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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:42 am
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:44 am
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:44 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jfe:
Well, it's not like I can put a request on the TalkTeam forum, the information in there is as public as the one in this forum

Incredible, just increible, and to prove my point a little further, here comes another player

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I have a gut feeling that consienceofflyertalk, who is not even literate enough to spell his own nickname correctly, is none other than our old friend ftomnibox.

This re-inforces what I said earlier -- positive ID, not moderation, is the answer. If positive ID were required, his post would never have made it onto the board.

BTW, consienceofflyertalk, it is spelled C-O-N-S-C-I-E-N-C-E. Next time you chose a nick, have somebody look up the spelling for it.

Oh, here is another word you can check out: C-O-W-A-R-D. (n. 1. One who yields unworthily to fear. 2. One who makes false accusations on Flyer Talk without having the courage to use his usual user name.)
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:44 am
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Is this a BBS about Frequent Flyers or a FOX Reality Show?

We don't need a moderator in this forum.

We need some frelling common sense from the Community as a whole.

Everyone's taking their disagreements - major or minor - with each other and/or threads direct to Randy via this forum.

The moderators are there for a reason - to moderate. If they don't give you the answer you want, well maybe that's life. If you really feel you've been shafted, then email Randy privately.

This forum should be more than a place to try one's case in the Court of Public Opinion.

I don't know, maybe we need a forum called "Court of Public Opinion" and leave it unmoderated. Just let people with beefs go at it, while the rest of us can just pass it by if we're not involved.

And then we can create an unmoderated "Trust No One" forum for all those who feel moderators can't be trusted and people can bash them to their heart's content.

I've seen a handful of good threads in this forum over the past year. Threads that dealth with issues of how FlyerTalk is managed and run as an entity. As of late, it's been nothing but whizzing matches.

We're just lucky Randy doesn't have a lot of free time to wade through this. Otherwise this community might be a lot smaller and a lot quieter.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:51 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
This re-inforces what I said earlier -- positive ID, not moderation, is the answer. If positive ID were required, his post would never have made it onto the board.
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What are you going to use for that, a driver's license?

How about Credit Cards, yes, that way we know for sure how it is, you get a lifetime subscription to FT for a one time charge of $0.01. And if they make posts like the ones that we are talking about, then you charge them $1,000.

I was going to say more than that, but they are probably losers who don't have that much credit anyway

BTW "re-inforces" is not a word either

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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:57 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jfe:
What are you going to use for that, a driver's license? </font>
There are bulletin boards which require you to give your home telephone number, and actually call you, before you are allowed to post. (Exception: If a known poster can vouch for your identity.)

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jfe:
BTW "re-inforces" is not a word either

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Yeah, dammit. I realized that I had slipped in the hyphen about two seconds after I posted. I was just too lazy to go back and correct it. Still, it wasn't my own nick I was screwing up so I guess it wasn't THAT bad!

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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 11:00 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jfe:
I am looking at all those posts made by some coward that has a hacker complex, and all I can feel is disgusted.</font>
Why are you saying it is a hacker, would the easier explanation not be that it is one of the moderators?

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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 11:01 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SEA_Tigger:
I don't know, maybe we need a forum called "Court of Public Opinion" and leave it unmoderated. Just let people with beefs go at it, while the rest of us can just pass it by if we're not involved.</font>
Actually, this is not such a bad idea. There are some great boards out there with these types of forums dedicated to flaming and personal attacks. The theory is that it serves as an escape valve. Does it solve the problems or create more? I don't know, but it's a possibility, I suppose.

The problem with a credit card verification system (like that AdultCheck) is that there are people who do not wish to introduce that kind of risk into their financial affairs.

I like the Navajo idea. Very Carlos Castaneda.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 11:08 am
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I don't subscribe to Inside Flyer, but I would have no objection at all if a one-year subscription, paid for with a credit card, were required for lifetime posting rights on Flyer Talk.

Anyone who can not afford to fork over $12 at least once has no business being on a bulletin board aimed at frequent flyers anyhow.

In addition to identifying all posters, and making multiple ids impossible, it would also serve to help offset Randy's costs in keeping the board up.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 11:09 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
I don't subscribe to Inside Flyer, but I would have no objection at all if a one-year subscription, paid for with a credit card, were required for lifetime posting rights on Flyer Talk.

Anyone who can not afford to fork over $12 at least once has no business being on a bulletin board aimed at frequent flyers anyhow.

In addition to identifying all posters, and making multiple ids impossible, it would also serve to help offset Randy's costs in keeping the board up.
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Good idea. I would do that, too.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 11:56 am
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I already do subscribe and you all should as well.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 12:00 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by attorney28:
Why are you saying it is a hacker, would the easier explanation not be that it is one of the moderators?

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I hope that is not the case

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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 12:03 pm
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You just staggered into the truth, Jesus.

Some of your colleagues are sick and tired of the gossip and discussions about plans to have members banned because some mods don't like them.

Maybe I'm one of them?

Did you think about that?
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 12:03 pm
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Why not simply charge for access to the forums, like they do on other IBB's?

You'd then reduce your membership base which probably factors into selling ad space here. In the final analysis, the loss of ad revenue due to the smaller numbers of members which would result from charging access/requiring an InsideFlyer subscription would have to be made up by the membership which remains, though, IIRC, I don't think FT was meant to be a money-making endeavor.

Also, consider that any move which results in a loss of membership would probably result in a loss of value for what makes FT so great: miles/points information.

It's a d@mned-if-you-do/d@mned-if-you-don't situation.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 12:14 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by anonplz:
Why not simply charge for access to the forums, like they do on other IBB's?

You'd then reduce your membership base which probably factors into selling ad space here.
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You would certainly be right if we were talking about a heavy membership fee, but $12 -- one time only -- and getting a year's subscription to the internet edition of Inside Flyer would not discourage many people.

Frankly, the price is worth it to me simply to know that I am dealing with people who are at least serious enough to let the board's administration know who they are.

I have also heard -- third hand, so it might not be correct -- of one poster who sent objectionable private mail to one of the women on FlyerTalk. I doubt it would happen if he knew that admin could identify him, and, if necessary, give his name and address to the police.
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