

remdk

Join Date: Apr 2012

Posts: 3,944

Pyros since there is only ONE 77W fitted with Qsuites at the moment then the chances are almost zero!

With regard to seating look at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qatar...seating-q.html. This is also available from the dashboard.

Jun 24, 2017, 4:56 am

#398

lost_in_translation

Join Date: Apr 2015

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Looks great from the inaugural flight photos so far!

I was really tempted to book on today's QR8 and wish I had now.

Jun 24, 2017, 8:48 am

#399

cricketer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ijgordon

And I like to do downward dogs mid-flight. You can't please everyone I guess!

Hey - I think I sat next to you on a UA flight from SFO-LHR last year... I have pictures to prove it - the first and only time I've seen someone make their seat into a flat bed to use it as a yoga mat...

Jun 24, 2017, 8:53 am

#400

cricketer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by N1Rotate

I agree on trying it first (and think it looks great) - but I think you're wrong on the overlap. Remember that the overlapping feet extend all the way under your table/side surface. Looks to me that your opposing seatmate's feet will be at your hips or thereabouts.

Jun 24, 2017, 8:56 am

#401

WorldLux

Join Date: Sep 2015

Programs: LH SEN; BA Gold

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cricketer

Still less overlap than on CW though...

Jun 24, 2017, 9:08 am

#402

N1Rotate

Join Date: Dec 2009

Posts: 842

Quote:

Originally Posted by cricketer

On the BE Super Diamond the other passengers feet are directly next to your upper thigh/buttocks area (where the red pillow is in that photo below).

On the Qsuite that area is unconstrained allowing extra space that could give you more room to stretch your arms when you sleep, or allow you to sit in alternative lounging seating positions on longer flights (e.g. side ways with legs crouched up) and more space in general to shift around. It is also a storage compartment and can be raised to become an arm rest. You also now get two pillows thanks to the extra space.

Jun 24, 2017, 10:02 pm

#403

Dr. HFH

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I saw a quote from AAB a year or two ago in which he said that QR would start to move away from F because he intended to design and provide a J experience (both hard and soft products) which exceeded most carriers' F offering. I haven't tried the QSuite yet; but it appears that he might have succeeded.

Jun 25, 2017, 9:44 am

#404

rje444

Join Date: Nov 2013

Location: New York City

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We're booked on a A350 JFK-DOH during the 1st week of January 2018.

If it were you, would you try and change it to the 777 in hopes of getting the suite, or do you think the odds of that route/aircraft being changed to suites by that date are low? (Changing the aircraft would require juggling dates a bit)

Jun 25, 2017, 10:25 am

#405

remdk

Join Date: Apr 2012

Posts: 3,944

rje444 the plans for retrofitting QR aircraft with Qsuites are not very concrete at the moment, not can they be. So giving the oft quoted advice of the last many months 'Never choose your flights for a particular aircraft type. You may be disappointed.'
Who knows new deliveries of the A350, possibly with Qsuites, may be used on that route.