AM : BCN - GRU $1200-$1400 RT Business (I Class)
#31
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: VIE/PRG
Programs: FB Platinum, Marriott Platinum Elite
Posts: 1,608
No test needed as your final destination is MEX in this case and Mexico does not require anything.
#32
Join Date: Dec 2006
Programs: LH SEN, FB Plat., HH D.
Posts: 5,062
#33
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Netherlands - AMS
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Alaska MVP Gold
Posts: 204
So no test needed in your case.
#34
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Netherlands - AMS
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Alaska MVP Gold
Posts: 204
Personally, I think staying in the terminal is not worth it, there is more than enough time for some fun in CDMX with the timings of the Air France flight
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#35
Join Date: Dec 2006
Programs: LH SEN, FB Plat., HH D.
Posts: 5,062
No real recommendations for this. I decided on staying in the city - it is a cheap and quick Uber away. Stayed in a hostel in the historical centre that I always really enjoy, and had more than enough time for a nice evening walk and some good dinner, and in the morning a beautiful sunrise and breakfast. My favorite neighborhood is probably Roma, a little bit further away but great restaurants and nightlife.
Personally, I think staying in the terminal is not worth it, there is more than enough time for some fun in CDMX with the timings of the Air France flight![Smilie](https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Personally, I think staying in the terminal is not worth it, there is more than enough time for some fun in CDMX with the timings of the Air France flight
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#36
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: AUS
Programs: DL/HH/IHG/BW/Caesar's Diamond (Select), UA 1K, AA EXP, Marriott/MGM Gold, Hertz/Avis PC
Posts: 154
No real recommendations for this. I decided on staying in the city - it is a cheap and quick Uber away. Stayed in a hostel in the historical centre that I always really enjoy, and had more than enough time for a nice evening walk and some good dinner, and in the morning a beautiful sunrise and breakfast. My favorite neighborhood is probably Roma, a little bit further away but great restaurants and nightlife.
Personally, I think staying in the terminal is not worth it, there is more than enough time for some fun in CDMX with the timings of the Air France flight![Smilie](https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Personally, I think staying in the terminal is not worth it, there is more than enough time for some fun in CDMX with the timings of the Air France flight
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#37
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: DTW
Programs: DL DM, National EE, Hertz PC, IHG PL, Bonvoy Amb
Posts: 1,345
I know some of you have already done this as well as SAT-MEX-MAD/BCN, so ....
I am looking for advice on when/what/where tests I should be getting for the following trip.
1/23 Test in Michigan (what type needed for entry to Spain) I could do test in MEX on 1/24. I should probably do both
If I do test in MEX on 1/24, would it be valid to get me into Spain and also into Brazil (flight takes off 1/26, but MEX-GRU is on 1/27)?
Can do test in GRU 1/28 to get into CDG/BCN 1/30
Test in MEX on 1/29 or 2/1 to get back into US on 2/1
DTW-SAT 1/23 9PM-11:30PM
SAT-MEX 1/24 1:15PM-3:25PM
MEX-MAD 1/24 7:10PM-1:00PM (1/25)
MAD-BCN 1/25 3:10PM-4:30PM
BCN-CDG 1/26 6PM-8PM
CDG-MEX 1/26 11PM-4:25AM (1/27)
MEX-GRU 1/27 10:15AM -11PM
GRU-MEX 1/29 9:55AM-4:15PM
MEX-CDG 1/29 10:45PM-4:25PM (1/30)
CDG-BCN 1/30 9:05PM-10:55PM
BCN-MAD 1/31 8:30PM-10PM
MAD-MEX 1/31 11:20PM-4:45AM (2/1)
MEX-SAT 2/1 9:50AM-12:00PM
SAT-DTW 2/1 3:30PM-7:30PM
I am looking for advice on when/what/where tests I should be getting for the following trip.
1/23 Test in Michigan (what type needed for entry to Spain) I could do test in MEX on 1/24. I should probably do both
If I do test in MEX on 1/24, would it be valid to get me into Spain and also into Brazil (flight takes off 1/26, but MEX-GRU is on 1/27)?
Can do test in GRU 1/28 to get into CDG/BCN 1/30
Test in MEX on 1/29 or 2/1 to get back into US on 2/1
DTW-SAT 1/23 9PM-11:30PM
SAT-MEX 1/24 1:15PM-3:25PM
MEX-MAD 1/24 7:10PM-1:00PM (1/25)
MAD-BCN 1/25 3:10PM-4:30PM
BCN-CDG 1/26 6PM-8PM
CDG-MEX 1/26 11PM-4:25AM (1/27)
MEX-GRU 1/27 10:15AM -11PM
GRU-MEX 1/29 9:55AM-4:15PM
MEX-CDG 1/29 10:45PM-4:25PM (1/30)
CDG-BCN 1/30 9:05PM-10:55PM
BCN-MAD 1/31 8:30PM-10PM
MAD-MEX 1/31 11:20PM-4:45AM (2/1)
MEX-SAT 2/1 9:50AM-12:00PM
SAT-DTW 2/1 3:30PM-7:30PM
#38
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: AUS
Programs: DL/HH/IHG/BW/Caesar's Diamond (Select), UA 1K, AA EXP, Marriott/MGM Gold, Hertz/Avis PC
Posts: 154
I know some of you have already done this as well as SAT-MEX-MAD/BCN, so ....
I am looking for advice on when/what/where tests I should be getting for the following trip.
1/23 Test in Michigan (what type needed for entry to Spain) I could do test in MEX on 1/24. I should probably do both
If I do test in MEX on 1/24, would it be valid to get me into Spain and also into Brazil (flight takes off 1/26, but MEX-GRU is on 1/27)?
Can do test in GRU 1/28 to get into CDG/BCN 1/30
Test in MEX on 1/29 or 2/1 to get back into US on 2/1
DTW-SAT 1/23 9PM-11:30PM
SAT-MEX 1/24 1:15PM-3:25PM
MEX-MAD 1/24 7:10PM-1:00PM (1/25)
MAD-BCN 1/25 3:10PM-4:30PM
BCN-CDG 1/26 6PM-8PM
CDG-MEX 1/26 11PM-4:25AM (1/27)
MEX-GRU 1/27 10:15AM -11PM
GRU-MEX 1/29 9:55AM-4:15PM
MEX-CDG 1/29 10:45PM-4:25PM (1/30)
CDG-BCN 1/30 9:05PM-10:55PM
BCN-MAD 1/31 8:30PM-10PM
MAD-MEX 1/31 11:20PM-4:45AM (2/1)
MEX-SAT 2/1 9:50AM-12:00PM
SAT-DTW 2/1 3:30PM-7:30PM
I am looking for advice on when/what/where tests I should be getting for the following trip.
1/23 Test in Michigan (what type needed for entry to Spain) I could do test in MEX on 1/24. I should probably do both
If I do test in MEX on 1/24, would it be valid to get me into Spain and also into Brazil (flight takes off 1/26, but MEX-GRU is on 1/27)?
Can do test in GRU 1/28 to get into CDG/BCN 1/30
Test in MEX on 1/29 or 2/1 to get back into US on 2/1
DTW-SAT 1/23 9PM-11:30PM
SAT-MEX 1/24 1:15PM-3:25PM
MEX-MAD 1/24 7:10PM-1:00PM (1/25)
MAD-BCN 1/25 3:10PM-4:30PM
BCN-CDG 1/26 6PM-8PM
CDG-MEX 1/26 11PM-4:25AM (1/27)
MEX-GRU 1/27 10:15AM -11PM
GRU-MEX 1/29 9:55AM-4:15PM
MEX-CDG 1/29 10:45PM-4:25PM (1/30)
CDG-BCN 1/30 9:05PM-10:55PM
BCN-MAD 1/31 8:30PM-10PM
MAD-MEX 1/31 11:20PM-4:45AM (2/1)
MEX-SAT 2/1 9:50AM-12:00PM
SAT-DTW 2/1 3:30PM-7:30PM
#40
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: DTW
Programs: DL DM, National EE, Hertz PC, IHG PL, Bonvoy Amb
Posts: 1,345
You won't need a test to enter Mexico or Spain. So my understanding of French airside transfers per the Paris airport website is that you will need to get your first covid test at BCN due to Brazil requiring it. You'll then need an additional test taken at MAD to reenter the US. This is assuming you are vaccinated, of course.The Brazilian test needs to be a 72 hour or sooner PCR and the US test can be PCR or antigen and 24 hours prior to departure.
#41
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: LHR / BHX / MAN / ATL
Programs: DL DM 2MM - IHG Diamond
Posts: 4,056
I highly recommend the IC in GRU. I had the best, most personalized service there of any IC I've stayed at. Every time I came thru the lobby, I was greeted by name. Added bonus - the IC is in a great area within walking distance to lots of restaurants.
#42
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 17,190
The IC is far nicer hotel, certainly a grade up from the Hilton, and just a block down from Paulista. A bonus is it's on the route of the airport bus, and a Metro station is only a block or so away. You might need Ambassador membership to be sure of an upgrade. Of course the Hilton would give you lounge and breakfast as a Diamond, but the lounge is rough compared to the one at the IC. i don't know the IC policy of giving lounge access below Royal Ambassador level, but it's a delightful space, certainly worth asking about and maybe considering an upsell for a least one night.
#43
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: AUS
Programs: DL/HH/IHG/BW/Caesar's Diamond (Select), UA 1K, AA EXP, Marriott/MGM Gold, Hertz/Avis PC
Posts: 154
Forget the Hilton, unless there's a particular reason you need the Morumbi location, a good 10 km from downtown.
The IC is far nicer hotel, certainly a grade up from the Hilton, and just a block down from Paulista. A bonus is it's on the route of the airport bus, and a Metro station is only a block or so away. You might need Ambassador membership to be sure of an upgrade. Of course the Hilton would give you lounge and breakfast as a Diamond, but the lounge is rough compared to the one at the IC. i don't know the IC policy of giving lounge access below Royal Ambassador level, but it's a delightful space, certainly worth asking about and maybe considering an upsell for a least one night.
The IC is far nicer hotel, certainly a grade up from the Hilton, and just a block down from Paulista. A bonus is it's on the route of the airport bus, and a Metro station is only a block or so away. You might need Ambassador membership to be sure of an upgrade. Of course the Hilton would give you lounge and breakfast as a Diamond, but the lounge is rough compared to the one at the IC. i don't know the IC policy of giving lounge access below Royal Ambassador level, but it's a delightful space, certainly worth asking about and maybe considering an upsell for a least one night.
I'll have to look into the airport bus because I was just considering asking the hotel to book me a car so I wouldn't have to figure out the transportation system but if it's super easy then why not save there too
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#44
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Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 17,190
Hotel cars will be expensive. The airport taxi service isn't cheap, but it should easily beat the hotels rate. The taxi system is simple, tell them at the desk where you want to go, buy a ticket, and you have your taxi. There's really no need to tip (though they won't refuse
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I'd forget about Hilton presidential suites! The only Morumbi thing I can think of that might carry the vaguest interest for a tourist is Ayrton Senna's grave.
#45
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Netherlands - AMS
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Alaska MVP Gold
Posts: 204
It is definitely important to stay in the right area to properly enjoy São Paulo (which is, in my opinion, a great city).
I would suggest either around Paulista avenue or within Vila Madalena/some good part of Pinheiros. This whole area is easy to cover by Uber. I especially enjoyed staying within Vila Madalena, a very safe, lively and relaxed area full of great restaurants, bars, nightlife and nice street art. Can't comment on points hotels.
I would suggest Uber for getting around. A Uber from GRU is very easy and cheap (the airport wifi works perfectly fine if you don't have data), and within the city it often is only marginally more expensive then public transport for shorter distances.
I would suggest either around Paulista avenue or within Vila Madalena/some good part of Pinheiros. This whole area is easy to cover by Uber. I especially enjoyed staying within Vila Madalena, a very safe, lively and relaxed area full of great restaurants, bars, nightlife and nice street art. Can't comment on points hotels.
I would suggest Uber for getting around. A Uber from GRU is very easy and cheap (the airport wifi works perfectly fine if you don't have data), and within the city it often is only marginally more expensive then public transport for shorter distances.