Star Alliance: CDG-North America-Auckland-Asia-CDG 2735€ biz
Mar 11, 2024, 1:33 pm
#616
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I am talking something very simple like AMS-ZRH-LAX-AKL returning AKL-SFO-AMS (all transfers, no stopovers). Even that would not price on GF or any airline site including United, which is usually really good about forcing routing and spec using multi-city search. That's only one more stop than the minimum!
My guess is that it's badly hampered by the routing table which requires things like the LX fare in order to fly that outbound on LX, and specifically SFO-AMS marketed by LH on the LH fare to route (don't think you can get it UA marketed).
If you're getting fancy and routing this via both oceans and stopovers, etc. then I can understand that difficulty. Buy annoying that e.g. it might be too much to get even the above on IAP now.
My guess is that it's badly hampered by the routing table which requires things like the LX fare in order to fly that outbound on LX, and specifically SFO-AMS marketed by LH on the LH fare to route (don't think you can get it UA marketed).
If you're getting fancy and routing this via both oceans and stopovers, etc. then I can understand that difficulty. Buy annoying that e.g. it might be too much to get even the above on IAP now.
Mar 11, 2024, 1:52 pm
#617
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It's a routed fare between AMS and AKL (or various other nearby cities) with published routings via both oceans. It's only turning into a RTW escapade because there are slightly more expensive variants which allow stopovers.
Mar 11, 2024, 4:07 pm
#618
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Apologies for my confusion. As this is a RTW thread I had understood you were trying to book that trip as a RTW and not a convoluted AMS-AKL return flight.
Mar 11, 2024, 4:22 pm
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This is not a RTW thread, it's specifically about Europe to AKL/SYD roundtrips constructed from the relevant fare families.
Mar 11, 2024, 4:31 pm
#620
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Mar 11, 2024, 6:09 pm
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"Star Alliance: CDG-North America-Auckland-Asia-CDG 2735€ biz
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Mar 11, 2024, 6:30 pm
#622
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So you can construct something that looks like a RTW ticket in terms of multiple stops on multiple continents, but it is not a RTW fare and not subject to the typical rules (no specific restrictions on stopovers/transfers, MPM, etc.)
Mar 15, 2024, 10:49 am
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:26 pm
#625
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Hi FT,
I often read but I don't write a lot, sorry.
I booked this fare and I've recently flown. Thanks to share this fare and good ideas.
Ticket LH booked by expédia : FCO FRA HND -Z LH + NH / 3 days / NRT AKL -J NZ / 15 days / AKL SFO -J NZ / 3 days / SFO ZRH FCO -P LX.
Great vacation in NZ and flights were really nice.
If you want to look my experience : go here via flight report (in french, sorry for that).
I often read but I don't write a lot, sorry.
I booked this fare and I've recently flown. Thanks to share this fare and good ideas.
Ticket LH booked by expédia : FCO FRA HND -Z LH + NH / 3 days / NRT AKL -J NZ / 15 days / AKL SFO -J NZ / 3 days / SFO ZRH FCO -P LX.
Great vacation in NZ and flights were really nice.
If you want to look my experience : go here via flight report (in french, sorry for that).
Mar 15, 2024, 1:42 pm
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Mar 15, 2024, 2:38 pm
#627
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EK is listed in the fare rules, but no flights through DXB are allowed. This would indicate that its either an error or we would need to find an EK 5th Freedom Flight. Off the top of my head, I can name two with the A380 and that would be HKG-BKK or MXP-JFK. I haven't found either flight to be available in a Star Alliance code share. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just haven't found it
Mar 20, 2024, 1:42 pm
#628
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Another shout to Nufnuf77 who booked a AMS-SFO-AKL-SFO-AMS for $5500NZD (3100EUR) for next week for me. My next best option was $8,700NZD on Qatar so if you can find P class it's a bargain for a last minute option. Interesting if you booked it straight through it was over 9k but by adding the 'stopovers' of 2-3hrs brought the price down. If you can do the leg work of finding your preferred flights then NufNuf has it sorted in 20min, very impressive. I hope this fare hangs around long term as I'm not too keen having to go back to Chinese carriers for my EU-NZ commute.
Mar 20, 2024, 2:02 pm
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Mar 31, 2024, 2:01 pm
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Has anyone been affected by Air NZ pausing ORD-AKL nonstop and if what did LH reroute you on? I'm wondering if they extend it this winter how they would reroute SYD-AKL-ORD, would prefer ANA through HND over doing customs elsewhere in the US, not sure if LH would offer that as an option as it's not currently allowed.