Millimeter wave and backscatter at FLL
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I unfortunately ran into them last Wednesday (Concourse E). They're being used as primary. Of course, I was chosen while waiting to go through the WTMD. Opted out (the TSOs seemed shocked) and took the patdown, which was so thorough I thought about asking for a cigarette afterwards.
I was not given the option to take my posessions along with me. Luckily my wife was there to pick up everything (of course, that left her to deal with our 14 month old along with all the stuff, by herself).
I was not given the option to take my posessions along with me. Luckily my wife was there to pick up everything (of course, that left her to deal with our 14 month old along with all the stuff, by herself).
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I unfortunately ran into them last Wednesday (Concourse E). They're being used as primary. Of course, I was chosen while waiting to go through the WTMD. Opted out (the TSOs seemed shocked) and took the patdown, which was so thorough I thought about asking for a cigarette afterwards.
I was not given the option to take my posessions along with me. Luckily my wife was there to pick up everything (of course, that left her to deal with our 14 month old along with all the stuff, by herself).
I was not given the option to take my posessions along with me. Luckily my wife was there to pick up everything (of course, that left her to deal with our 14 month old along with all the stuff, by herself).
#18
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The bags were in my line of sight, but not in front of me. I'd have liked them to take them over, if only so my wife didn't have to deal with the bags and the kid. But if I was by myself, yeah, they would've been there.
The TSOs really did seem confused by my opting out. I'm not sure how many opt-outs they deal with. They had to call the supervisor and search for a male TSO who could pat me down. Plus one of the TSOs asked me "you're opting out?" in the most confused-sounding voice.
The TSOs really did seem confused by my opting out. I'm not sure how many opt-outs they deal with. They had to call the supervisor and search for a male TSO who could pat me down. Plus one of the TSOs asked me "you're opting out?" in the most confused-sounding voice.
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Just passed through FLL Terminal 1 West (CO/VX), and the machines are installed and running.
Very few people asked to go through (I think I only saw 1 or 2). Be prepared when flying CO/VX from FLL - these are among the worst TSA screeners and you will need to be vocal and firm about refusing your x-ray.
Very few people asked to go through (I think I only saw 1 or 2). Be prepared when flying CO/VX from FLL - these are among the worst TSA screeners and you will need to be vocal and firm about refusing your x-ray.
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The bags were in my line of sight, but not in front of me. I'd have liked them to take them over, if only so my wife didn't have to deal with the bags and the kid. But if I was by myself, yeah, they would've been there.
The TSOs really did seem confused by my opting out. I'm not sure how many opt-outs they deal with. They had to call the supervisor and search for a male TSO who could pat me down. Plus one of the TSOs asked me "you're opting out?" in the most confused-sounding voice.
The TSOs really did seem confused by my opting out. I'm not sure how many opt-outs they deal with. They had to call the supervisor and search for a male TSO who could pat me down. Plus one of the TSOs asked me "you're opting out?" in the most confused-sounding voice.
)*i ask every time but......
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Went through FLL F gates last evening. Two Backscatter Human Xray devices installed. Traffic was low so no backup. TSA guy was directing people to the screening lanes. I was directed to WTMD but told the guy I would not go through Backscatter to see he took notice. A lady (pregnant) just in front of me refused the Backscatter Porno Strip Search and a pat down was called for. The only signage I noticed was images on the side of the machines. I saw nothing indicating a person has a choice to OPT OUT.
Seems TSA is forcing people to be screened by WBI.
FLL E Gates also has two Backscatters installed. Long lines at that gate. Saw several guys all in wheelchairs going to the E lines. I cannot imagine the hell TSA put these guys through.
Seems TSA is forcing people to be screened by WBI.
FLL E Gates also has two Backscatters installed. Long lines at that gate. Saw several guys all in wheelchairs going to the E lines. I cannot imagine the hell TSA put these guys through.
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Went through FLL F gates last evening. Two Backscatter Human Xray devices installed. Traffic was low so no backup. TSA guy was directing people to the screening lanes. I was directed to WTMD but told the guy I would not go through Backscatter to see he took notice. A lady (pregnant) just in front of me refused the Backscatter Porno Strip Search and a pat down was called for. The only signage I noticed was images on the side of the machines. I saw nothing indicating a person has a choice to OPT OUT.
Seems TSA is forcing people to be screened by WBI.
FLL E Gates also has two Backscatters installed. Long lines at that gate. Saw several guys all in wheelchairs going to the E lines. I cannot imagine the hell TSA put these guys through.
Seems TSA is forcing people to be screened by WBI.
FLL E Gates also has two Backscatters installed. Long lines at that gate. Saw several guys all in wheelchairs going to the E lines. I cannot imagine the hell TSA put these guys through.
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Backscatter is being used in terminal 2 (Delta / Air Canada). There is a small sign explaining the opt out just before you walk into the wtmd/backscatter area. I went towards the Metal Detector instead and they were perfectly fine with it. Looked to be sending about half the people toward the backscatter machine.
The backscatter process looked to be very timeconsuming and the way they had it positioned limited access to the end of the baggage scanner, creating an unnecessary bottleneck.
Not a positive development.
The backscatter process looked to be very timeconsuming and the way they had it positioned limited access to the end of the baggage scanner, creating an unnecessary bottleneck.
Not a positive development.
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Backscatter is being used in terminal 2 (Delta / Air Canada). There is a small sign explaining the opt out just before you walk into the wtmd/backscatter area. I went towards the Metal Detector instead and they were perfectly fine with it. Looked to be sending about half the people toward the backscatter machine.
The backscatter process looked to be very timeconsuming and the way they had it positioned limited access to the end of the baggage scanner, creating an unnecessary bottleneck.
Not a positive development.
The backscatter process looked to be very timeconsuming and the way they had it positioned limited access to the end of the baggage scanner, creating an unnecessary bottleneck.
Not a positive development.
I am more concerned about this becoming a primary option in T1-West.

