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Old Mar 24, 2011, 11:39 am
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A bit off topic - at SFO last Friday (March 18) I saw a TSA K9 officer patrolling with his dog near the check-ins. Is this another example of SFO going its own way ?
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 11:40 am
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Clerk: State your name.
Me: Oh bless your heart, its a shame you can't read. Have you looked into some adult education classes?
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox
A bit off topic - at SFO last Friday (March 18) I saw a TSA K9 officer patrolling with his dog near the check-ins. Is this another example of SFO going its own way ?
No -- rather it's an example of SFO going more and more toward delivering on whatever show the TSA fancies.
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox
A bit off topic - at SFO last Friday (March 18) I saw a TSA K9 officer patrolling with his dog near the check-ins. Is this another example of SFO going its own way ?
I'd call that another act of the dog and pony show... but I wouldn't think it was fair to call the poor German Shepherd a pony.
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 4:14 pm
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Flying out of SFO on Sunday. I'll see if the clerks at the UA elite line (domestic) ask me my name.. I'll report back.
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by JoeBas
I'd call that another act of the dog and pony show... but I wouldn't think it was fair to call the poor German Shepherd a pony.
Indeed. And it would be another dog act part of the clownish TSA dog and pony show.

Sniffing dogs might be useful in protecting some protected individuals -- for a defined period of time -- in a fixed place from some kinds of bomb attacks; but as a measure to protect the general public at a public facility with a lot of free persons moving in and out of the area who have not been screened (for a far wider array of explosives) at a checkpoint, the animals might be no more effective than babies standing in the TSA shoes with their toys.
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by ND Sol
Except in very limited circumstances, the FSD may not unilaterally change the TSA SOP to make it more restrictive. For example:
4.3.19. EXERCISE OF FSD DISCRETION

Situations may arise which merit a temporary, short-term deviation from established security procedures. Where an articulable risk-based assessment supports a temporary deviation from such procedures, an FSD only (or the Acting FSD) has the authority to proceed as good judgment warrants.

A. An FSD (or Acting FSD) must be prepared to provide a well-reasoned justification for any deviation. For instance, where the presence at the checkpoint of an elected official or other trustworthy person of notoriety has the potential of creating a distraction that might lessen security, escort of the passenger and accompanying family members directly into the sterile area might be justified.

B. An FSD (or Acting FSD) should not exercise the discretion to deviate from established procedures where any doubt exists that aviation safety or national security might be compromised. Where such doubt exists, prior approval of the Area Director should be obtained.
Bolding mine: SO if a TSO violates policy, can I ask said TSO if they rec'd permission from the FSD to do so?
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Hedwigkin
Which languages are acceptable?

Is American Sign Language acceptable?
The sign using a single finger.
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 7:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Rockett0
Clerk: State your name.
Me: Oh bless your heart, its a shame you can't read. Have you looked into some adult education classes?
I could so do that:

"Let me help you out. You just have to compare the letters on this piece of paper - here: S, M, I, T, H - with the ones on this piece of paper - here: S, M, I... You do know your letters, right? The squiggly one there, that's an 'S'..."

At this point, if I'm holding up the line (I guess so ) I'd turn to the person behind me and say in my sweetest voice, "Isn't it great that the government can provide jobs for people with no education?"

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Old Mar 24, 2011, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Rockett0
Clerk: State your name.
Me: Oh bless your heart, its a shame you can't read. Have you looked into some adult education classes?
That is exactly how to respond here. They can't say you are being "belligerent" or anything of the sort.
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Old Mar 24, 2011, 11:41 pm
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
I could so do that:

"Let me help you out. You just have to compare the letters on this piece of paper - here: S, M, I, T, H - with the ones on this piece of paper - here: S, M, I... You do know your letters, right? The squiggly one there, that's an 'S'..."

At this point, if I'm holding up the line (I guess so ) I'd turn to the person behind me and say in my sweetest voice, "Isn't it great that the government can provide jobs for people with no education?"

ROFLMAO - well just shot a Dublin Dr. Pepper through my nose reading that. I would film that in a heartbeat and I bet there are people that would pay money to see that video.
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Old Mar 25, 2011, 12:05 am
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Data Point -

It just happened to me on T3 AA, mar-25 10pm.

TSA - What is your last name?
ME - It says right there (pointing to the DL + BP) "last name"
TSA - It's protocol. I have to ask you.


Simply unreal.

--J
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Old Mar 25, 2011, 12:05 am
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Originally Posted by Scubatooth
ROFLMAO - well just shot a Dublin Dr. Pepper through my nose reading that. I would film that in a heartbeat and I bet there are people that would pay money to see that video.
Are you filming yourself shooting Dr Pepper through your nose, or my attempt to educate a TDC? Obviously, either one would be entertaining. In the latter case, the role of RadioGirl should be played by Miranda Otto, who looks just like me.* The TDC can be played by Spongebob Squarepants.

*And if you believe that, try this one: TSA cares deeply about your rights.
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Old Mar 25, 2011, 12:53 am
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I'll set my iPhone to record as I go through the TDC at SFO.. Should be interesting to replay the over reaction..
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Old Mar 25, 2011, 12:57 am
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Originally Posted by jcf27
Data Point -

It just happened to me on T3 AA, mar-25 10pm.

TSA - What is your last name?
ME - It says right there (pointing to the DL + BP) "last name"
TSA - It's protocol. I have to ask you.


Simply unreal.

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