To be fair: Not everybody hates the TSA
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OP's survey seems to me like asking around in the office from colleagues 'Do you like me?' That puts people in the position of having to decide if they wish to be honest, or to continue to have a future good working relationship with the person.
In OP's case, as they are in a position of authority over the survey respondents, it is akin to the boss asking the subordinates 'Do you like me?' How does one expect the respondents to answer that question?
In fact, I believe that there may have been an episode of The Office centred around this very scenario.
In OP's case, as they are in a position of authority over the survey respondents, it is akin to the boss asking the subordinates 'Do you like me?' How does one expect the respondents to answer that question?
In fact, I believe that there may have been an episode of The Office centred around this very scenario.
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However, it does amaze me at the absolute arrogance here (NOT talking about you, CM, just in general). Despite what you think I and other employees are thanked on a daily basis. It does NOT mean everyone who thanks me agrees with all TSA policy; I would bet they do not.
But what amazes me is how the collective you dismiss such people, as I've seen you do so many times in other threads. I guess not many of you can actually see someone saying/believing "I don't agree with this policy, in fact I think it's stupid, but i support TSA in overall".
Just read through the threads where the FT community talks about the comments people make supportive of TSA in the media - contempt, dismissal, disdain.
Believe it or not, not everyone agrees with you. And surprising, they do not have to agree with you.
But what amazes me is how the collective you dismiss such people, as I've seen you do so many times in other threads. I guess not many of you can actually see someone saying/believing "I don't agree with this policy, in fact I think it's stupid, but i support TSA in overall".
Just read through the threads where the FT community talks about the comments people make supportive of TSA in the media - contempt, dismissal, disdain.
Believe it or not, not everyone agrees with you. And surprising, they do not have to agree with you.
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I know of no one who says I support TSA & I've got a feeling you don't either unless people tell you that & you believe them.
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However, it does amaze me at the absolute arrogance here (NOT talking about you, CM, just in general). Despite what you think I and other employees are thanked on a daily basis. It does NOT mean everyone who thanks me agrees with all TSA policy; I would bet they do not.
But what amazes me is how the collective you dismiss such people, as I've seen you do so many times in other threads. I guess not many of you can actually see someone saying/believing "I don't agree with this policy, in fact I think it's stupid, but i support TSA in overall".
Just read through the threads where the FT community talks about the comments people make supportive of TSA in the media - contempt, dismissal, disdain.
Believe it or not, not everyone agrees with you. And surprising, they do not have to agree with you.
But what amazes me is how the collective you dismiss such people, as I've seen you do so many times in other threads. I guess not many of you can actually see someone saying/believing "I don't agree with this policy, in fact I think it's stupid, but i support TSA in overall".
Just read through the threads where the FT community talks about the comments people make supportive of TSA in the media - contempt, dismissal, disdain.
Believe it or not, not everyone agrees with you. And surprising, they do not have to agree with you.
Once I have cleared the checkpoint, the stress isn't over. Now I can get my drink (overly expensive, purchased in the sterile area) taken for testing when I'm sitting at the gate. This after a group of four TSOs cut to the front of the line at the coffee stand. Then I have to be prepared to shift any valuables from my rollaboard to my small bag at the last minute if a gate check delays me so much that the overhead bin space is gone before I board.
Yes, sometimes I'm almost grateful just to get through without being the specific target of a TSOs over-irritated impatient barking and swaggering.
Honestly, I would think TSOs would stop all the barking just to improve their own quality of life in the workplace.
It's not the ostensible goal of TSA (safe flights) that folks complain about, it's the implementation. Unfortunately, most folks don't distinguish between the noble aims of the organization and the implementation they confront at the airport. I do not know any 'Kettle' of my acquaintance who considers the checkpoints and gate checks and liquids in the terminal checks and cutoff locks as anything but a huge unprofessional hassle. I don't know anyone who thinks all the yelling helps.
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#52
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However, it does amaze me at the absolute arrogance here (NOT talking about you, CM, just in general). Despite what you think I and other employees are thanked on a daily basis. It does NOT mean everyone who thanks me agrees with all TSA policy; I would bet they do not.
But what amazes me is how the collective you dismiss such people, as I've seen you do so many times in other threads. I guess not many of you can actually see someone saying/believing "I don't agree with this policy, in fact I think it's stupid, but i support TSA in overall".
Just read through the threads where the FT community talks about the comments people make supportive of TSA in the media - contempt, dismissal, disdain.
Believe it or not, not everyone agrees with you. And surprising, they do not have to agree with you.
But what amazes me is how the collective you dismiss such people, as I've seen you do so many times in other threads. I guess not many of you can actually see someone saying/believing "I don't agree with this policy, in fact I think it's stupid, but i support TSA in overall".
Just read through the threads where the FT community talks about the comments people make supportive of TSA in the media - contempt, dismissal, disdain.
Believe it or not, not everyone agrees with you. And surprising, they do not have to agree with you.
I don't believe that Argenbright had the same reputation, nor does airport security in most other countries have the same reputation.
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I don't believe that the vast majority of posters here woke up one day and decided that they didn't like TSA. Something drove most people to that point. TSA didn't earn its reputation by being polite and respectful and logical and effective.
I don't believe that Argenbright had the same reputation, nor does airport security in most other countries have the same reputation.
I don't believe that Argenbright had the same reputation, nor does airport security in most other countries have the same reputation.
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Almost ten years on and the TSA has nothing to show for the billions of dollars that have been wasted on them.
So, yes, I can believe the flag wavers politely say "That you for protecting me", but they don't know they have been had. The truly sad part of this, is even when TSA is finally revealed to have no clothes, there will still be no righteous anger. They will go with a whimper, not a bang.
When we're out of Afghanistan and the jihadi rhetoric has nothing left on which to feed, the TSA budget will be slowly siphoned away for other pet projects. Then will come the call to privatize and Argenbrite will quietly take back the reins.
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However, it does amaze me at the absolute arrogance here (NOT talking about you, CM, just in general). Despite what you think I and other employees are thanked on a daily basis. It does NOT mean everyone who thanks me agrees with all TSA policy; I would bet they do not.
But what amazes me is how the collective you dismiss such people, as I've seen you do so many times in other threads. I guess not many of you can actually see someone saying/believing "I don't agree with this policy, in fact I think it's stupid, but i support TSA in overall".
Just read through the threads where the FT community talks about the comments people make supportive of TSA in the media - contempt, dismissal, disdain.
Believe it or not, not everyone agrees with you. And surprising, they do not have to agree with you.
But what amazes me is how the collective you dismiss such people, as I've seen you do so many times in other threads. I guess not many of you can actually see someone saying/believing "I don't agree with this policy, in fact I think it's stupid, but i support TSA in overall".
Just read through the threads where the FT community talks about the comments people make supportive of TSA in the media - contempt, dismissal, disdain.
Believe it or not, not everyone agrees with you. And surprising, they do not have to agree with you.
Your agency violates the US Constitution by the mere act of existing but some people will still accept that because they need a security blanket.
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"I don't agree with this policy, in fact I think it's stupid, but i support reasonable airport security overall."
Of course, the trouble lies with what the TSA considers reasonable.
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Since I am reading about a lot of people saying that they work closely with aviation and everyone that they talk to in their circles tell them that they hate TSA. I have started to ask people that I work around about TSA. I have asked pilots, flight attendants, vendors etc. While I have gotten some interesting responses, NOT one of them has said anything close to what some of you are saying. The very constitution that you say is being trashed when you fly is also the basis for which TSA has to do some of what it does.
Yeah, right. The only people who hate the TSA are those of us who actually come in contact with them. Those who do not fly seem to think that the TSA is just peachy.
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