New Earning Table (esp Partner Airlines)
Mar 27, 2014, 3:53 am
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Mar 27, 2014, 3:56 am
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I'm now very glad indeed that I stopped crediting to QF when I got to lifetime Silver. I couldn't have foreseen (or even dreamed) any of this, but I fear that the things that drove me away from QF are also driving this.
Incidentally, is it permissible under OW rules to have differential status earn on a route depending on which airline is being "flown"? I'm not familiar enough with schemes that count flown miles (and applicable multiples) for status rather than having a separate status/tier counter.
Mar 27, 2014, 4:00 am
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I have not credited a QF flight to QF ffp in the last 5 years, except for some low priced tickets, that at the time, were non earning on AA
Mar 27, 2014, 4:02 am
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Incidentally, is it permissible under OW rules to have differential status earn on a route depending on which airline is being "flown"? I'm not familiar enough with schemes that count flown miles (and applicable multiples) for status rather than having a separate status/tier counter.
Mileage earn can be different depending on marketing carrier for the same route and booking class.
Elite mileage earn on the likes of AAdvantage and other programs differs based on marketing carrier also.
Mar 27, 2014, 4:09 am
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I just compared the SC earn from the trip I took last year (DAS13+DONE3+5 extra short flights [in L and N] total 31 sectors) and what I can muddle out of the new tables.
CBR-SYD-NRT,HND-HKG-JFK-BOS-JFK-SFO-ORD-RDU-ORD-CLE,DTW-ORD-MIA-BCN-HEL-ARN-HEL-LHR-DXB-LHR-PVG-KUL-SIN-HND-ITM,KIX-TPE-HKG-KUL-SIN-BNE-CBR
QF CBR-NRT, DXB-LHR, SIN-CBR
CX HND-JFK, KIX-KUL
AA JFK-BCN
AY BCN-LHR
BA LHR-DXB, LHR-PVG
MH PVG-KUL, KUL-SIN(x2)
JL SIN-ITM
2440 (old) vs 1880 (new)
CBR-SYD-NRT,HND-HKG-JFK-BOS-JFK-SFO-ORD-RDU-ORD-CLE,DTW-ORD-MIA-BCN-HEL-ARN-HEL-LHR-DXB-LHR-PVG-KUL-SIN-HND-ITM,KIX-TPE-HKG-KUL-SIN-BNE-CBR
QF CBR-NRT, DXB-LHR, SIN-CBR
CX HND-JFK, KIX-KUL
AA JFK-BCN
AY BCN-LHR
BA LHR-DXB, LHR-PVG
MH PVG-KUL, KUL-SIN(x2)
JL SIN-ITM
2440 (old) vs 1880 (new)
Mar 27, 2014, 4:16 am
#23
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Mar 27, 2014, 4:28 am
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I suspect like most on this forum, I'm still trying to get my head around the considerable detail contained in these 'enhancements'. Neither Simple nor Fair from my perspective, but I digress.
Curiously, there seems to be no mention of points earn rates on partner airlines. They've announced new SC earn rates on partner flights, and new points earn rates for QF and JQ flights, but I would have also expected a 'simplification' of mileage earn on partner airlines, unless I've missed something?
Curiously, there seems to be no mention of points earn rates on partner airlines. They've announced new SC earn rates on partner flights, and new points earn rates for QF and JQ flights, but I would have also expected a 'simplification' of mileage earn on partner airlines, unless I've missed something?
Mar 27, 2014, 4:32 am
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Letter from QF
For those who have not received the letter from QF:
Dear Traveloguy,
We know how important it is for you to be rewarded when you fly. It's also important that the reward should reflect the value of your fare. So, we're making changes to how you earn in the air.
It's all about creating a fairer, more simplified program, designed to align the number of Qantas Points1 and Status credits2 you earn more closely with the fare you pay, where you fly and the airline you choose.
Effective for travel from 1 July 2014, the number of Qantas Points and Status credits you earn will change when you fly with Qantas and Jetstar Airlines. Put simply, these changes will mean that you'll earn more Qantas Points and Status credits when you choose more flexible fares. At the same time, we're reducing the Qantas Points you'll earn on our lower fares to reflect your spend.
While we're making changes in the air, rest assured this does not affect your current points balance, or the way you earn with our broad range of partners on the ground. And, when it's time to redeem, there's no change to the number of points you need for a Classic Award3 or how you use your points for your chosen reward.4
Our commitment is to offer you the most comprehensive, rewarding loyalty program in Australia, wherever your journey takes you.
As these and other changes, including Status credit earn with other partner airlines, may affect you, we suggest you take a look at all the details, available on qantas.com
Yours sincerely,
The Qantas Frequent Flyer Team
Originally Posted by QF
Dear Traveloguy,
We know how important it is for you to be rewarded when you fly. It's also important that the reward should reflect the value of your fare. So, we're making changes to how you earn in the air.
It's all about creating a fairer, more simplified program, designed to align the number of Qantas Points1 and Status credits2 you earn more closely with the fare you pay, where you fly and the airline you choose.
Effective for travel from 1 July 2014, the number of Qantas Points and Status credits you earn will change when you fly with Qantas and Jetstar Airlines. Put simply, these changes will mean that you'll earn more Qantas Points and Status credits when you choose more flexible fares. At the same time, we're reducing the Qantas Points you'll earn on our lower fares to reflect your spend.
While we're making changes in the air, rest assured this does not affect your current points balance, or the way you earn with our broad range of partners on the ground. And, when it's time to redeem, there's no change to the number of points you need for a Classic Award3 or how you use your points for your chosen reward.4
Our commitment is to offer you the most comprehensive, rewarding loyalty program in Australia, wherever your journey takes you.
As these and other changes, including Status credit earn with other partner airlines, may affect you, we suggest you take a look at all the details, available on qantas.com
Yours sincerely,
The Qantas Frequent Flyer Team
Mar 27, 2014, 4:34 am
#28
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Credit BA to AA. Full earning on AA plus much better value redemption rates
Mar 27, 2014, 4:46 am
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Overall, it appears to me that if your travelling is predominantly on non-QF/JQ carriers, you will be better of crediting to another programme if you are keen on status.
It appears that changes to points earnings on partner airlines are still to be announced, based on the comments on the partner airlines SC earnings page:
I can't find any references to SC/points earnings on EK. Partner Airlines only refers to OW carriers, plus Fiji Airways. I probably have paid insufficient attention to it, but can you see anything?
It appears that changes to points earnings on partner airlines are still to be announced, based on the comments on the partner airlines SC earnings page:
The way you earn Qantas Points on partner airline flights will transition to the same regional framework as the table above. Please ensure Your Profile is up to date so that we can keep you informed of these changes.