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wijibintheair Aug 31, 2023 6:55 am
Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 35543405)
Yes. You may struggle finding a competent travel agent though. Have you considered booking through the AA rtw desk?
Thanks. I have but my itinerary would have no overwater sectors on AA for mileage reasons so don't think AA would be willing to issue the ticket.

allset2travel Aug 31, 2023 8:30 am
Originally Posted by eugnk (Post 35542578)
While keeping in mind [MENTION=392902]BNELHR[/MENTION] recent experience with CX, I did go ahead with booking an ex-JP DONE3 with them. I hoped that having a simple 3-continent itinerary, which was successfully priced by the online tool, would save me any trouble.

I'll share my experience.

1. Building itinerary.

CTS->HKG (CX)
HKG->TLV (CX)
TLV->MAD->TLV (IB/I2)
TLV->CMN->TLV (AT)
TLV->JFK (AA)
JFK->MEX->JFK (AA)
JFK->DFW->ANC (AA)
ANC->SFO (AS)
SFO->JFK (AA)
JFK->DEL (AA)
DEL->HKG>CTS (CX)

This was successfully priced by the online tool, after some hiccups with transit/stopover points. Note: any itinerary with JL as the first carrier produced errors at the very first stage of price evaluation.

2. Price. 656K (base) + 128K (taxes/fees) JPY. Taxes/fees 128K breakdown: 60K amounted to carrier surcharges, 30K of which were due to the TLV->CMN roundtrip with Royal Air Maroc.

3. I have selected flights, validating itinerary and proceeded with booking through the online tool. One is requested to enter name, FF number and credit card info. Completing the details in the OW online tool produced a booking with CX (first segment carrier). I was sent a booking confirmation email advising me to contact CX within 96 hours to arrange the payment.
Eventually, a credit card that I provided with the oneworld online tool has not been used.

4. Contacting CX for payment.
The good thing was that there was no discussion about DONE rules/itinerary at all. It looked like the booking was treated as valid. The agent was just dealing with processing the payment. The bad thing was that it took about 35 minutes for the agent to generate an email with the payment link. I was on hold most of the time.

It took 23 (!) more minutes to add my BA FF number. FF number was not successfully passed from the oneworld tool to the CX booking. The agent has struggled to add it to the booking.

5. I received my e-ticket 2 hours after finishing the phone conversation with CX.
Congrats for going that far with the online tools and successfully ticketed by CX. Thanks for the data point.

I must be behind on the updates of the rules. (see BOLDED portion of itinerary in NA). Is backtracking (SFO-JFK) coast to coast in NA allowed now? It must be, otherwise the online tools would have flagged it.

Can someone enlighten me on this, as I am contemplating an ex-JPN DONEx at the moment. TIA.

jerry a. laska Aug 31, 2023 8:49 am
Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 35543752)
Congrats for going that far with the online tools and successfully ticketed by CX. Thanks for the data point.

I must be behind on the updates of the rules. (see BOLDED portion of itinerary in NA). Is backtracking (SFO-JFK) coast to coast in NA allowed now? It must be, otherwise the online tools would have flagged it.

Can someone enlighten me on this, as I am contemplating an ex-JPN DONEx at the moment. TIA.
You can fly any direction you want as much as you want in the contiguous 48 states but you can only have one transcontinental (as listed in the rules). You cannot backtrack after flying to Hawaii and only 1 flight to and from Alaska.

The SFO-JFK is the only transcontinental in the flights you highlighted.

SNA_Flyer Aug 31, 2023 6:26 pm
Originally Posted by jrobin (Post 35537069)
Yesterday I rerouted a DONE4 to create the following itinerary:
CAI-LHR-PHL-YYZ-JFK-HKG-PER-SYD-AKL-SYD-HND-SGN-HND-LHR-CAI
Interesting - you were able to successfully book ex-CAI with AA? There was a post further back that said AA is not booking these again.

hsmall Aug 31, 2023 9:35 pm
I have a question on BA flight numbers attached to AA operated flights. For example AA255 JFK-LAX which is also BA4685. Normally these flights are bootable only in conjunction with connecting BA flights from the UK. But if an AONEx is ticketed by BA, could one get a booking on the BA flight code which would yield more miles etc., even if it is not connecting to a BA flight to or from the UK?

Thanks!

jrobin Aug 31, 2023 9:54 pm
Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer (Post 35545104)
Interesting - you were able to successfully book ex-CAI with AA? There was a post further back that said AA is not booking these again.
I booked two ex-CAI with AA in June with no issues.
I also booked one ex-CAI with QF but chose not to pay for it.

dvs7310 Aug 31, 2023 11:11 pm
Originally Posted by hsmall (Post 35545344)
I have a question on BA flight numbers attached to AA operated flights. For example AA255 JFK-LAX which is also BA4685. Normally these flights are bootable only in conjunction with connecting BA flights from the UK. But if an AONEx is ticketed by BA, could one get a booking on the BA flight code which would yield more miles etc., even if it is not connecting to a BA flight to or from the UK?

Thanks!
Are you sure the BA code would still yield more miles with BA going to revenue earn also? Usually the prorated amount isn't very much of the total ticket price for these, unless BA has decided to still credit xONEx as distance? (sorry haven't seen if that's the case as I don't often read the BA forum).

hsmall Sep 1, 2023 12:15 am
Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 35545444)
Are you sure the BA code would still yield more miles with BA going to revenue earn also? Usually the prorated amount isn't very much of the total ticket price for these, unless BA has decided to still credit xONEx as distance? (sorry haven't seen if that's the case as I don't often read the BA forum).

Both reasonable points but as I understand it (I am hugely open to correction):-

- this was booked before the new system came into operation and
- I thought the new system does not apply to xONEx tickets.

As I say I could be wrong. I am going to phone the BA GGL line when it opens later and see what they say.

andreiz Sep 2, 2023 10:30 am
Booked a new ex-OSL DONE4 with AA yesterday. I wanted to fly LAX-SYD on QF12 on December 1 and ExpertFlyer was showing D9 (and J9 C9), but the AA agent said that nothing in business class was available, not even J/C classes. We checked all through December 12 and still nothing. Had to book AA73 instead just to get it finished, but not happy about it due to higher taxes and worse J experience. Is this a tool glitch or QF limiting access somehow?

Mwenenzi Sep 2, 2023 2:12 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35548648)
Booked a new ex-OSL DONE4 with AA yesterday. I wanted to fly LAX-SYD on QF12 on December 1 and ExpertFlyer was showing D9 (and J9 C9), but the AA agent said that nothing in business class was available, not even J/C classes. We checked all through December 12 and still nothing. Had to book AA73 instead just to get it finished, but not happy about it due to higher taxes and worse J experience. Is this a tool glitch or QF limiting access somehow?
What higher tax for LAX-SYD on AA vs QF? Taxes are by governments and do not vary by airline.
If may be that AA wants to book you on an AA flight and not another airline. In recent times have read AA less willing to book other airlines flight numbers and more insistent on AA flights.
You could try to change later with another airline and/or AA agent, Should be no cost.

andreiz Sep 2, 2023 3:07 pm
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 35549011)
What higher tax for LAX-SYD on AA vs QF? Taxes are by governments and do not vary by airline.
Sorry, I misspoke. I meant that AA has a much higher YR surcharge ($349.30) vs QF ($12.50).

If may be that AA wants to book you on an AA flight and not another airline. In recent times have read AA less willing to book other airlines flight numbers and more insistent on AA flights.
You could try to change later with another airline and/or AA agent, Should be no cost.
Yeah, that's my current plan. Will keep trying periodically to see if the D space opens up.

NDFan Sep 3, 2023 5:36 am
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35548648)
Booked a new ex-OSL DONE4 with AA yesterday. I wanted to fly LAX-SYD on QF12 on December 1 and ExpertFlyer was showing D9 (and J9 C9), but the AA agent said that nothing in business class was available, not even J/C classes. We checked all through December 12 and still nothing. Had to book AA73 instead just to get it finished, but not happy about it due to higher taxes and worse J experience. Is this a tool glitch or QF limiting access somehow?
This discrepancy between what EF shows in D class on Asian airlines, and what AA can actually book, seems to be increasingly common. I have recently been working on three RTWs in Business and found that AA could not book any flights between Tokyo and Seoul despite all of them showing D9 on JL.
Another one was BKK-SYD on QF: flight was showing D5 but AA could not book it.
Now I am trying to get USA-HKG in March 2024: every CX flight from every US gateway to HKG is showing D9 but Oneworld booking tool cannot see any of them. (I haven't called AA yet on this one.)
I don't know if there is some sort of hidden sub-class of D, or if it is related to Point of Commencement (as somebody else suggested) but it makes EF much less useful when trying to build an RTW,

jrobin Sep 3, 2023 7:10 am
Originally Posted by NDFan (Post 35550062)
This discrepancy between what EF shows in D class on Asian airlines, and what AA can actually book, seems to be increasingly common,
Data Point: In my case, I booked JFK-HKG on CX one day; the next day, trying to make a second booking, JFK-HKG was unavailable to AA despite showing D5 on EF. I went with JFK-HND on JL and HND-HKG (both JL and CX were available) as a placeholder.

Two days later, JFK-HKG on CX was available again for AA to book, so Mrs. Jrobin and I are now on the same flights.

So try again later sometimes works.

dvs7310 Sep 4, 2023 2:54 am
Originally Posted by NDFan (Post 35550062)
found that AA could not book any flights between Tokyo and Seoul despite all of them showing D9 on JL.
HND-GMP and v.v. is a known issue with AA, they can't book it as a standalone for whatever reason, though every other OW airline can. It has to be in conjunction with a flight from the US. I've raised the issue with AA multiple times via different channels but nothing has changed.

I'm having issues with them now because also for some unknown reason they've pulled all business class availability since yesterday on both AKL routes. Went from J/C/D = plenty to 0 on all overnight. You'd think there would be an announcement if they were pulling out of New Zealand entirely. Even AA.com won't sell a business fare today from AKL without going via Australia.

ernestnywang Sep 4, 2023 1:34 pm
Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 35551995)
I'm having issues with them now because also for some unknown reason they've pulled all business class availability since yesterday on both AKL routes. Went from J/C/D = plenty to 0 on all overnight. You'd think there would be an announcement if they were pulling out of New Zealand entirely. Even AA.com won't sell a business fare today from AKL without going via Australia.
Could AA be pulling out of NZ (at least seasonally)?

jerry a. laska Sep 4, 2023 2:06 pm
Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35553374)
Could AA be pulling out of NZ (at least seasonally)?
The AA forum seems to think that the lack of availability (also affecting other Asia SWP routes) is just a not uncommon AA inventory rebalancing or glitch. Some further discussion here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ilability.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...-2023-a-4.html

dvs7310 Sep 5, 2023 3:00 am
Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35553374)
Could AA be pulling out of NZ (at least seasonally)?
Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 35553453)
The AA forum seems to think that the lack of availability (also affecting other Asia SWP routes) is just a not uncommon AA inventory rebalancing or glitch. Some further discussion here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ilability.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...-2023-a-4.html
Yeah as of now it's still zeroed out, but I think as a result of this I've convinced myself to go CX via HKG instead. It's a lot more miles flown (good for mileage earning naturally which is half the fun of these tickets), so even with CX earning lower with AAdvantage vs QF code on the AA flight it's still a win.

Let me run this by you guys and make sure it's valid because the OneWorld tool won't give me CX options out of AKL to N. America. Only the bolded parts are what I'm questioning, I've already validated everything post-SAL, stopovers marked with (s).

Either one of these, I believe both are ok, but might break the 2x in Asia rule on the first, don't believe the 2nd version does:
FUK-HKG-AKL(s)-HKG-JFK(s) (surface) SAL-DFW-DOH-NBO(s) (surface) EBB-DOH(s)-DUB(s)-DOH-MNL(s)-TYO
or
TYO-SYD-AKL(s)-HKG-JFK(s) (surface) SAL-DFW-DOH-NBO(s) (surface) EBB-DOH(s)-DUB(s)-DOH-MNL(s)-TYO

I've got enough segments left I could have JFK-MIA-SAL but married segment availability isn't there currently tied to CX and it's relatively inexpensive to just buy it in Business on UA from EWR or even buy economy on AA and try to SWU it. I may try it when I call in but I'd much rather just buy it and fly the same day vs. staying 24 hours in NYC in winter to break the married segments.

NDFan Sep 5, 2023 6:50 am
Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 35554744)
because the OneWorld tool won't give me CX options out of AKL to N. America. .
There is definitely something weird going on with CX and OneWorld Explorer availability.
I am in the process of booking a DONE3 starting in Japan in December and CX has 5 flights per day from TYO-HKG and all are showing D5 or greater on EF. But the OneWorld tool will not show any of them, and when I called AA they said there is nothing available on CX.
Similarly when researching US-HKG in March, I can see D9 on flights from BOS, JFK and other gateways, but the OneWorld tool shows nothing. (I didn't call AA on it because I was just researching that leg)

dvs7310 Sep 5, 2023 7:13 am
Originally Posted by NDFan (Post 35555088)
There is definitely something weird going on with CX and OneWorld Explorer availability.
I am in the process of booking a DONE3 starting in Japan in December and CX has 5 flights per day from TYO-HKG and all are showing D5 or greater on EF. But the OneWorld tool will not show any of them, and when I called AA they said there is nothing available on CX.
Similarly when researching US-HKG in March, I can see D9 on flights from BOS, JFK and other gateways, but the OneWorld tool shows nothing. (I didn't call AA on it because I was just researching that leg)
I'm planning to ticket with CX this time, so hopefully those issues that AA seems to have with partners won't affect me, but it does seem to be a growing problem for AA issued tickets.

I've definitely not had problems with the OW tool not showing CX flights when they are on ExperFlyer, my issue is that CX pulls all D inventory from Japan during every single busy period. Or they'll have it to HKG only but not married segments. But I think my above itinerary with QF to SYD and AKL should work and CX should ticket it despite them only having segments 3 and 4 on the itinerary.

jrobin Sep 5, 2023 12:17 pm
How to Select Seats on AA Codeshare on JL?
 
Originally Posted by NDFan (Post 35550062)
This discrepancy between what EF shows in D class on Asian airlines, and what AA can actually book, seems to be increasingly common. I have recently been working on three RTWs in Business and found that AA could not book any flights between Tokyo and Seoul despite all of them showing D9 on JL.
AA-booked Oneworld Explorer showed D availability on JL HND-SGN-HND, but AA agent was unable to book seats, so the agent (not unhappily) was able instead to book AA 8493 and AA 8494 codeshares on JL.

Now the AA website cannot assign seats, and the JL site says "No Seat selection for this flight".

How do I get seats assigned for AA Codeshares on JL? Or does JL only allow seat selection if you book with them?

steveholt Sep 5, 2023 3:47 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35548648)
Booked a new ex-OSL DONE4 with AA yesterday. I wanted to fly LAX-SYD on QF12 on December 1 and ExpertFlyer was showing D9 (and J9 C9), but the AA agent said that nothing in business class was available, not even J/C classes. We checked all through December 12 and still nothing. Had to book AA73 instead just to get it finished, but not happy about it due to higher taxes and worse J experience. Is this a tool glitch or QF limiting access somehow?
QF's surcharges on LAX-SYD are significantly higher than AA when booked as part of a DONE4. I know what the fuel surcharges say, but the difference between booking AA and QF on this routing is about $1200 US cheaper on the AA side.

wandering_fred Sep 5, 2023 9:54 pm
I wonder what AA is planning on SYD-LAX.
I have P class seats ex SYD late Sep and exLAX mid Oct. The AA code shares on QF are still showing open availability, but there are no business seats available on AA and limited W/P class. I wonder what the on departure upgrade opportunities will be? Or even if I will swapped over to the AA code shares on QF?
Interesting times to be wandering
Fred

ernestnywang Sep 6, 2023 12:36 pm
Originally Posted by jrobin (Post 35555892)
AA-booked Oneworld Explorer showed D availability on JL HND-SGN-HND, but AA agent was unable to book seats, so the agent (not unhappily) was able instead to book AA 8493 and AA 8494 codeshares on JL.

Now the AA website cannot assign seats, and the JL site says "No Seat selection for this flight".

How do I get seats assigned for AA Codeshares on JL? Or does JL only allow seat selection if you book with them?
For AA*/JL flights, you have to call AA to get seat assignment. JL has a strict policy (unlike most other airlines I know of) to not help reserve seat when marketing carrier is not JL.

skunker Sep 6, 2023 1:15 pm
Originally Posted by jrobin (Post 35555892)
AA-booked Oneworld Explorer showed D availability on JL HND-SGN-HND, but AA agent was unable to book seats, so the agent (not unhappily) was able instead to book AA 8493 and AA 8494 codeshares on JL.

Now the AA website cannot assign seats, and the JL site says "No Seat selection for this flight".

How do I get seats assigned for AA Codeshares on JL? Or does JL only allow seat selection if you book with them?
You used to be able to do it via the JL website but you had to use the JL flight number. Another quirk was the naming convention. I believe it to get it to work I had to use FIRSTNAMEMIDDLENAME with no spaces for the given name field.

ernestnywang Sep 6, 2023 1:32 pm
Originally Posted by skunker (Post 35558807)
You used to be able to do it via the JL website but you had to use the JL flight number.
But you have to have a JL prime flight in your PNR, and even then I recall some problems, although I don't remember the specifics.

jrobin Sep 6, 2023 3:58 pm
Call AA for seats on AA codeshares on JL, (and possibly for JL prime seats)
 
Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35558719)
For AA*/JL flights, you have to call AA to get seat assignment. JL has a strict policy (unlike most other airlines I know of) to not help reserve seat when marketing carrier is not JL.
Thanks very much for this ernestnywang.
I tried calling JL and they assisted me to get seat assignments (perhaps because I am Oneworld Sapphire) but gave Mrs Jrobin seats that were across the plane from me in one AA codeshare, and could not assign a seat in another AA codeshare. On the JL flight they also had difficulty assigning a seat for her. I suspect it was because she has no status.
Later JL called me (while I was on the phone with AA) and said I should talk with AA about seats on codeshare flights and not JL.
AA were able to assign seats on the AA codeshares on JL and even on JL41 on which the JL agent was unable to assign a seat for Mrs Jrobin.

andreiz Sep 7, 2023 8:20 pm
Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 35556501)
QF's surcharges on LAX-SYD are significantly higher than AA when booked as part of a DONE4. I know what the fuel surcharges say, but the difference between booking AA and QF on this routing is about $1200 US cheaper on the AA side.
I just got off the phone with the RTW desk and that may explain the 2,500USD taxes/fees/surcharges on top of 5,415USD base fare.

My current itinerary on hold is OSL-xLHR-JFK-SEA-xLAX-SYD-HND-xDOH-OSL. This was meant as a placeholder to fulfill 4 continent requirements until I figure out the final routing. Would doing LAX-NRT-SYD-HND save me taxes/fees? Any other options I can try to minimize taxes until I'm ready to do the final routing?

steveholt Sep 8, 2023 11:48 am
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35562412)
I just got off the phone with the RTW desk and that may explain the 2,500USD taxes/fees/surcharges on top of 5,415USD base fare.

My current itinerary on hold is OSL-xLHR-JFK-SEA-xLAX-SYD-HND-xDOH-OSL. This was meant as a placeholder to fulfill 4 continent requirements until I figure out the final routing. Would doing LAX-NRT-SYD-HND save me taxes/fees? Any other options I can try to minimize taxes until I'm ready to do the final routing?
Your taxes will reduce significantly if you can find availability on the LAX-SYD AA flight.

andreiz Sep 8, 2023 5:03 pm
Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 35563925)
Your taxes will reduce significantly if you can find availability on the LAX-SYD AA flight.
I will try. Does QF charge onerous fees on Asia-SP D fares too? Like SYD-NRT?

andreiz Sep 8, 2023 5:05 pm
Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 35563925)
Your taxes will reduce significantly if you can find availability on the LAX-SYD AA flight.
Alternatively, is there a way to determine what fees/taxes will be charged per segment without sending the whole itinerary to the rate desk?

steveholt Sep 8, 2023 5:19 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35564583)
Alternatively, is there a way to determine what fees/taxes will be charged per segment without sending the whole itinerary to the rate desk?
ernestnywang has been very gracious in helping users identify costs. One way to estimate would be to use the oneworld RTW explorer tool and make a change to one segment to identify the relative cost difference.

ernestnywang Sep 8, 2023 6:58 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35562412)
I just got off the phone with the RTW desk and that may explain the 2,500USD taxes/fees/surcharges on top of 5,415USD base fare.

My current itinerary on hold is OSL-xLHR-JFK-SEA-xLAX-SYD-HND-xDOH-OSL. This was meant as a placeholder to fulfill 4 continent requirements until I figure out the final routing. Would doing LAX-NRT-SYD-HND save me taxes/fees? Any other options I can try to minimize taxes until I'm ready to do the final routing?
I don't know your exact carriers of choices. Given your LAX-SYD seems to be booked on QF, I assume your LHR-JFK is on AA. This is the closest quote I found that match your numbers.

Code:
WQOSL/AAA1OCT/CD/XLHR/AAA/CDJFK/AAA/CDSEA/AAA/CD/XLAX/AQF/CDSYD/AJL/CDHND/AQR/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDOSL-RW/SDFW/TDFW/VAA«

    PSGR TYPE  ADT
      FARE BASIS BOOK CODE          FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS  TOTAL
    01 DGLOB34    D/D/D/D/* USD    5352.00  2542.95    7894.95 ADT
    02 DONE4      D/D/D/D/* USD    5408.00  2543.41    7951.41 ADT
    03 DONE5      D/D/D/D/* USD    6176.00  2550.30    8726.30 ADT
    04 DONE6      D/D/D/D/* USD    6967.00  2657.35    9624.35 ADT
    *01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    *01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
    *01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
    *01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
    ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
    ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ2«

    1 AAOPEND 01OCT 7 OSLLHR DS1   
    2 AAOPEND        LHRJFK DS1 
    3 AAOPEND        JFKSEA DS1 
    4 AAOPEND        SEALAX DS1 
    5 QFOPEND        LAXSYD DS1 
    6 JLOPEND        SYDHND DS1 
    7 QROPEND        HNDDOH DS1 
    8 QROPEND        DOHOSL DS1 
    PSGR TYPE  ADT - 02
        CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG
    OSL
    XLON AA  D  01OCT DONE4          01OCT 01OCT 02P
    NYC AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          02OCT 02OCT 02P
    SEA AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          03OCT 03OCT 02P
    XLAX AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          04OCT 04OCT 02P
    SYD QF  D  OPEN  DONE4          05OCT 05OCT 02P
    TYO JL  D  OPEN  DONE4          06OCT 06OCT 02P
    XDOH QR  D  OPEN  DONE4          07OCT 07OCT 02P
    OSL QR  D  OPEN  DONE4          08OCT 08OCT 02P
    FARE  NOK    57959 EQUIV USD  5408.00
    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  2502.61XT
    TOTAL USD  7951.41                                            ¥

MD«

    ADT-01  DONE4                                                  ¥
    OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX QF SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR
    OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
    XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
    XT USD294.50YR USD1871.00YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9
    XT USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
    ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
    TKT/TL11SEP23/2359
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
    ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-8
    ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
    ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-8
    ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ¥DF2«

    WQ¥DF2
    PSGR TYPE ADT
    FARE  NOK    57959 EQUIV USD  5408.00
    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  2502.61XT
    TOTAL USD  7951.41
    OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX QF SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR OS
    L5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
    XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
    XT USD294.50YR USD1871.00YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5
    SEA4.5LAX4.5
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
    PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
    01 DONE4      NOK  5675.60 OSL-OSL AA /RT RTG              RW
                        5675.60    -    TOTAL NUC
    -TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
          294.50        /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
            250.00:USD  250.00 *LHR* *AA*              9592500
              12.50:USD    12.50 *LAX* *QF*              3595000
              16.00:USD    16.00 *HND* *QR*                10007
              16.00:USD    16.00 *HND* *QR*                10007
        1867.40        /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
            1228.40:EUR  1145.00 *LAX* *QF*              2994925  ¥

MD«

            219.00:USD  219.00 *SYD* *JL*              1057374  ¥
            420.00:USD  420.00 *HND* *QR*                  888
            3.60        /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
              3.60:USD    3.60 *SYD* *JL*              9040090
          38.30        AU/AU  PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE  PMC
              38.30:AUD    60.00 *SYD* *JL*          001    21250
          20.00        AU/WY  PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *SYD* *JL*          001  287500
          20.00        AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *LAX* *QF*          002  289375
          52.80        GB/UB  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
              52.80:GBP    42.14 *LHR* *AA*          001  4719958
            0.70        JP/OI  PASSENGER SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE
              0.70:JPY      100 *HND* *QR*          001    75025
          20.00        JP/SW  PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
              20.00:JPY    2950 *HND* *QR*          001  475000
            6.80        JP/TK  INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
              6.80:JPY    1000 *HND* *QR*          001  100000
          29.90        NO/G2  AIR PASSENGER TAX
              29.90:NOK      320 *OSL* *AA*          001  160000
          10.90        NO/ZN  PASSENGER CHARGE
              10.90:NOK      117 *OSL* *AA*          001  112500
          16.50        QA/G4  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC      ¥

MD«

              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  105000  ¥
            0.50        QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
              0.50:USD    0.50 *HND* *QR*          002  110000
          16.50        QA/QA  AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001    25000
            2.70        QA/R9  PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
              2.70:QAR    10.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  110000
          11.20        US/AY  PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
              5.60:USD    5.60 *JFK*              001  828212
              5.60:USD    5.60 *SEA*              001  828212
          48.46        US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL
              34.73:USD    34.73 *JFK* *AA*          012  510000
              13.73:USD    13.73 *SEA* *AA*          012  510000
          42.20        US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
              21.10:USD    21.10 *LAX* *QF*          014  187890
              21.10:USD    21.10 *OSL* *AA*          015  137890
            3.83        US/XA  APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
              3.83:USD    3.83 *LHR* *AA*          001  112500
            7.00        US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
              7.00:USD    7.00 *LHR* *AA*          002  130000
            6.52        US/YC  CUSTOMS USER FEE
              6.52:USD    6.52 *LHR* *AA*          001  125000
            9.60        US/ZP  FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC        ¥

MD«

              4.80:USD    4.80 *JFK*              001  138750  ¥
              4.80:USD    4.80 *SEA*              001  138750
          13.50        US/XF  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
              4.50:USD    4.50 *JFK*                 
              4.50:USD    4.50 *SEA*                 
              4.50:USD    4.50 *LAX*                 
    -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
      10.2119490  NOK-ROE  EFF 01SEP23*INDEF
    -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
    1NOK:0.09331275USD               
    -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
    1EUR:1.07283323USD                1AUD:0.63830607USD
    1GBP:1.25378973USD                1JPY:0.00677938USD
    1NOK:0.09331275USD                1QAR:0.27461211USD
    -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
      PU 01 - NORMAL  RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
    .
The QF 1145.00EUR YQ + 12.50USD YR is very high and can double if you put SYD-HND on QF as well, so yes, you can avoid it if you do LAX-NRT-SYD-HND and do not use QF at all. Use JL for NRT-SYD-HND. In this case, LAX-NRT is cheaper on AA, and if you can use JL for HND-DOH it would be even better. JL's YQ is higher for SYD-HND (219USD + [3.6USD per sector]) alone but lower when SYD-HND-DOH (67EUR + [3.6USD per sector]) is put together. But as you can see later, as long as you can use AA code for LAX-SYD, that would save you more.

Code:
WQOSL/AAA1OCT/CD/XLHR/AAA/CDJFK/AAA/CDSEA/AAA/CD/XLAX/AAA/CD/XNRT/AJL/CDSYD/AJL/CDHND/AJL/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDOSL-RW/SDFW/TDFW«

    PSGR TYPE  ADT
      FARE BASIS BOOK CODE          FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS  TOTAL
    01 DGLOB34    D/D/D/D/* USD    5352.00  1372.03    6724.03 ADT
    02 DONE4      D/D/D/D/* USD    5408.00  1372.56    6780.56 ADT
    03 DONE5      D/D/D/D/* USD    6176.00  1378.70    7554.70 ADT
    04 DONE6      D/D/D/D/* USD    6967.00  1485.23    8452.23 ADT
    *01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    *01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
    *01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
    *01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
    ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
    ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ2«

    1 AAOPEND 01OCT 7 OSLLHR DS1   
    2 AAOPEND        LHRJFK DS1 
    3 AAOPEND        JFKSEA DS1 
    4 AAOPEND        SEALAX DS1 
    5 AAOPEND        LAXNRT DS1 
    6 JLOPEND        NRTSYD DS1 
    7 JLOPEND        SYDHND DS1 
    8 JLOPEND        HNDDOH DS1 
    9 QROPEND        DOHOSL DS1 
    PSGR TYPE  ADT - 02
        CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG
    OSL
    XLON AA  D  01OCT DONE4          01OCT 01OCT 02P
    NYC AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          02OCT 02OCT 02P
    SEA AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          03OCT 03OCT 02P
    XLAX AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          04OCT 04OCT 02P
    XTYO AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          05OCT 05OCT 02P
    SYD JL  D  OPEN  DONE4          06OCT 06OCT 02P
    TYO JL  D  OPEN  DONE4          07OCT 07OCT 02P
    XDOH JL  D  OPEN  DONE4          08OCT 08OCT 02P
    OSL QR  D  OPEN  DONE4          09OCT 09OCT 02P
    FARE  NOK    57959 EQUIV USD  5408.00                        ¥

MD«

    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  1331.76XT          ¥
    TOTAL USD  6780.56
    ADT-01  DONE4
    OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX AA X/TYO JL SYD JL TYO JL
    X/DOH QR OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD44.11US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD28.30SW USD3.70OI
    XT USD38.30AU USD40.00WY USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
    XT USD266.00YR USD721.70YQ USD2.70R9 USD6.80TK
    XT USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
    ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
    TKT/TL11SEP23/2359
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-9
    ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-9
    ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
    ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-9
    ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER - AA
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ¥DF2«

    WQ¥DF2
    PSGR TYPE ADT
    FARE  NOK    57959 EQUIV USD  5408.00
    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  1331.76XT
    TOTAL USD  6780.56
    OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX AA X/TYO JL SYD JL TYO JL X/
    DOH QR OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD44.11US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD28.30SW USD3.70OI
    XT USD38.30AU USD40.00WY USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
    XT USD266.00YR USD721.70YQ USD2.70R9 USD6.80TK USD13.50XFJFK4.5S
    EA4.5LAX4.5
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
    PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
    01 DONE4      NOK  5675.60 OSL-OSL AA /RT RTG              RW
                        5675.60    -    TOTAL NUC
    -TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
          266.00        /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
            250.00:USD  250.00 *LHR* *AA*              9592500
              16.00:USD    16.00 *DOH* *QR*                40012
          710.90        /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
            219.00:USD  219.00 *NRT* *JL*              1057374
              71.90:EUR    67.00 *SYD* *JL*                999900
            420.00:USD  420.00 *DOH* *QR*                  888  ¥

MD«

          10.80        /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC    ¥
              3.60:USD    3.60 *NRT* *JL*              9040090
              3.60:USD    3.60 *SYD* *JL*              9040090
              3.60:USD    3.60 *HND* *JL*              9040090
          38.30        AU/AU  PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE  PMC
              38.30:AUD    60.00 *SYD* *JL*          001    21250
          20.00        AU/WY  PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *SYD* *JL*          001  287500
          20.00        AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *NRT* *JL*          002  289375
          52.80        GB/UB  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
              52.80:GBP    42.14 *LHR* *AA*          001  4719958
            3.70        JP/OI  PASSENGER SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE
              3.70:JPY      550 *NRT* *JL*          001  143750
          28.30        JP/SW  PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
              8.30:JPY    1230 *NRT* *JL*          001  335000
              20.00:JPY    2950 *HND* *JL*          001  475000
            6.80        JP/TK  INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
              6.80:JPY    1000 *HND* *JL*          001  100000
          29.90        NO/G2  AIR PASSENGER TAX
              29.90:NOK      320 *OSL* *AA*          001  160000
          10.90        NO/ZN  PASSENGER CHARGE
              10.90:NOK      117 *OSL* *AA*          001  112500  ¥

MD«

          16.50        QA/G4  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC      ¥
              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  105000
            0.50        QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
              0.50:USD    0.50 *HND* *JL*          002  110000
          16.50        QA/QA  AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001    25000
            2.70        QA/R9  PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
              2.70:QAR    10.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  110000
          11.20        US/AY  PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
              5.60:USD    5.60 *JFK*              001  828212
              5.60:USD    5.60 *SEA*              001  828212
          44.11        US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL
              31.58:USD    31.58 *JFK* *AA*          012  510000
              12.53:USD    12.53 *SEA* *AA*          012  510000
          42.20        US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
              21.10:USD    21.10 *LAX* *AA*          014  187890
              21.10:USD    21.10 *OSL* *AA*          015  137890
            3.83        US/XA  APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
              3.83:USD    3.83 *LHR* *AA*          001  112500
            7.00        US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
              7.00:USD    7.00 *LHR* *AA*          002  130000
            6.52        US/YC  CUSTOMS USER FEE
              6.52:USD    6.52 *LHR* *AA*          001  125000  ¥

MD«

            9.60        US/ZP  FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC        ¥
              4.80:USD    4.80 *JFK*              001  138750
              4.80:USD    4.80 *SEA*              001  138750
          13.50        US/XF  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
              4.50:USD    4.50 *JFK*                 
              4.50:USD    4.50 *SEA*                 
              4.50:USD    4.50 *LAX*                 
    -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
      10.2119490  NOK-ROE  EFF 01SEP23*INDEF
    -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
    1NOK:0.09331275USD               
    -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
    1EUR:1.07283323USD                1AUD:0.63830607USD
    1GBP:1.25378973USD                1JPY:0.00677938USD
    1NOK:0.09331275USD                1QAR:0.27461211USD
    -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
      PU 01 - NORMAL  RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
    .
Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 35563925)
Your taxes will reduce significantly if you can find availability on the LAX-SYD AA flight.
Yes, and remember not to use QF code (use JL code instead) for SYD-HND, and also use JL code for HND-DOH.

Code:
WQOSL/AAA1OCT/CD/XLHR/AAA/CDJFK/AAA/CDSEA/AAA/CD/XLAX/AAA/CDSYD/AJL/CDHND/AJL/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDOSL-RW/SDFW/TDFW/VAA«

    PSGR TYPE  ADT
      FARE BASIS BOOK CODE          FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS  TOTAL
    01 DGLOB34    D/D/D/D/* USD    5352.00  1141.85    6493.85 ADT
    02 DONE4      D/D/D/D/* USD    5408.00  1142.31    6550.31 ADT
    03 DONE5      D/D/D/D/* USD    6176.00  1149.20    7325.20 ADT
    04 DONE6      D/D/D/D/* USD    6967.00  1256.25    8223.25 ADT
    *01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    *01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
    *01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
    *01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
    ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
    ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ2«

    1 AAOPEND 01OCT 7 OSLLHR DS1   
    2 AAOPEND        LHRJFK DS1 
    3 AAOPEND        JFKSEA DS1 
    4 AAOPEND        SEALAX DS1 
    5 AAOPEND        LAXSYD DS1 
    6 JLOPEND        SYDHND DS1 
    7 JLOPEND        HNDDOH DS1 
    8 QROPEND        DOHOSL DS1 
    PSGR TYPE  ADT - 02
        CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG
    OSL
    XLON AA  D  01OCT DONE4          01OCT 01OCT 02P
    NYC AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          02OCT 02OCT 02P
    SEA AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          03OCT 03OCT 02P
    XLAX AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          04OCT 04OCT 02P
    SYD AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          05OCT 05OCT 02P
    TYO JL  D  OPEN  DONE4          06OCT 06OCT 02P
    XDOH JL  D  OPEN  DONE4          07OCT 07OCT 02P
    OSL QR  D  OPEN  DONE4          08OCT 08OCT 02P
    FARE  NOK    57959 EQUIV USD  5408.00
    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  1101.51XT
    TOTAL USD  6550.31                                            ¥

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    ADT-01  DONE4                                                  ¥
    OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO JL X/DOH QR
    OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
    XT USD20.00SW USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4 USD266.00YR
    XT USD499.10YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
    ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
    TKT/TL11SEP23/2359
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
    ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-8
    ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
    ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-8
    ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ¥DF2«

    WQ¥DF2
    PSGR TYPE ADT
    FARE  NOK    57959 EQUIV USD  5408.00
    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  1101.51XT
    TOTAL USD  6550.31
    OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO JL X/DOH QR OS
    L5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
    XT USD20.00SW USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4 USD266.00YR
    XT USD499.10YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
    PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
    01 DONE4      NOK  5675.60 OSL-OSL AA /RT RTG              RW
                        5675.60    -    TOTAL NUC
    -TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
          266.00        /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
            250.00:USD  250.00 *LHR* *AA*              9592500
              16.00:USD    16.00 *DOH* *QR*                40012
          491.90        /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
              71.90:EUR    67.00 *SYD* *JL*                999900
            420.00:USD  420.00 *DOH* *QR*                  888
            7.20        /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC    ¥

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              3.60:USD    3.60 *SYD* *JL*              9040090  ¥
              3.60:USD    3.60 *HND* *JL*              9040090
          38.30        AU/AU  PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE  PMC
              38.30:AUD    60.00 *SYD* *JL*          001    21250
          20.00        AU/WY  PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *SYD* *JL*          001  287500
          20.00        AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *LAX* *AA*          002  289375
          52.80        GB/UB  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
              52.80:GBP    42.14 *LHR* *AA*          001  4719958
          20.00        JP/SW  PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
              20.00:JPY    2950 *HND* *JL*          001  475000
            6.80        JP/TK  INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
              6.80:JPY    1000 *HND* *JL*          001  100000
          29.90        NO/G2  AIR PASSENGER TAX
              29.90:NOK      320 *OSL* *AA*          001  160000
          10.90        NO/ZN  PASSENGER CHARGE
              10.90:NOK      117 *OSL* *AA*          001  112500
          16.50        QA/G4  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC
              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  105000
            0.50        QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
              0.50:USD    0.50 *HND* *JL*          002  110000
          16.50        QA/QA  AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL          ¥

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              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001    25000  ¥
            2.70        QA/R9  PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
              2.70:QAR    10.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  110000
          11.20        US/AY  PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
              5.60:USD    5.60 *JFK*              001  828212
              5.60:USD    5.60 *SEA*              001  828212
          48.46        US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL
              34.73:USD    34.73 *JFK* *AA*          012  510000
              13.73:USD    13.73 *SEA* *AA*          012  510000
          42.20        US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
              21.10:USD    21.10 *LAX* *AA*          014  187890
              21.10:USD    21.10 *OSL* *AA*          015  137890
            3.83        US/XA  APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
              3.83:USD    3.83 *LHR* *AA*          001  112500
            7.00        US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
              7.00:USD    7.00 *LHR* *AA*          002  130000
            6.52        US/YC  CUSTOMS USER FEE
              6.52:USD    6.52 *LHR* *AA*          001  125000
            9.60        US/ZP  FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC
              4.80:USD    4.80 *JFK*              001  138750
              4.80:USD    4.80 *SEA*              001  138750
          13.50        US/XF  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
              4.50:USD    4.50 *JFK*                            ¥

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              4.50:USD    4.50 *SEA*                            ¥
              4.50:USD    4.50 *LAX*                 
    -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
      10.2119490  NOK-ROE  EFF 01SEP23*INDEF
    -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
    1NOK:0.09331275USD               
    -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
    1EUR:1.07283323USD                1AUD:0.63830607USD
    1GBP:1.25378973USD                1JPY:0.00677938USD
    1NOK:0.09331275USD                1QAR:0.27461211USD
    -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
      PU 01 - NORMAL  RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
    .
I have previously shared that in some cases using AS code for TPAC can further reduce YR/YQ, but in this case it makes no difference.

The 420USD YQ from QR is unavoidable as long as you have a QR sector (OSL-DOH). Given that and having to use some AA sectors at least, I think the last itineray is quite well already in terms of saving YR/YQ.

Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35564580)
I will try. Does QF charge onerous fees on Asia-SP D fares too? Like SYD-NRT?
Yes, another 1145.00EUR YQ + 12.50USD YR is applicable.

Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 35564595)
ernestnywang has been very gracious in helping users identify costs.
Thank you!

andreiz Sep 9, 2023 11:54 am
Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35564731)
I don't know your exact carriers of choices. Given your LAX-SYD seems to be booked on QF, I assume your LHR-JFK is on AA. This is the closest quote I found that match your numbers.
Thank you for such a detailed breakdown. I switched LAX-SYD to AA flight yesterday and booked the fare since I need to fly the first 2 segments soon. Here is the itinerary with carriers slotted in:

OSL-(BA)-xLHR-(BA)-JFK-(AS)-SEA-(AS)-xLAX-(AA)-SYD-(JL)-HND-(QR)-xDOH-(QR)-OSL

The taxes came out to about 1,220USD. I am guessing, based on the above, majority of that is from the BA and QR charges?

Yes, and remember not to use QF code (use JL code instead) for SYD-HND, and also use JL code for HND-DOH.
Do you mean to use JL codeshare or actual JL flights?

ernestnywang Sep 9, 2023 7:06 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35566217)
Thank you for such a detailed breakdown. I switched LAX-SYD to AA flight yesterday and booked the fare since I need to fly the first 2 segments soon. Here is the itinerary with carriers slotted in:

OSL-(BA)-xLHR-(BA)-JFK-(AS)-SEA-(AS)-xLAX-(AA)-SYD-(JL)-HND-(QR)-xDOH-(QR)-OSL

The taxes came out to about 1,220USD. I am guessing, based on the above, majority of that is from the BA and QR charges?
Hmm my calculation is 1321USD, not sure where the 100USD difference is coming from.

Code:
WQOSL/ABA15SEP/CD/XLHR/ABA/CDJFK/AAS/CDSEA/AAS/CD/XLAX/AAA/CDSYD/AJL/CDHND/AQR/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDOSL-RW/SDFW/TDFW/VAA/B8SEP23«

    PSGR TYPE  ADT
      FARE BASIS BOOK CODE          FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS  TOTAL
    01 DGLOB34    D/D/D/D/* USD    5368.00  1320.33    6688.33 ADT
    02 DONE4      D/D/D/D/* USD    5424.00  1320.85    6744.85 ADT
    03 DONE5      D/D/D/D/* USD    6192.00  1327.75    7519.75 ADT
    04 DONE6      D/D/D/D/* USD    6983.00  1434.88    8417.88 ADT
    *01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    *01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
    *01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
    *01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
    *01-04*PAYMENT/TKT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
    ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ2«

    1 BAOPEND 15SEP 5 OSLLHR DS1   
    2 BAOPEND        LHRJFK DS1 
    3 ASOPEND        JFKSEA DS1 
    4 ASOPEND        SEALAX DS1 
    5 AAOPEND        LAXSYD DS1 
    6 JLOPEND        SYDHND DS1 
    7 QROPEND        HNDDOH DS1 
    8 QROPEND        DOHOSL DS1 
    PSGR TYPE  ADT - 02
        CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG
    OSL
    XLON BA  D  15SEP DONE4          15SEP 15SEP 02P
    NYC BA  D  OPEN  DONE4          16SEP 16SEP 02P
    SEA AS  D  OPEN  DONE4          17SEP 17SEP 02P
    XLAX AS  D  OPEN  DONE4          18SEP 18SEP 02P
    SYD AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          19SEP 19SEP 02P
    TYO JL  D  OPEN  DONE4          20SEP 20SEP 02P
    XDOH QR  D  OPEN  DONE4          21SEP 21SEP 02P
    OSL QR  D  OPEN  DONE4          22SEP 22SEP 02P
    FARE  NOK    58127 EQUIV USD  5424.00
    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  1280.05XT
    TOTAL USD  6744.85                                            ¥

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    ADT-01  DONE4                                                  ¥
    OSL BA X/LON BA NYC AS SEA AS X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR
    OSL Q OSLOSL16.46 5675.60NUC5692.06END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD48.60US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
    XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
    XT USD32.00YR USD910.80YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9
    XT USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
    ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
    TKT/TL09SEP23/0001
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
    ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-8
    ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
    ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-8
    ATTN*PAYMENT/TKT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
    ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ¥DF2«

    WQ¥DF2
    PSGR TYPE ADT
    FARE  NOK    58127 EQUIV USD  5424.00
    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  1280.05XT
    TOTAL USD  6744.85
    OSL BA X/LON BA NYC AS SEA AS X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR OS
    L Q OSLOSL16.46 5675.60NUC5692.06END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD48.60US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
    XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
    XT USD32.00YR USD910.80YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5SE
    A4.5LAX4.5
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
    PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
                  EUR    16.46 OSL-OSL MISCELLANEOUS SURCHARGE
    01 DONE4      NOK  5675.60 OSL-OSL BA /RT RTG              RW
                        5692.06    -    TOTAL NUC
    -TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
          271.80        /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
            268.20:EUR  250.00 *OSL* *BA*              2188840
              3.60:USD    3.60 *SYD* *JL*              9040090
          639.00        /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
            219.00:USD  219.00 *SYD* *JL*              1057374
            420.00:USD  420.00 *HND* *QR*                  888  ¥

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          32.00        /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC    ¥
              16.00:USD    16.00 *HND* *QR*                10007
              16.00:USD    16.00 *HND* *QR*                10007
          38.30        AU/AU  PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE  PMC
              38.30:AUD    60.00 *SYD* *JL*          001    21250
          20.00        AU/WY  PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *SYD* *JL*          001  287500
          20.00        AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *LAX* *AA*          002  289375
          52.80        GB/UB  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
              52.80:GBP    42.14 *LHR* *BA*          001  4719958
            0.70        JP/OI  PASSENGER SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE
              0.70:JPY      100 *HND* *QR*          001    75025
          20.00        JP/SW  PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
              20.00:JPY    2950 *HND* *QR*          001  475000
            6.80        JP/TK  INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
              6.80:JPY    1000 *HND* *QR*          001  100000
          29.90        NO/G2  AIR PASSENGER TAX
              29.90:NOK      320 *OSL* *BA*          001  160000
          10.90        NO/ZN  PASSENGER CHARGE
              10.90:NOK      117 *OSL* *BA*          001  112500
          16.50        QA/G4  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC
              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  105000  ¥

MD«

            0.50        QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS  ¥
              0.50:USD    0.50 *HND* *QR*          002  110000
          16.50        QA/QA  AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001    25000
            2.70        QA/R9  PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
              2.70:QAR    10.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  110000
          11.20        US/AY  PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
              5.60:USD    5.60 *JFK*              001  828212
              5.60:USD    5.60 *SEA*              001  828212
          48.60        US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL
              34.80:USD    34.80 *JFK* *AS*          012  510000
              13.80:USD    13.80 *SEA* *AS*          012  510000
          42.20        US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
              21.10:USD    21.10 *LAX* *AA*          014  187890
              21.10:USD    21.10 *OSL* *BA*          015  137890
            3.83        US/XA  APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
              3.83:USD    3.83 *LHR* *BA*          001  112500
            7.00        US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
              7.00:USD    7.00 *LHR* *BA*          002  130000
            6.52        US/YC  CUSTOMS USER FEE
              6.52:USD    6.52 *LHR* *BA*          001  125000
            9.60        US/ZP  FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC
              4.80:USD    4.80 *JFK*              001  138750  ¥

MD«

              4.80:USD    4.80 *SEA*              001  138750  ¥
          13.50        US/XF  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
              4.50:USD    4.50 *JFK*                 
              4.50:USD    4.50 *SEA*                 
              4.50:USD    4.50 *LAX*                 
    -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
      10.2119490  NOK-ROE  EFF 01SEP23*INDEF
    -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
    1NOK:0.09331275USD               
    -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
    1EUR:1.07283323USD                1AUD:0.63830607USD
    1GBP:1.25378973USD                1JPY:0.00677938USD
    1NOK:0.09331275USD                1QAR:0.27461211USD
    -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
      PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
    .
Out of which:
BA - 250EUR=268.2USD
JL - 3.6+219=222.6USD
QR - 420+16+16=452USD

There's also a 16.46EUR Miscellaneous Surcharge counted as part of fare, not part of taxes. I believe that is AA's fuel surcharge.

Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35566217)
Do you mean to use JL codeshare or actual JL flights?
As long as marketing carrier is JL, JL's YQ/YR rate will be used irrespective of operating carrier.

andreiz Sep 11, 2023 9:06 am
In my OSL-xLHR-JFK-... itinerary the first 2 flights were booked as AA codeshare (instead of BA prime). Is it required that the first flight and the first overwater flight be codeshares of the booking airline?

ernestnywang Sep 11, 2023 11:09 am
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35570550)
In my OSL-xLHR-JFK-... itinerary the first 2 flights were booked as AA codeshare (instead of BA prime). Is it required that the first flight and the first overwater flight be codeshares of the booking airline?
Using AA code for OSL-xLHR-JFK would make your YQ/YR total a bit lower. My calculation is 1302.51USD if you ticketed on 08SEP. Please always provide the marketing carrier booked, not the operating carrier, for RTW YQ/YR calculations, as the operating carrier does not matter.

To answer your question, while AA RTW desk may insist that the first overwater flight be on AA code, this is not a ticketing requirement by itself. AA technically has the capability to issue the ticket, but whether AA is willing to is another story. The first sector certainly does not need to be on AA code, as in many cases an AA code would not be available. For travel agents, having the first inter-TC (TPAC, TATL, or Europe/ME/Africa to Asia/Oceania) on a particular carrier would default the plating carrier to be that carrier, but this can be overridden with the desired plating carrier's approval.

Code:
WQOSL/AAA15SEP/CD/XLHR/AAA/CDJFK/AAS/CDSEA/AAS/CD/XLAX/AAA/CDSYD/AJL/CDHND/AQR/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDOSL-RW/SDFW/TDFW/VAA/B8SEP23«

    PSGR TYPE  ADT
      FARE BASIS BOOK CODE          FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS  TOTAL
    01 DGLOB34    D/D/D/D/* USD    5352.00  1302.05    6654.05 ADT
    02 DONE4      D/D/D/D/* USD    5408.00  1302.51    6710.51 ADT
    03 DONE5      D/D/D/D/* USD    6176.00  1309.40    7485.40 ADT
    04 DONE6      D/D/D/D/* USD    6967.00  1416.45    8383.45 ADT
    *01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    *01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
    *01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
    *01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
    ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
    ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ2«

    1 AAOPEND 15SEP 5 OSLLHR DS1   
    2 AAOPEND        LHRJFK DS1 
    3 ASOPEND        JFKSEA DS1 
    4 ASOPEND        SEALAX DS1 
    5 AAOPEND        LAXSYD DS1 
    6 JLOPEND        SYDHND DS1 
    7 QROPEND        HNDDOH DS1 
    8 QROPEND        DOHOSL DS1 
    PSGR TYPE  ADT - 02
        CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG
    OSL
    XLON AA  D  15SEP DONE4          15SEP 15SEP 02P
    NYC AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          16SEP 16SEP 02P
    SEA AS  D  OPEN  DONE4          17SEP 17SEP 02P
    XLAX AS  D  OPEN  DONE4          18SEP 18SEP 02P
    SYD AA  D  OPEN  DONE4          19SEP 19SEP 02P
    TYO JL  D  OPEN  DONE4          20SEP 20SEP 02P
    XDOH QR  D  OPEN  DONE4          21SEP 21SEP 02P
    OSL QR  D  OPEN  DONE4          22SEP 22SEP 02P
    FARE  NOK    57959 EQUIV USD  5408.00
    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  1261.71XT
    TOTAL USD  6710.51                                            ¥

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    ADT-01  DONE4                                                  ¥
    OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AS SEA AS X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR
    OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
    XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
    XT USD282.00YR USD642.60YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9
    XT USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
    ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
    TKT/TL09SEP23/0001
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
    ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-8
    ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
    ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-8
    ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ¥DF2«

    WQ¥DF2
    PSGR TYPE ADT
    FARE  NOK    57959 EQUIV USD  5408.00
    TAX  USD    29.90G2 USD    10.90ZN USD  1261.71XT
    TOTAL USD  6710.51
    OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AS SEA AS X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR OS
    L5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
    XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
    XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
    XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
    XT USD282.00YR USD642.60YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5S
    EA4.5LAX4.5
    RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
    /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
    PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
    01 DONE4      NOK  5675.60 OSL-OSL AA /RT RTG              RW
                        5675.60    -    TOTAL NUC
    -TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
          282.00        /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
            250.00:USD  250.00 *LHR* *AA*              9592500
              16.00:USD    16.00 *HND* *QR*                10007
              16.00:USD    16.00 *HND* *QR*                10007
          639.00        /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
            219.00:USD  219.00 *SYD* *JL*              1057374
            420.00:USD  420.00 *HND* *QR*                  888  ¥

MD«

            3.60        /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC    ¥
              3.60:USD    3.60 *SYD* *JL*              9040090
          38.30        AU/AU  PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE  PMC
              38.30:AUD    60.00 *SYD* *JL*          001    21250
          20.00        AU/WY  PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *SYD* *JL*          001  287500
          20.00        AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
              20.00:AUD    31.28 *LAX* *AA*          002  289375
          52.80        GB/UB  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
              52.80:GBP    42.14 *LHR* *AA*          001  4719958
            0.70        JP/OI  PASSENGER SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE
              0.70:JPY      100 *HND* *QR*          001    75025
          20.00        JP/SW  PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
              20.00:JPY    2950 *HND* *QR*          001  475000
            6.80        JP/TK  INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
              6.80:JPY    1000 *HND* *QR*          001  100000
          29.90        NO/G2  AIR PASSENGER TAX
              29.90:NOK      320 *OSL* *AA*          001  160000
          10.90        NO/ZN  PASSENGER CHARGE
              10.90:NOK      117 *OSL* *AA*          001  112500
          16.50        QA/G4  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC
              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  105000
            0.50        QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS  ¥

MD«

              0.50:USD    0.50 *HND* *QR*          002  110000  ¥
          16.50        QA/QA  AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
              16.50:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001    25000
            2.70        QA/R9  PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
              2.70:QAR    10.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  110000
          11.20        US/AY  PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
              5.60:USD    5.60 *JFK*              001  828212
              5.60:USD    5.60 *SEA*              001  828212
          48.46        US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL
              34.73:USD    34.73 *JFK* *AS*          012  510000
              13.73:USD    13.73 *SEA* *AS*          012  510000
          42.20        US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
              21.10:USD    21.10 *LAX* *AA*          014  187890
              21.10:USD    21.10 *OSL* *AA*          015  137890
            3.83        US/XA  APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
              3.83:USD    3.83 *LHR* *AA*          001  112500
            7.00        US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
              7.00:USD    7.00 *LHR* *AA*          002  130000
            6.52        US/YC  CUSTOMS USER FEE
              6.52:USD    6.52 *LHR* *AA*          001  125000
            9.60        US/ZP  FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC
              4.80:USD    4.80 *JFK*              001  138750
              4.80:USD    4.80 *SEA*              001  138750  ¥

MD«

          13.50        US/XF  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE          ¥
              4.50:USD    4.50 *JFK*                 
              4.50:USD    4.50 *SEA*                 
              4.50:USD    4.50 *LAX*                 
    -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
      10.2119490  NOK-ROE  EFF 01SEP23*INDEF
    -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
    1NOK:0.09331275USD               
    -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
    1AUD:0.63830607USD                1GBP:1.25378973USD
    1JPY:0.00677938USD                1NOK:0.09331275USD
    1QAR:0.27461211USD               
    -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
      PU 01 - NORMAL  RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
    .

ademanuele Sep 11, 2023 11:31 am
Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35570936)
Using AA code for OSL-xLHR-JFK would make your YQ/YR total a bit lower. My calculation is 1302.51USD if you ticketed on 08SEP. Please always provide the marketing carrier booked, not the operating carrier, for RTW YQ/YR calculations, as the operating carrier does not matter.

To answer your question, while AA RTW desk may insist that the first overwater flight be on AA code, this is not a ticketing requirement by itself. AA technically has the capability to issue the ticket, but whether AA is willing to is another story. The first sector certainly does not need to be on AA code, as in many cases an AA code would not be available. For travel agents, having the first inter-TC (TPAC, TATL, or Europe/ME/Africa to Asia/Oceania) on a particular carrier would default the plating carrier to be that carrier, but this can be overridden with the desired plating carrier's approval.


Code:
WQOSL/AAA15SEP/CD/XLHR/AAA/CDJFK/AAS/CDSEA/AAS/CD/XLAX/AAA/CDSYD/AJL/CDHND/AQR/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDOSL-RW/SDFW/TDFW/VAA/B8SEP23«

PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL
01 DGLOB34 D/D/D/D/* USD 5352.00 1302.05 6654.05 ADT
02 DONE4 D/D/D/D/* USD 5408.00 1302.51 6710.51 ADT
03 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 6176.00 1309.40 7485.40 ADT
04 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 6967.00 1416.45 8383.45 ADT
*01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
*01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
*01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
*01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.

WQ2«

1 AAOPEND 15SEP 5 OSLLHR DS1
2 AAOPEND LHRJFK DS1
3 ASOPEND JFKSEA DS1
4 ASOPEND SEALAX DS1
5 AAOPEND LAXSYD DS1
6 JLOPEND SYDHND DS1
7 QROPEND HNDDOH DS1
8 QROPEND DOHOSL DS1
PSGR TYPE ADT - 02
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
OSL
XLON AA D 15SEP DONE4 15SEP 15SEP 02P
NYC AA D OPEN DONE4 16SEP 16SEP 02P
SEA AS D OPEN DONE4 17SEP 17SEP 02P
XLAX AS D OPEN DONE4 18SEP 18SEP 02P
SYD AA D OPEN DONE4 19SEP 19SEP 02P
TYO JL D OPEN DONE4 20SEP 20SEP 02P
XDOH QR D OPEN DONE4 21SEP 21SEP 02P
OSL QR D OPEN DONE4 22SEP 22SEP 02P
FARE NOK 57959 EQUIV USD 5408.00
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 1261.71XT
TOTAL USD 6710.51 ¥

MD«

ADT-01 DONE4 ¥
OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AS SEA AS X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR
OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
XT USD282.00YR USD642.60YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9
XT USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL09SEP23/0001
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-8
ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-8
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.

WQ¥DF2«

WQ¥DF2
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE NOK 57959 EQUIV USD 5408.00
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 1261.71XT
TOTAL USD 6710.51
OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AS SEA AS X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR OS
L5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
XT USD282.00YR USD642.60YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5S
EA4.5LAX4.5
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
01 DONE4 NOK 5675.60 OSL-OSL AA /RT RTG RW
5675.60 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
282.00 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
250.00:USD 250.00 *LHR* *AA* 9592500
16.00:USD 16.00 *HND* *QR* 10007
16.00:USD 16.00 *HND* *QR* 10007
639.00 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
219.00:USD 219.00 *SYD* *JL* 1057374
420.00:USD 420.00 *HND* *QR* 888 ¥

MD«

3.60 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC ¥
3.60:USD 3.60 *SYD* *JL* 9040090
38.30 AU/AU PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE PMC
38.30:AUD 60.00 *SYD* *JL* 001 21250
20.00 AU/WY PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
20.00:AUD 31.28 *SYD* *JL* 001 287500
20.00 AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
20.00:AUD 31.28 *LAX* *AA* 002 289375
52.80 GB/UB PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
52.80:GBP 42.14 *LHR* *AA* 001 4719958
0.70 JP/OI PASSENGER SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE
0.70:JPY 100 *HND* *QR* 001 75025
20.00 JP/SW PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
20.00:JPY 2950 *HND* *QR* 001 475000
6.80 JP/TK INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
6.80:JPY 1000 *HND* *QR* 001 100000
29.90 NO/G2 AIR PASSENGER TAX
29.90:NOK 320 *OSL* *AA* 001 160000
10.90 NO/ZN PASSENGER CHARGE
10.90:NOK 117 *OSL* *AA* 001 112500
16.50 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000
0.50 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS ¥

MD«

0.50:USD 0.50 *HND* *QR* 002 110000 ¥
16.50 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000
2.70 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
2.70:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000
11.20 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
5.60:USD 5.60 *JFK* 001 828212
5.60:USD 5.60 *SEA* 001 828212
48.46 US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL
34.73:USD 34.73 *JFK* *AS* 012 510000
13.73:USD 13.73 *SEA* *AS* 012 510000
42.20 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
21.10:USD 21.10 *LAX* *AA* 014 187890
21.10:USD 21.10 *OSL* *AA* 015 137890
3.83 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
3.83:USD 3.83 *LHR* *AA* 001 112500
7.00 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
7.00:USD 7.00 *LHR* *AA* 002 130000
6.52 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE
6.52:USD 6.52 *LHR* *AA* 001 125000
9.60 US/ZP FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC
4.80:USD 4.80 *JFK* 001 138750
4.80:USD 4.80 *SEA* 001 138750 ¥

MD«

13.50 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE ¥
4.50:USD 4.50 *JFK*
4.50:USD 4.50 *SEA*
4.50:USD 4.50 *LAX*
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
10.2119490 NOK-ROE EFF 01SEP23*INDEF
-BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
1NOK:0.09331275USD
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
1AUD:0.63830607USD 1GBP:1.25378973USD
1JPY:0.00677938USD 1NOK:0.09331275USD
1QAR:0.27461211USD
-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
PU 01 - NORMAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
.
I will be booking my first RTW next year. As a BA Gold member I would get more Avios using the BA code (if there is one) rather than the operating carrier, but would incur higher charges. Would the increase in charges outweigh the value of the earned Avios? I assume that Avios will continue to be earned using the current method based on distance travelled rather than spend for RTW?

steveholt Sep 11, 2023 11:40 am
Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 35571011)
I will be booking my first RTW next year. As a BA Gold member I would get more Avios using the BA code (if there is one) rather than the operating carrier, but would incur higher charges. Would the increase in charges outweigh the value of the earned Avios? I assume that Avios will continue to be earned using the current method based on distance travelled rather than spend for RTW?
I don't think we can really say until BA announces their changes in full. It may be the case that they earn based on distance for some airlines and not others depending on whether they're under the IAG umbrella or part of the TATL JV.

ernestnywang Sep 11, 2023 12:05 pm
Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 35571011)
Would the increase in charges outweigh the value of the earned Avios?
As I calculated above, specifically for a start using OSL-xLHR-JFK based on the current rate, the difference between using AA code vs. BA code is 1320.85-1302.51=18.34USD, when plated on AA. The BA charge being slightly higher.

UserMark Sep 25, 2023 2:58 pm
Originally Posted by BNELHR;35525690
In short, it was [i
incredibly[/i] painful - only go through CX if you have time on your hands and access to a good CX agent. Here is my experience:Ineptitude / Internal Politics: It was confirmed to me that the (internal CX) "Oneworld desk" still exists. But customers are not allowed to speak directly to them. The instruction from the desk is that, if a customer requests an RTW ticket, CX Global Contact Centre personnel are to use the OW online RTW tool to check availability and price xONEx tickets. As we all know, that is rubbish so, correspondingly, GCC agents typically tell you that a valid itinerary is invalid because of bugs in the tool. I had to really push them to prove that my routing was valid before they would escalate to the Oneworld desk for manual approval; I was able to do this by giving them my Amadeus PNR for the same routing made through AA RTW desk (and which AA had rated so I could handover the pricing too for them to verify). GCCs can, at least, hold inventory pending Oneworld desk approval, but they are unable to price until manually approved by Oneworld desk if the agent can't price it through the OW online RTW tool.
I want to get a ticket issued by CX, but I have not been able to get as far as BNELHR. I tried a couple of times with their WhatsApp chat and I asked them to book what I want and send it to the oneworld desk, but they insist that they are unable to book other airlines at all. Apparently I just don't know the magic words to get this done. Maybe it will work if I call. The oneworld site does not even show the flights that I want.


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