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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 9:01 am
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Need help understanding One World Explorer

Hello All,

I will be traveling in business class on One World Explorer 3 continent fare. My 3 continents are N.America, Europe and Asia. I have been looking at all the postings on this forum and I still have a few questions !! ( I know that is hard to believe but I am a little slow)

First, what does "four sectors" mean exactly? Does it mean 4 stopovers or four flight segments. For example, if I wanted to visit Lisbon, Madrid, Milan and Athens it would take me about 6 or 7 seperate segments on Iberia, BA and Aer Lingus to do that since there are no OW flights form Milan to Athens.

Second, in the above example, I would be arriving into LHR via DEL and continuing to Lisbon and after the end of my Athens visit, I would have to fly back to LHR to catch my flight to ORD. Now, mind you, I will not be stopping in LHR. Does the return flight from Athens to LHR still count against my "sectors" ?

Third, in N. America how many times can I backtrack to the same city to stayover? The reason I ask that is because I got the impression that in N. America you can get two stopovers in the same city.

I appreciate all your help.


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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 10:15 am
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A sector or a flight segment is one flight coupon. If you change planes in a city and use another flight coupon it is another segment. You get 4 in each continent except North America where you get six. Stopovers make no difference except in the continent of origin where you are limited to two. You can visit the same city and stopover as many times as you want to within the preceding limitations.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 10:57 am
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Pamjab as ExMo says the max is 4 free sectors per continent, save for North America; however you can buy additional sectors in biz for about 250 a pop as far as I remember.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 8:47 pm
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ExMo and VirtualTroy,

Thanks for your replies. So let me clarify this. According to you guys DEL-LHR-LIS-MAD-BCN-MXP-ORD(via LHR) is ok since I only used four segments ie. 1) LHR-LIS 2) LIS-MAD 3)MAD-BCN 4)BCN-MXP. From MXP to ORD (even though it is via LHR) should count as an outward segment and not count in the internal four segments. Am I correct in understanding this?

Also, on the North America part can I do this:

Arrive from Europe to ORD. Take a stopover. Then after a few weeks, do ORD-MIA-PTY-MIA-ORD and then take another stopover in ORD (having used 4 internal segments). A few weeks later I do ORD-DFW-ORD and then stop for a few more weeks in ORD. Then a few weeks later I do ORD-NRT to leave N. America.

Thank you all,

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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 9:26 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by panjab:
According to you guys DEL-LHR-LIS-MAD-BCN-MXP-ORD(via LHR) is ok since I only used four segments ie. 1) LHR-LIS 2) LIS-MAD 3)MAD-BCN 4)BCN-MXP. From MXP to ORD (even though it is via LHR) should count as an outward segment and not count in the internal four segments. Am I correct in understanding this?

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No. I do not see any through flights from MXP to ORD. You will have to change planes at LHR. That means that MXP-LHR is a fifth segment in Europe. The fact that you are connecting to an intercontinental flight is irrelevant. You will either have to buy an extra segment (assuming you are not originating in Europe) or do one of the other segments you have planned outside the OWE ticket.

Your North American flights look OK as you have only used six segments.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 5:27 pm
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ExMo and VirtualTroy,

Here is my (final) planned itinerary for N.America.

Arrive in ORD.
Go ORD-DFW-ORD (visit DFW for a few days)
Go ORD-PTY-ORD (Connect via MIA)
Leave the continent by Cathay Pacific
ORD-HKG (via SFO).

Is that six segments or less?

My stopover points are ORD (three times), PTY and DFW.


Thanks for your patience in explaining this,

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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 8:10 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by panjabi:

Arrive in ORD.
Go ORD-DFW-ORD (visit DFW for a few days)
Go ORD-PTY-ORD (Connect via MIA)
Leave the continent by Cathay Pacific
ORD-HKG (via SFO).

Is that six segments or less?

My stopover points are ORD (three times), PTY and DFW.
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Stopovers are irrelevant in NA as you are not originating there. However, I count seven segments unless CX begins direct flights from ORD to HKG via SFO.

1: ORD-DFW
2: DFW-ORD
3: ORD-MIA
4: MIA-PTY
5: PTY-MIA
6: MIA-ORD
7: ORD-SFO

If you do not need to return to ORD after PTY you could use the 6th segment to go MIA-LAX or MIA-SFO and then connect to CX to HKG.
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