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Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35827257)
Hi ernestnywang , thanks for your help last time with the taxes calculations. I have flown the first 2 segments of the itinerary and am now finalizing the rest. Currently I am looking at this:
...-JFK-(AA)-MEX-(AA)-xDFW-(AA)-SEA-(AS)-HNL-(AS)-SFO-(AA)-JFK-(JL)-HND-(JL)-SYD-(QF)-AKL-(CX)-HKG-(CX)-BKK-(JL)-NRT-(QF)-xDOH-(QF)-OSL These segments seem to be available as codeshares: JFK-HND: JL5 or AA8402 SYD-AKL: QF145 or AA7337 BKK-NRT: JL708 or AA8412 NRT-DOH: QR807 or JL7995 Could you check what the difference in taxes would be if I managed to book these codeshares? Airline carrier surcharges can vary. Assume the flights to/from DOH are QR Qatar and not QF Qantas. Starting in JFK and ending in OSL? Or starting/ending OSL? http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ablu...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ared...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 35827527)
Real taxes and regulatory fees are the same for all carriers on the same route/class of travel.
Airline carrier surcharges can vary. Assume the flights to/from DOH are QR Qatar and not QF Qantas. Starting in JFK and ending in OSL? Or starting/ending OSL? |
Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35827257)
Hi ernestnywang , thanks for your help last time with the taxes calculations. I have flown the first 2 segments of the itinerary and am now finalizing the rest. Currently I am looking at this:
...-JFK-(AA)-MEX-(AA)-xDFW-(AA)-SEA-(AS)-HNL-(AS)-SFO-(AA)-JFK-(JL)-HND-(JL)-SYD-(QF)-AKL-(CX)-HKG-(CX)-BKK-(JL)-NRT-(QR)-xDOH-(QR)-OSL ... 4(b) Travel must be in a continuous forward direction between TC1 - TC2 - TC3. Backtracking within a continent is permitted except as follows: Backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America is not permitted. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 35827849)
The highlighted routing is invalid. From the fare rules:
4(b) Travel must be in a continuous forward direction between TC1 - TC2 - TC3. Backtracking within a continent is permitted except as follows: Backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America is not permitted. |
Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35827917)
Good catch. Back to the drawing board... Would still like to know the difference in taxes for those other segments.
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Originally Posted by allset2travel
(Post 35830587)
ITA Matrix maybe your friend.
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Currently in Dallas in the middle of a DONE 4. Going westward. MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW-HND...All my 16 segments are booked after that.
Can I switch that departure from DFW to ORD and pay the $125 fee? Or would that switch from DFW to ORD count as an additional segment (I don't have room for)? |
Originally Posted by Viajero Millero
(Post 35845527)
Currently in Dallas in the middle of a DONE 4. Going westward. MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW-HND...All my 16 segments are booked after that.
Can I switch that departure from DFW to ORD and pay the $125 fee? Or would that switch from DFW to ORD count as an additional segment (I don't have room for)? From the rules: (h) A minimum of 3 and maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any 2 airports, are permitted for the entire journey. |
Originally Posted by Viajero Millero
(Post 35845527)
Currently in Dallas in the middle of a DONE 4. Going westward. MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW-HND...All my 16 segments are booked after that.
Can I switch that departure from DFW to ORD and pay the $125 fee? Or would that switch from DFW to ORD count as an additional segment (I don't have room for)? |
Originally Posted by Viajero Millero
(Post 35845527)
Currently in Dallas in the middle of a DONE 4. Going westward. MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW-HND...All my 16 segments are booked after that.
Can I switch that departure from DFW to ORD and pay the $125 fee? Or would that switch from DFW to ORD count as an additional segment (I don't have room for)?
Originally Posted by hsmall
(Post 35845723)
I think you would be best advised to change the ANC flight to ORD, if that can be done. Otherwise as has been said you are adding a segment, which no can do.
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Noted. Thank you. I still got a bunch of Asia stuff pending and even SYD-PER-LHR-DOH :cool:
I guess I can cut there if needed be. Thank you! |
We will be booking a RTW early 2024 (for travel in 2025). I had originally planned to start in Oslo but was wondering whether I would be making a significant saving once I take into account an overnight stay in Oslo and return flights. There is also the convenience of starting our journey at our local airport (MAN). Can anyone give me an approximate difference for the following itinerary (DONE5) starting/finishing in either OSL or MAN?
(MAN or OSL)-DOH-NBO-DOH-PER-SYD-CHC-SYS-HKG-BOM-KUL-SIN-HND-LAX-JFK-DOH-(MAN or OSL) Thanks... |
Originally Posted by ademanuele
(Post 35852708)
We will be booking a RTW early 2024 (for travel in 2025). I had originally planned to start in Oslo but was wondering whether I would be making a significant saving once I take into account an overnight stay in Oslo and return flights. There is also the convenience of starting our journey at our local airport (MAN). Can anyone give me an approximate difference for the following itinerary (DONE5) starting/finishing in either OSL or MAN?
(MAN or OSL)-DOH-NBO-DOH-PER-SYD-CHC-SYS-HKG-BOM-KUL-SIN-HND-LAX-JFK-DOH-(MAN or OSL) Thanks... £6910 MAN v £5112 OSL…..have you not got an EF account? |
Originally Posted by Alan T
(Post 35852723)
As of today, the base fare difference is £1798 per person, assuming all other things are equal.
£6910 MAN v £5112 OSL…..have you not got an EF account? |
Originally Posted by ademanuele
(Post 35852930)
Thanks, that's helpful, quite a difference. I opened an EF account last week but not used in anger, was not aware that you could price a RTW trip on EF, will have a play in the New Year...
Assuming your route is fixed, then the other cost variables will be who you book via/who tickets it and who you fly with on each segment including prime and codeshares etc. |
Fare suggestion for RTW trip departing Oslo
Hi, many thanks to all for posting valuable information.
On the OneWorld website this RTW trip costs approx. $7800. Are there any suggestions on how to make it less money? I am a little flexible. OSL-BKK-HKG-SYD-AVV-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-CIA-OSL Departure from Oslo is March 14.2024 |
Originally Posted by ademanuele
(Post 35852708)
We will be booking a RTW early 2024 (for travel in 2025). I had originally planned to start in Oslo but was wondering whether I would be making a significant saving once I take into account an overnight stay in Oslo and return flights. There is also the convenience of starting our journey at our local airport (MAN). Can anyone give me an approximate difference for the following itinerary (DONE5) starting/finishing in either OSL or MAN?
(MAN or OSL)-DOH-NBO-DOH-PER-SYD-CHC-SYS-HKG-BOM-KUL-SIN-HND-LAX-JFK-DOH-(MAN or OSL) . Adding NBO changes from DON4 to DONE5. [pandaPerth confirm?] Worth the cost and 2 segments? Could have a separate ticket to east Africa KUL-SIN is short trip by land (bus rail) or cheap air ticket. QF fly to DEL & BLR in India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_destinations Going to the extreme of a region then backwards in that region can increased earning in ff miles & status to a ffp. Check the distances vs status earnings Exaple DOH-AKL non stop [QR] and then back to Australia A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper |
Originally Posted by ademanuele
(Post 35852708)
We will be booking a RTW early 2024 (for travel in 2025). I had originally planned to start in Oslo but was wondering whether I would be making a significant saving once I take into account an overnight stay in Oslo and return flights. There is also the convenience of starting our journey at our local airport (MAN). Can anyone give me an approximate difference for the following itinerary (DONE5) starting/finishing in either OSL or MAN?
(MAN or OSL)-DOH-NBO-DOH-PER-SYD-CHC-SYS-HKG-BOM-KUL-SIN-HND-LAX-JFK-DOH-(MAN or OSL) Thanks... Radisson points? There are three airport hotels on site at OSL that are reasonable. Out of pocket, you're probably looking at £250 to fly from MAN to OSL and stay at an airport hotel. If you take others suggestions and remove a leg or two, you can fly DOH-LHR-OSL and get off the plane at LHR and book your preferred trip home to MAN separately. |
Greetings and thank you to all for posting such valuable information.
In 2024 I wish to depart Oslo and include a visit to Australia. This is my itinerary which is priced at $7700 Would there be a way to lower the price as I am flexible. Mar. 13 departure OSL-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL Thank you. |
Originally Posted by Rom33
(Post 35856166)
OSL-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL
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Hi.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the help and advice I received from this thread and its posters. I now have a RTW booked and paid for with all fights confirmed and seats assigned - until it no doubt unravels when I get schedule changes/cancellations and equipment changes over the next 9 months….or I change something! :D Route is: OSL>(LHR)>JFK>LAX>HND>SIN>(SYD)> HBA>(MEL)>AKL>(SYD)>HKG>(DOH)>CPT>(LHR)>DOH>OSL. Transits in brackets. Had to make a few changes to Plan A due to availability (schedules and D class) but happy with what I have. Cheers. |
Ok, I placed the transits in the equation.
OSL-(HEL)-BKK-HKG-SYD-Bus to MEL-MEL-LAX-Car to SFO-SFO-EWR-Car to PHL-PHL-FCO-OSL Total cost is $7781 for business. Are there any suggestions to make the trip less expensive? Thank you Thank you to all who have posted on this thread. My plan for March, 2024 OSL-(HEL)-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL HEL being a transit. The OneWorld site lists the cost at $7781 Any suggestions on how to lower the cost? Thank you Hi, Thank you for the suggestion. Departure March 9, 2024 and finishing on June 1. OSL-(HEL)-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL. I am lookiing for any suggestions on lowering the price. |
Originally Posted by Alan T
(Post 35857976)
Hi.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the help and advice I received from this thread and its posters. I now have a RTW booked and paid for with all fights confirmed and seats assigned - until it no doubt unravels when I get schedule changes/cancellations and equipment changes over the next 9 months….or I change something! :D Route is: OSL>(LHR)>JFK>LAX>HND>SIN>(SYD)> HBA>(MEL)>AKL>(SYD)>HKG>(DOH)>CPT>(LHR)>DOH>OSL. Transits in brackets. Had to make a few changes to Plan A due to availability (schedules and D class) but happy with what I have. Cheers. |
I recommend checking directly with the airline or contacting their customer service for the most accurate and up-to-date information on the base fare for the Circle Pacific 26,000k in First Class (A). The One World website may have removed fare details, but the airline should provide the necessary information.
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
(Post 35880550)
Don't know if that AKL-SYD-HKG was intentional for TPs or lack of availability on CX, but if the later just keep an eye on EF. CX doesn't seem to be too stingy on AKL-HKG with D from what I've seen and it's a better experience than QF in my opinion. I just did it the opposite direction a little over a week ago and like CX's A350 much better than QF's A330s or 787s. (plus crew is night and day different)
From one perspective, our RTW is a 5.5 week (very) expensive TP run…….although that’s really a by-product of the trip we wanted to do anyway. |
Originally Posted by Rom33
(Post 35856166)
Greetings and thank you to all for posting such valuable information.
In 2024 I wish to depart Oslo and include a visit to Australia. This is my itinerary which is priced at $7700 Would there be a way to lower the price as I am flexible. Mar. 13 departure OSL-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL Thank you. |
I have an itinerary in progress and had to change the dates on the next 3 flights (moving them back by about a month). Same flight numbers, same everything except for dates. The AA desk says I owe a difference in taxes. Is that something new? Because I don't remember being charged anything for just date changes in the past.
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Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35902740)
I have an itinerary in progress and had to change the dates on the next 3 flights (moving them back by about a month). Same flight numbers, same everything except for dates. The AA desk says I owe a difference in taxes. Is that something new? Because I don't remember being charged anything for just date changes in the past.
There is nothing new about this other than maybe countries and airports are increasing taxes and fees more often these days. |
Hi steyeholt,
I took your suggestion and switched it around. And eliminated Quantas . Using Cathay Pacific instead. Flying from HKG-MEL-SYD-LAX The total price is $64XX.00 Thank you for the review. |
If I'm changing destinations in a ticketed itinerary is there a way to quote fees + taxes + surcharges before calling in to the AA RTW desk?
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I'm trying to book a RTW itinerary starting in PNH and I'm assuming I have to end in PNH. I've been trying to get BA to price something out for me but they keep rejecting it without an actual reason. I believe I've followed every possible rule and I know it's a YMMV situation but I'd love to get someones opinion on how I can fix this.
Also I do want to point out that my itinerary has 30 day stopovers in pretty much every country because I run a digital company and my location doesn't matter. I'd appreciate any advice I can get, I'm just in a time crunch to get this booked because I need to be in Saudi before March 9th. Can't attach images so going to list it out manually. February 10 PNH SGN Business February 10 SGN DOH Business April 16 DOH DUB Business May 5 DUB BCN Business May 22 BCN CMN Business June 11 CMN MIA Business June 30 MIA LAX Economy July 15 LAX HND Business August 20 HND SGN Business Sept 20 SGN PNH Business |
Originally Posted by MFCDV
(Post 35933866)
I'm trying to book a RTW itinerary starting in PNH and I'm assuming I have to end in PNH. I've been trying to get BA to price something out for me but they keep rejecting it without an actual reason. I believe I've followed every possible rule and I know it's a YMMV situation but I'd love to get someones opinion on how I can fix this.
Also I do want to point out that my itinerary has 30 day stopovers in pretty much every country because I run a digital company and my location doesn't matter. I'd appreciate any advice I can get, I'm just in a time crunch to get this booked because I need to be in Saudi before March 9th. Can't attach images so going to list it out manually. February 10 PNH SGN Business February 10 SGN DOH Business April 16 DOH DUB Business May 5 DUB BCN Business May 22 BCN CMN Business June 11 CMN MIA Business June 30 MIA LAX Economy July 15 LAX HND Business August 20 HND SGN Business Sept 20 SGN PNH Business The airline of the first flight usually tickets. At times people get other airlines to ticket. My first look is you have no BA flights PNH SGN is by QR. From what I have read on FT QR Qatar do not issue OW RTW (*ONE* *GLOB*), but Qantas QF issue for them. (needs confirmation) PNH-SGN is a very short flight (132 miles). Poor value in OW RTW tickets. Or is PNH-DOH 1 flight number on the day/aircraft? . So counts as 1 segment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phnom_...tional_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan_So...tional_Airport A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper |
Originally Posted by MFCDV
(Post 35933866)
I'm trying to book a RTW itinerary starting in PNH and I'm assuming I have to end in PNH. I've been trying to get BA to price something out for me but they keep rejecting it without an actual reason. I believe I've followed every possible rule and I know it's a YMMV situation but I'd love to get someones opinion on how I can fix this.
Also I do want to point out that my itinerary has 30 day stopovers in pretty much every country because I run a digital company and my location doesn't matter. I'd appreciate any advice I can get, I'm just in a time crunch to get this booked because I need to be in Saudi before March 9th. ... I prefer my colour scheme to Mwenenzi's :)) Firstly, your proposed itinerary is a valid 3-continent Oneworld Explorer (in business class that is a DONE3). Some salient points:
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Qantas ticketing for BA?
I am planning my 2024/2025 RTW - beginning from Cairo, first flight is CAI-LHR on BA.
Using the online tool I have managed to get an itinerary that *almost* works for me. And I took that itinerary right through to ticketing. And the ticket would be issued by Qantas!?? And priced in AUD?? (It's correct base fare in EGP converted to AUD) I knew QF was ticketing for ex-CAI itineraries that start with RJ, but why isn't BA doing its own ticketing I wonder. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 35950999)
I am planning my 2024/2025 RTW - beginning from Cairo, first flight is CAI-LHR on BA.
Using the online tool I have managed to get an itinerary that *almost* works for me. And I took that itinerary right through to ticketing. And the ticket would be issued by Qantas!?? And priced in AUD?? (It's correct base fare in EGP converted to AUD) I knew QF was ticketing for ex-CAI itineraries that start with RJ, but why isn't BA doing its own ticketing I wonder. Funny now that 6 months have passed I have nearly forgotten how horrible QF was to deal with on changes. CX on the other hand has been quite good on the very few modifications I've made so far, but I only deal with their WhatsApp team, the phone center seems useless just like QF. The downside is that I credit to AA and my AA segments on CX stock credited as Fare instead of Distance. On my QF ticket it was all Distance. Do you have or could you have any CX long haul segments to ticket with them? (Since AA also appears to be off the table ex-CAI for non-AA elites) |
EF is not showing any OW rtw fares filed for ex-CAI for AA and BA.
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Question: if I book a DONE4 ex-Japan fare going west and visiting Europe and N. America, once I come back to Asia, am I allowed to visit South Pacific and return to Asia to finish the itinerary?
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Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35958201)
Question: if I book a DONE4 ex-Japan fare going west and visiting Europe and N. America, once I come back to Asia, am I allowed to visit South Pacific and return to Asia to finish the itinerary?
4(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows: So your first departure will be Asia to Europe, and your first arrival will be North America to Asia.1. Two permitted in North America. 2. Two permitted in Asia. 3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa. If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa. And your second departure will be Asia to Oceania and your second arrival will be Oceania to Asia. But note also this rule: 4(f) Only one international departure and one international arrival from/to the country of origin permitted. So you cannot travel via Japan between Nth America and Oceania. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 35958948)
But note also this rule:
4(f) Only one international departure and one international arrival from/to the country of origin permitted. So you cannot travel via Japan between Nth America and Oceania. |
Having to scratch the visit to Australia I had on my RTW. Getting mixed information after an almost two-hour call with the AA desk.
I've flown CAI-DOH(connection)-FRA-MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW and still have left (as part of the original ticket) DFW-HND-SIN-HKG-ICN-SYD-PER-LHR-DOH. I'm looking to switch to DFW-JFK-HND-SIN-TYO(connection)-HKG-HEL(connection)-DOH-DXB...and the agent was pretty incredulous that it would be possible. I think I'm within the rules and in fact, I'm downgrading from a DONE4 to a DONE3. He did raise a point I'm not sure about, though. Said DOH-DXB (flight 16) would exceed my four-segment limit in Europe/ME? Is that correct? And if so, would ending the RTW with HEL-DOH or HEL-DXB take care of that issue? |
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