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FAQ
When is [insert airline here] joining oneworld???
Which airlines are lined up to join?
See list below and https://www.oneworld.com/member-airlines/overview
Another useful page for official announcements is: https://www.oneworld.com/news-information/oneworldnews
Current members elect (officially announced and currently aligning processes):
WY - Oman Air
Announced 20JUN22, with a target of '2024' - no indication yet when in 2024 this may be. https://www.oneworld.com/news/2022-0...-join-oneworld
Expected members:
FJ - Fiji Airways
Currently the only oneworld Connect member, FJ stated 28FEB24 that they would like to seek full membership and would apply in Q3 2024.Full membership may still take until 2025/2026. #1489 and https://onemileatatime.com/news/fiji-airways-oneworld/
EI - Aer Lingus
EI's new owners, IAG (owners of existing members BA+IB), stated before acquisition that they fully intended EI to rejoin, and have restated the intention since completing the purchase. EI has not yet been publically 'invited' by oneworld but should join eventually. When? When it's announced... When will EI become a full member of Oneworld?
Originally Posted by Willie Walsh via USA Today - 18NOV16
Walsh said it was too early to set a precise date for when Aer Lingus might officially join.
“We don’t have a specific timeline. We’re working as quickly as we can," he said.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...-ceo/94064688/
“We don’t have a specific timeline. We’re working as quickly as we can," he said.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...-ceo/94064688/
Potential members:
Well, that's what the discussion below is all about! Heard a rumour? Think oneworld should chase a particular airline to join or switch? Make your case!
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Who will be the next oneworld member? + New membership announcements [merged]
#1036
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
China Eastern?
http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...evolves-257302
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and
http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...evolves-257302
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China Eastern is increasingly commercially oriented, and after a number of changes, relishes being something of a maverick. For China Eastern, a BA partnership and even JV is an evolution; the revolution, if China Eastern musters the strength, is exiting its SkyTeam alliance and joining oneworld.
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Second is the reminder that China remains dynamic: its airlines may appear to be neatly categorised into hubs and alliances, but the market is still in early days. Much can, and probably will, be re-written. This will have global implications. In this initial phase the suggestion is BA in Asia, as in its home markets, wants to drive change to its benefit rather than be impacted by it.
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Second is the reminder that China remains dynamic: its airlines may appear to be neatly categorised into hubs and alliances, but the market is still in early days. Much can, and probably will, be re-written. This will have global implications. In this initial phase the suggestion is BA in Asia, as in its home markets, wants to drive change to its benefit rather than be impacted by it.
The inflection point is SkyTeam losing relevance for China Eastern while oneworld beckons. There is growing acknowledgment in China Eastern that strategically, oneworld is the right partnership platform. The outstanding matter is if China Eastern will be willing to exit SkyTeam; this is not only expensive but is seen as offensive, and in face-conscious Asia this may be unpalatable.
It would take a bold leader to bring such major strategic change to China Eastern, but that is an increasingly strong scenario under Chairman Shaoyong Liu.
It would take a bold leader to bring such major strategic change to China Eastern, but that is an increasingly strong scenario under Chairman Shaoyong Liu.
Last edited by Calchas; Dec 15, 2015 at 6:17 am
#1037
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: Bonvoy, Golden Circle, Marco Polo, MileagePlus, SKYMILES
Posts: 53
#1038
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 581
#1039
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 581
The answer seems to be "no." A CAPA article reports this:
Delta's stake reflects long term potential but as a mere 3.5% it is more symbolic and a placeholder for a potentially deeper partnership.
#1040
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: Bonvoy, Golden Circle, Marco Polo, MileagePlus, SKYMILES
Posts: 53
The answer seems to be "no." A CAPA article reports this:
#1043
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Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posts: 38,335
#1045
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 581
"China Will Let Markets Play Role In Airline Slot Allocation"
Aviation Week is reporting this:
http://aviationweek.com/commercial-a...lot-allocation
Does this mean that CX and/or KA will be allowed in on the action?
Could this strengthen MU's dissatisfaction with being in the same alliance as CZ, as their route portfolios become less differentiated?
http://aviationweek.com/commercial-a...lot-allocation
Does this mean that CX and/or KA will be allowed in on the action?
Could this strengthen MU's dissatisfaction with being in the same alliance as CZ, as their route portfolios become less differentiated?
#1046
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 581
"Star Alliance the first global alliance with an LCC platform"
CAPA reports this here:
http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...partner-258088
This seems like something that OW should do. WS, 4O, and 6E would help fill out the map.
http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...partner-258088
This seems like something that OW should do. WS, 4O, and 6E would help fill out the map.
#1047
Join Date: Jan 2000
Programs: Latinpass Million Miler. BA Gold.
Posts: 3,544
Aviation Week is reporting this:
http://aviationweek.com/commercial-a...lot-allocation
Does this mean that CX and/or KA will be allowed in on the action?
Could this strengthen MU's dissatisfaction with being in the same alliance as CZ, as their route portfolios become less differentiated?
http://aviationweek.com/commercial-a...lot-allocation
Does this mean that CX and/or KA will be allowed in on the action?
Could this strengthen MU's dissatisfaction with being in the same alliance as CZ, as their route portfolios become less differentiated?
#1050
Suspended
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: HKG, VCE, CAN
Programs: CX MPO
Posts: 585
- The alliance arrangements for * and ST have been negotiated at government level, the only face to be given is to the Chinese government. If they decide that an arrangement has run its full course, penalties and exit fees will be the least concern for them
- BA, AA and probably QR are pushing for a Chinese member to join, and given CX unwillingness to help and hostility to the whole issue are finally involving their governments to negotiate with the chinese
- MU has been historically close to CX (they trained their personnel and supplied some services, plus they still should have a stake, together with CA, superior to the token 3.5% of DL), although their links have been increasingly tenuous in the last few years and the Jetstar HK fiasco sank them to an all time low
- MU accession to ST is widely believed to have been forced personally by Li Shaoyong. The recent emphasis on fighting corruption by the current Chinese leadership may show this as a dangerous gamble rather than a successful idea, so it is entirely possible that MU management is trying to distance itself from a potentially tainted individual
- CZ and MU will not remain in the same alliance for long. ST has a very little saying on the matter and it will either have to accept the Chinese government decision or aggressively renegotiate terms and conditions. Also a defection from either CZ or MU may induce other members outside China to switch sides as well (VN? KE?)