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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 6:35 pm
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Seating maps are now available on CheckMyTrip for confirmed bookings, as well as ITN. I have uploaded a partial screen dump to my webspace if anyone wants a look.

The map seems to indicate I am on the upper deck, only problem is that row 5 is 2+2+2, so clearly lower deck.

They appear to be still selling the P cabin as J in March, but zone 1 seems to be configured as J from April. So I guess we will have to get in soon if we want P seats at J fares.

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 8:04 pm
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I just tried to look up my seating info on CheckMyTrip, but couldn't seem to find where it was. Could you assist?

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 8:41 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AussieMiles:
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I just tried to look up my seating info on CheckMyTrip, but couldn't seem to find where it was. Could you assist?
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You click on the little yellow "+" at the bottom of each sector. It will then expand and seating - if allocated - will appear in there.

BUT - seating is not automagically allocated on international sectors unless you are Qantas Club, Silver, Gold or Platinum. If lowly Bronze you will have to contact QF and get it done. Would this be the reason why it wsa not showing?

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 8:45 pm
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Thanks for the quick response. Yes, sigh, I am a lowly bronze! I just had a look, and the strange thing is, it has been allocated but only in one of the four sectors! And believe it or not, that is on the very last sector, MEL-ADL (but we are on QF81 for this). I do appreciate your help though!
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 9:04 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AussieMiles:
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Thanks for the quick response. Yes, sigh, I am a lowly bronze! I just had a look, and the strange thing is, it has been allocated but only in one of the four sectors! And believe it or not, that is on the very last sector, MEL-ADL (but we are on QF81 for this).
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Is that a fully domestic itinerary?

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Not a problem, always try to be of assistance.

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 9:15 pm
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No it is ADL-MEL-LAX-SFO-LAX-MEL-ADL. Also wierd is that even though there are two of us travelling (Myself and one of my employees who is also a Bronze), on the LAX-SFO and SFO-LAX sectors, only one seat has been allocated!
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It seems Check-my-trip only shows seat allocations for domestic OZ flights if they are Internationals (QF1-399). An upcoming SYD-MEL-SYD flight on QF 409 does not have seat assignment shown whereas the return MEL-SYD (QF180) DOES have seat assignment shown.
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 1:05 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by og:
It seems Check-my-trip only shows seat allocations for domestic OZ flights if they are Internationals (QF1-399). An upcoming SYD-MEL-SYD flight on QF 409 does not have seat assignment shown whereas the return MEL-SYD (QF180) DOES have seat assignment shown.</font>
That is because seat assignments for domestic flights aren't done by the computer until the night before travel.

A great way to do it, actually.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by thadocta:
That is because seat assignments for domestic flights aren't done by the computer until the night before travel.

A great way to do it, actually.

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There is some inconsistency though. No flights with #399 allow pre-selection. Fine. When it comes to domestic flights 1-399 it is badly handled. Some do not allow selection whilst others do. This is exascerbated by the telephone agents who will automatically say that pre-selection is not allowed but when pushed enough to try ( on a 1-399 ) find that they can on some services.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dave Noble:
There is some inconsistency though. No flights with #399 allow pre-selection. Fine. When it comes to domestic flights 1-399 it is badly handled. Some do not allow selection whilst others do. This is exascerbated by the telephone agents who will automatically say that pre-selection is not allowed but when pushed enough to try ( on a 1-399 ) find that they can on some services.</font>
I have found it depends on the actual flight - QF 21 was a 733 from MEL to SYD and a 744 from SYD to NRT - you could not get advance seat selection on the MEL-SYD sector, even if flying from MEL to NRT.

QF 10 operates LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD, and is the same aircraft throughout - and seat selection is available on the MEL-SYD sector.

I think that the actual aircraft operation is a factor in this.

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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 9:00 am
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Seems the two-class 744's will be coming on stream a lot earlier than planned.

See on the below link my seating allocation for a SIN-SYD flight in 2/03:

http://www.netspace.net.au/~thadocta/sinsyd.jpg

Notice that rows 25, 26, etc are configured 3-4-3?

Every QF 744 I have been on has had these rows in J, and the Pacific aircraft go even further back than 27 (which is the last row of J for the Kangaroo fleet).

Also, why the large discrepancy between seating on the starboard side of the aircraft in rows 29 to 33, compared to the port side? The middle section is also taken up.

Is this planned for galley sections in the new two-class 744's?

Inquiring minds need to know!

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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 4:01 am
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I have the same seating plan for QF25 in May. I am assuming the forward galley is on the starboard side. In fact, that attracted me to seek the first few rows on the starboard side for our party of 7. Original automatic allocation was 25 d,e,f,g,h,j,k, which I had changed to include a few windows rather than all bulkhead.

But you are right in that this is an earlier adoption than I was expecting to see. Perhaps they are finishing off the IFE system upgrades at the same time as the 2-class reconfig, which would make sence.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 5:52 am
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Yeah, from the seat map, looks like they're taking out those two closets and the J lav and putting in Y seats -- perhaps getting rid of that little cross-corridor just before the second former biz compartment too?!

What was the last one like this -- the 747SPs? Didn't they have a starboard side galley?

Think El Al does that too.

Will be interesting!
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 2:39 am
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Yep, the -SP's had starboard side forward galleys. The first Y seats on the starboard side were row 35. There were rows 23-17 with ABC and rows 24-27 with DEFG between the 1L and 2L doors. The entire startboard side between doors 1R and 2R was galley.
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 3:10 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by NM:
Yep, the -SP's had starboard side forward galleys. The first Y seats on the starboard side were row 35. There were rows 23-17 with ABC and rows 24-27 with DEFG between the 1L and 2L doors. The entire startboard side between doors 1R and 2R was galley.</font>
I have fond memories of flying from SYD to BNE on VH-EAB, back in the silly days of $33 fares, and being seated in the first row in the middle section, aisle seat. Served a delightful smoked salmon dish for the "snack", with an excellent chardonnay, served by the half bottle.

One thing though, you sure that middle section went DEFG? The G seat would he hard up against a well, and having to climb over THREE passengers to get out would not be my idea of fun. My memories are that there were only three seats in that section.

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