Trying to work out a Circle Pacific itin between BOS and SYD.
Are CX831 and 830 valid for Circle Pacific, or are they classed as trans-Atlantic?
TIA

830/831 are considered Trans-Pacific for fares and routing purposes. (HKG-JFK is in practice trans-Pacific; JFK-HKG is more likely to be trans-Arctic.)

Definately fine....

I did JFK-SYD-AYQ-SYD-HKG-JFK over the holidays and flew back on CX 830

Thanks, that's sort of good news.
Seeing that it's impossible to create DCIR22 for BOS-SYD-BNE-BOS I guess I'll probably have to do a DCIR26 and go via HKG one way or the other, plus do a couple of extra legs within Australia. More money, but more miles.
How does CX treat passengers who book the AA codeshare (this is the only way to accrue Aadvantage miles, right)? As well as those on CX codes?

Do you need to go via HKG? Using AA for the North Pacific crossing via NRT is generally the shortest way for a xCIRxx fare.

Consider BOS-ORD-NRT-BNE-LAX-BOS for the Circle Pacific route (21,335 according to Great Circle Mapper), and purchase a separate el-cheapo net fare for BNE-SYD-BNE, which is only a 1 hour flight and often go for under A$100 each way. That's got to be cheaper than upgrading to the 26,000 mile fare.

Or, if travelling in J, I would consider BOS-JFK-NRT-SYD-JFK-BOS (21,914 according to Great Circle Mapper) since that assures you of getting the QF Skybed seats all the way from SYD-JFK (via LAX on QF107), and buy your cheap SYD-BNE-SYD return flight separately.

do you guys have have a pricing guide for the circle pacific fare??

You will find it in PDF format here.

Yes, I have chewed over those two itineraries already.
I want to do the minimum hops possible on the Circle Pacific. So BOS-ORD-NRT-BNE-SYD is "one hop too far" (especially compared to the BOS-LAX-SYD I normally do). And BOS-ORD-NRT-SYD-LAX-BOS exceeds 22000.

I may end up doing BOS-JFK-NRT-SYD-LAX-BOS (21876). Only problem is that there are NO morning Oneworld flights BOS-JFK, they all seem to be BOS-LGA. And the JFK-NRT leaves at 11:40, which means a really early start out of BOS. That would be less of a problem connecting to CX831 which doesn't leave until 15:50.

On the other hand, going to 26,000 would allow BOS-LAX-SYD-BNE-CNS-HKG-JFK-BOS (23137), with some time in Port Douglas at the end of the Australian portion. Requires an overnight in HKG (or in LAX doing HKG-LAX-BOS).

Bah! If Boston were 100 miles further west things would be so much simpler.

Just for fun, I asked the great circle mapper to calculate BDL-ORD-NRT-SYD-LAX-BDL, which comes to 21917.

If you are willing to add an o/night stop in HKG, then why not add the o/night at JFK. Head BOS-JFK one afternoon/evening, stay overnight ready for the JFK-NRT flight the following morning.

Otherwise go ahead and buy the 26,000 mile fare. But by the time you get to that fare cost, a DONE4 becomes attractive . It all comes down to how you rate the importance of cost verses time, and only you can answer that one.

Can you fly BOS-JFK (or LGA) one evening, then onwards from JFK the next day? Maybe you can find someone you need to see or meet with in NY overnight. And the airport hotels are usually pretty reasonable at LGA and JFK -- see Priceline experts (e.g. biddingfortravel.com) for help.

Ha! Very creative, hadn't thought of BDL at all. Unfortunately it won't work for a few reasons.

Yes, may end up going to JFK the night before (Amtrak maybe, I have points there too) and doing JFK-NRT-SYD-BNE-LAX-BOS (21829) on a DCIR22.

If I do go to the 26000 mile fare it is still signifcantly less than a DONE4. DCIR26 is $5900, DONE4 is $7400.
DCIR22 is $4900.
Although the DONE4 appears to allow a rather nice routing BOS-LAX-SYD-BNE-CNS-HKG-LHR-BOS which gets into BOS early afternoon rather than late at night if coming from LAX.

If planning to do this in the first half of this year, may I recommend you swap SYD and BNE in that routing. BNE-LAX is operated by a 2-class 747-400, while SYD-LAX is operated by 3-class 747-400. The 3-class has the Skybeds installed now, while the 2-class aircraft will commence their skybed uprades slowly for completion by the end of 2005. And Skybed is a lot more comfortable than the old Dreamtime seats on the current 2-class config.

Also note that if you can do SYD-JFK on QF107 (transit in LAX), then you get Skybeds all the way through and QF international business class service all the way through, which may be better than an AA 757 LAX-BOS even in First. But of course you still need to get back to BOS from JFK.