TSA cannot be trusted!
Nov 13, 2003 | 2:01 pm
#31
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by The Unknown Screener:
Now Spiff. What is more American that following the directions that Congress has laid out. I think to do otherwise would be "un-american." Where would we be if everyone decided what directions from our elected officials we would follow and which ones we would not? Why, even Patrick Henry would be aghast at that prospect, for it tears at the very fabric that our nation was founded upon....a "representative" republic.
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Now Spiff. What is more American that following the directions that Congress has laid out. I think to do otherwise would be "un-american." Where would we be if everyone decided what directions from our elected officials we would follow and which ones we would not? Why, even Patrick Henry would be aghast at that prospect, for it tears at the very fabric that our nation was founded upon....a "representative" republic.
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Slavery, which was legitimized through many acts of Congress should never have been abolished, eh? And women should be re-disenfranchised because prior Congresses did not recognize their right to suffrage.
Congress said it was to be so? Let no one question their directives!!!
Now about this 'abortion issue'...
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Nov 13, 2003 | 2:19 pm
#32
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Spiff:
You're right.
Slavery, which was legitimized through many acts of Congress should never have been abolished, eh? And women should be re-disenfranchised because prior Congresses did not recognize their right to suffrage.
Congress said it was to be so? Let no one question their directives!!!
Now about this 'abortion issue'...
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You're right.
Slavery, which was legitimized through many acts of Congress should never have been abolished, eh? And women should be re-disenfranchised because prior Congresses did not recognize their right to suffrage.
Congress said it was to be so? Let no one question their directives!!!
Now about this 'abortion issue'...
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There is hope for you yet.....
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Nov 13, 2003 | 2:28 pm
#33
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"You security guys are starting to see how frustrated we get with the stupid TSA policies. Good for you!!!"
You don't think we're upset to? I think every screener here has shown their frustrate with TSA for months.
How about you work for TSA and understand where the screners are coming from.
You don't think we're upset to? I think every screener here has shown their frustrate with TSA for months.
How about you work for TSA and understand where the screners are coming from.
Nov 13, 2003 | 2:31 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by screenerx:
Carmel,
Read to me where I stated for you trust me?
Thats right I didn't. I'm tired of what you seem to think are witting come backs. Troll another board would you.
Also to clear up that sentence for everyone,
Pretty much what Im saying is your not ever given a TSA policy or your given only half the policy. What Im saying is that only so many people know that. The FF's know it, and its great. But the fact is I deal with people like CarmelGreg more on a day to day basis, who think that the policy given to them is the whole policy and will flash it out on us, saying we have no reason to screen them, since they didn't ring. (Spiff, I know. We don't have a reason adn you shouldn't be checked but TSA higher ups, have deemed it so.)
From this point on Carmel, I'll ignore but you proably wanted that, so what does it matter.</font>
Carmel,
Read to me where I stated for you trust me?
Thats right I didn't. I'm tired of what you seem to think are witting come backs. Troll another board would you.
Also to clear up that sentence for everyone,
Pretty much what Im saying is your not ever given a TSA policy or your given only half the policy. What Im saying is that only so many people know that. The FF's know it, and its great. But the fact is I deal with people like CarmelGreg more on a day to day basis, who think that the policy given to them is the whole policy and will flash it out on us, saying we have no reason to screen them, since they didn't ring. (Spiff, I know. We don't have a reason adn you shouldn't be checked but TSA higher ups, have deemed it so.)
From this point on Carmel, I'll ignore but you proably wanted that, so what does it matter.</font>
To clarify for you re: trusting the TSA;
read the title of this thread. My statement "We're suppose to trust the Goon outfit called TSA" is just that, a statement. Not a question. We ARE suppose to trust them, aren't we? (That is a question).
I've toned it down with you fellas over the past few weeks, how about some of the same my way?
Nov 14, 2003 | 4:11 am
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Wait till they meet the new partimers.
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by screenerx:
"You security guys are starting to see how frustrated we get with the stupid TSA policies. Good for you!!!"
You don't think we're upset to? I think every screener here has shown their frustrate with TSA for months.
How about you work for TSA and understand where the screners are coming from. </font>
"You security guys are starting to see how frustrated we get with the stupid TSA policies. Good for you!!!"
You don't think we're upset to? I think every screener here has shown their frustrate with TSA for months.
How about you work for TSA and understand where the screners are coming from. </font>
Nov 15, 2003 | 7:01 pm
#36
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You know it doesn't does not really matter what we do at the TSA the terrorist have already won the War on terror. Most people either don't know or don't understand the purpose of a terrorist attack. It not o kill people it is to make people scared. If you look up terrorist in the dictionary it says "one who uses or favors terrorizing methods" terrorism says " a state of fear and submission so produced" they tried back in the late 80 early 90 the fist attack on the trade center but we proud americans said those people are stupid to think they could do anything to us. Well the sure proved us wrong now they have won the battle and the war. So no matter what we do we will always be looking over our shoulder
Nov 16, 2003 | 12:21 pm
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And your agency's reaction to the terrorists is nothing short of complicity in the terrorism process.
Your leaders are as guilty as the terrorists are.
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Your leaders are as guilty as the terrorists are.
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Nov 19, 2003 | 9:40 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Fenito:
I don't know how it is at every airport, but I will say that I trust my fellow employees to not take anything. We make more than enough to provide ourselves with whatever we need to survive. As for going through a photo album, or looking at a dress or somethin? We do have to flip through books, cd cases, etc... but it should not take 3 minutes to do so. I will, however, make the stand to support my fellow honorable screeners which make up the majority of the TSA. But like they say, one bad apple spoils the bunch.</font>
I don't know how it is at every airport, but I will say that I trust my fellow employees to not take anything. We make more than enough to provide ourselves with whatever we need to survive. As for going through a photo album, or looking at a dress or somethin? We do have to flip through books, cd cases, etc... but it should not take 3 minutes to do so. I will, however, make the stand to support my fellow honorable screeners which make up the majority of the TSA. But like they say, one bad apple spoils the bunch.</font>
Nov 19, 2003 | 9:56 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Arcolaio99:
We can fix the whole bunch by getting rid of the TSA. Bring back the private companies.</font>
We can fix the whole bunch by getting rid of the TSA. Bring back the private companies.</font>
When was the last time the gov't "deleted" an entire agency? I don't mean realigned or folded into another, I mean completely disbanded and all functions turned over to the private sector.
It has never happened to my knowledge and I seriously doubt it ever will. No, private screeners are not the answer, for they are merely the tail of the snake you so despise, the head lies within the gov't.
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Nov 19, 2003 | 10:21 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by The Unknown Screener:
Even if they do bring the private companies back, the gov't will keep their hand on the till and continue to make the policy. The TSA as an agency within the gov't is not going to go anywhere.
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Even if they do bring the private companies back, the gov't will keep their hand on the till and continue to make the policy. The TSA as an agency within the gov't is not going to go anywhere.
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And they will be ACCOUNTABLE unlike the fleecing farce known as TSA.
Nov 19, 2003 | 10:26 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CarmelGreg:
At least private screening company's will treat us as CUSTOMERS not terrorist. They know the hand that feeds them and know poor performance will mean no contract renewal.
And they will be ACCOUNTABLE unlike the fleecing farce known as TSA.</font>
At least private screening company's will treat us as CUSTOMERS not terrorist. They know the hand that feeds them and know poor performance will mean no contract renewal.
And they will be ACCOUNTABLE unlike the fleecing farce known as TSA.</font>
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Nov 19, 2003 | 10:33 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by The Unknown Screener:
The TSA is accountable,
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The TSA is accountable,
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You don't even work for them so give it a rest, change your screen name to reflect what you are. How about "All American" or USAF_X-TSA and come join us in TSA bashing.
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Nov 19, 2003 | 10:56 am
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"At least private screening company's will treat us as CUSTOMERS not terrorist. They know the hand that feeds them and know poor performance will mean no contract renewal.
And they will be ACCOUNTABLE unlike the fleecing farce known as TSA."
I'll agree with you Carmel, they will treat you as customers. But if they get to nice and one of the TSA shadows doesn't like it, they will just do what they did before TSA took over airports, force their will on the private company.
I hope if does go private, that TSA isn't involved like it was right after 9/11. They pretty much loved to point every little flaw and how this could be a breach or this could be a breach and so on. But then you join TSA and the same problems exist.
I also hope that GSC's are on the checkpoints again. That way if that person doesn't think you should fly for how your treating screeners or passengers, they will tell you to pack your bags and leave. (GSC= Ground Security Cordinator aka Airline Rep who is usually a Supervisor for the Airline or Airlines in the concourse)
I would love to see a private company back in place, but if it's anything like mine was then I would feel bad for the workers and the passengers. Because mine pissed off so many workers, that the passenger had to put up with some of the after effects.
And they will be ACCOUNTABLE unlike the fleecing farce known as TSA."
I'll agree with you Carmel, they will treat you as customers. But if they get to nice and one of the TSA shadows doesn't like it, they will just do what they did before TSA took over airports, force their will on the private company.
I hope if does go private, that TSA isn't involved like it was right after 9/11. They pretty much loved to point every little flaw and how this could be a breach or this could be a breach and so on. But then you join TSA and the same problems exist.
I also hope that GSC's are on the checkpoints again. That way if that person doesn't think you should fly for how your treating screeners or passengers, they will tell you to pack your bags and leave. (GSC= Ground Security Cordinator aka Airline Rep who is usually a Supervisor for the Airline or Airlines in the concourse)
I would love to see a private company back in place, but if it's anything like mine was then I would feel bad for the workers and the passengers. Because mine pissed off so many workers, that the passenger had to put up with some of the after effects.
Nov 19, 2003 | 1:12 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CarmelGreg:
The TSA wants me to leave my luggage UNLOCKED but will not be accountable for damaged or missing items. BS! They are not accountable.
You don't even work for them so give it a rest, change your screen name to reflect what you are. How about "All American" or USAF_X-TSA and come join us in TSA bashing.
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The TSA wants me to leave my luggage UNLOCKED but will not be accountable for damaged or missing items. BS! They are not accountable.
You don't even work for them so give it a rest, change your screen name to reflect what you are. How about "All American" or USAF_X-TSA and come join us in TSA bashing.
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Nov 19, 2003 | 1:39 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by The Unknown Screener:
I have never agreed with the unlocking of bags, but I do understand the reasoning behind it.
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I have never agreed with the unlocking of bags, but I do understand the reasoning behind it.
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I also understand the reasoning behind this policy and that reason is NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! Their reasoning is not logical. Just like shoe removal. Not logical. Unless you can't find the metal which caused the alarm. Don't forget to look at my BP/ID several times.