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Mwenenzi Dec 16, 2023 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35827257)
Hi ernestnywang , thanks for your help last time with the taxes calculations. I have flown the first 2 segments of the itinerary and am now finalizing the rest. Currently I am looking at this:
...-JFK-(AA)-MEX-(AA)-xDFW-(AA)-SEA-(AS)-HNL-(AS)-SFO-(AA)-JFK-(JL)-HND-(JL)-SYD-(QF)-AKL-(CX)-HKG-(CX)-BKK-(JL)-NRT-(QF)-xDOH-(QF)-OSL

These segments seem to be available as codeshares:
JFK-HND: JL5 or AA8402
SYD-AKL: QF145 or AA7337
BKK-NRT: JL708 or AA8412
NRT-DOH: QR807 or JL7995

Could you check what the difference in taxes would be if I managed to book these codeshares?

Real taxes and regulatory fees are the same for all carriers on the same route/class of travel.
Airline carrier surcharges can vary.

Assume the flights to/from DOH are QR Qatar and not QF Qantas.
Starting in JFK and ending in OSL? Or starting/ending OSL?

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ablu...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ared...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi

andreiz Dec 16, 2023 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 35827527)
Real taxes and regulatory fees are the same for all carriers on the same route/class of travel.
Airline carrier surcharges can vary.

I keep saying "taxes" when I mean "surcharges" (YR/YQ). My apologies.


Assume the flights to/from DOH are QR Qatar and not QF Qantas.
Yes, fixed.


Starting in JFK and ending in OSL? Or starting/ending OSL?
I started in OSL, but have already flown OSL-LHR-JFK, so the itinerary is paused there now.

pandaperth Dec 16, 2023 7:38 pm


Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35827257)
Hi ernestnywang , thanks for your help last time with the taxes calculations. I have flown the first 2 segments of the itinerary and am now finalizing the rest. Currently I am looking at this:

...-JFK-(AA)-MEX-(AA)-xDFW-(AA)-SEA-(AS)-HNL-(AS)-SFO-(AA)-JFK-(JL)-HND-(JL)-SYD-(QF)-AKL-(CX)-HKG-(CX)-BKK-(JL)-NRT-(QR)-xDOH-(QR)-OSL

...

The highlighted routing is invalid. From the fare rules:
4(b) Travel must be in a continuous forward direction between TC1 - TC2 - TC3.
Backtracking within a continent is permitted except as follows:
Backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America is not permitted.

andreiz Dec 16, 2023 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 35827849)
The highlighted routing is invalid. From the fare rules:
4(b) Travel must be in a continuous forward direction between TC1 - TC2 - TC3.
Backtracking within a continent is permitted except as follows:
Backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America is not permitted.

Good catch. Back to the drawing board... Would still like to know the difference in taxes for those other segments.

allset2travel Dec 17, 2023 11:37 pm


Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35827917)
Good catch. Back to the drawing board... Would still like to know the difference in taxes for those other segments.

ITA Matrix maybe your friend.

andreiz Dec 18, 2023 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 35830587)
ITA Matrix maybe your friend.

Matrix doesn't show the surcharges that QF and others charge on DONE itineraries, like ernestnywang was showing earlier in the thread.

Viajero Millero Dec 23, 2023 1:47 pm

Currently in Dallas in the middle of a DONE 4. Going westward. MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW-HND...All my 16 segments are booked after that.

Can I switch that departure from DFW to ORD and pay the $125 fee? Or would that switch from DFW to ORD count as an additional segment (I don't have room for)?

jerry a. laska Dec 23, 2023 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 35845527)
Currently in Dallas in the middle of a DONE 4. Going westward. MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW-HND...All my 16 segments are booked after that.

Can I switch that departure from DFW to ORD and pay the $125 fee? Or would that switch from DFW to ORD count as an additional segment (I don't have room for)?

Adding a surface segment DFW-ORD will add a segment to your AONE4 routing.
From the rules:

(h) A minimum of 3 and maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any 2 airports, are permitted for the entire journey.

hsmall Dec 23, 2023 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 35845527)
Currently in Dallas in the middle of a DONE 4. Going westward. MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW-HND...All my 16 segments are booked after that.

Can I switch that departure from DFW to ORD and pay the $125 fee? Or would that switch from DFW to ORD count as an additional segment (I don't have room for)?

I think you would be best advised to change the ANC flight to ORD, if that can be done. Otherwise as has been said you are adding a segment, which no can do.

jerry a. laska Dec 23, 2023 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 35845527)
Currently in Dallas in the middle of a DONE 4. Going westward. MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW-HND...All my 16 segments are booked after that.

Can I switch that departure from DFW to ORD and pay the $125 fee? Or would that switch from DFW to ORD count as an additional segment (I don't have room for)?


Originally Posted by hsmall (Post 35845723)
I think you would be best advised to change the ANC flight to ORD, if that can be done. Otherwise as has been said you are adding a segment, which no can do.

I think that ship has already sailed as Viajero Millero says he is currently in Dallas, but if not AS has two flights to ORD, one daily redeye and one 5x/week early morning.

Viajero Millero Dec 24, 2023 4:17 pm

Noted. Thank you. I still got a bunch of Asia stuff pending and even SYD-PER-LHR-DOH :cool:

I guess I can cut there if needed be. Thank you!

ademanuele Dec 27, 2023 6:18 am

We will be booking a RTW early 2024 (for travel in 2025). I had originally planned to start in Oslo but was wondering whether I would be making a significant saving once I take into account an overnight stay in Oslo and return flights. There is also the convenience of starting our journey at our local airport (MAN). Can anyone give me an approximate difference for the following itinerary (DONE5) starting/finishing in either OSL or MAN?

(MAN or OSL)-DOH-NBO-DOH-PER-SYD-CHC-SYS-HKG-BOM-KUL-SIN-HND-LAX-JFK-DOH-(MAN or OSL)

Thanks...

Alan T Dec 27, 2023 6:28 am


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 35852708)
We will be booking a RTW early 2024 (for travel in 2025). I had originally planned to start in Oslo but was wondering whether I would be making a significant saving once I take into account an overnight stay in Oslo and return flights. There is also the convenience of starting our journey at our local airport (MAN). Can anyone give me an approximate difference for the following itinerary (DONE5) starting/finishing in either OSL or MAN?

(MAN or OSL)-DOH-NBO-DOH-PER-SYD-CHC-SYS-HKG-BOM-KUL-SIN-HND-LAX-JFK-DOH-(MAN or OSL)

Thanks...

As of today, the base fare difference is £1798 per person, assuming all other things are equal.

£6910 MAN v £5112 OSL…..have you not got an EF account?

ademanuele Dec 27, 2023 8:24 am


Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 35852723)
As of today, the base fare difference is £1798 per person, assuming all other things are equal.

£6910 MAN v £5112 OSL…..have you not got an EF account?

Thanks, that's helpful, quite a difference. I opened an EF account last week but not used in anger, was not aware that you could price a RTW trip on EF, will have a play in the New Year...

Alan T Dec 27, 2023 9:33 am


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 35852930)
Thanks, that's helpful, quite a difference. I opened an EF account last week but not used in anger, was not aware that you could price a RTW trip on EF, will have a play in the New Year...

Only the base fare from each origin AFAIK.

Assuming your route is fixed, then the other cost variables will be who you book via/who tickets it and who you fly with on each segment including prime and codeshares etc.

Rom33 Dec 27, 2023 2:19 pm

Fare suggestion for RTW trip departing Oslo
 
Hi, many thanks to all for posting valuable information.

On the OneWorld website this RTW trip costs approx. $7800.
Are there any suggestions on how to make it less money? I am a little flexible.

​​​​​​OSL-BKK-HKG-SYD-AVV-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-CIA-OSL

Departure from Oslo is March 14.2024

Mwenenzi Dec 27, 2023 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 35852708)
We will be booking a RTW early 2024 (for travel in 2025). I had originally planned to start in Oslo but was wondering whether I would be making a significant saving once I take into account an overnight stay in Oslo and return flights. There is also the convenience of starting our journey at our local airport (MAN). Can anyone give me an approximate difference for the following itinerary (DONE5) starting/finishing in either OSL or MAN?

(MAN or OSL)-DOH-NBO-DOH-PER-SYD-CHC-SYS-HKG-BOM-KUL-SIN-HND-LAX-JFK-DOH-(MAN or OSL)

.

CX fly AKL-HKG and in southern summer CHC-HKG.

Adding NBO changes from DON4 to DONE5. [pandaPerth confirm?] Worth the cost and 2 segments? Could have a separate ticket to east Africa

KUL-SIN is short trip by land (bus rail) or cheap air ticket.

QF fly to DEL & BLR in India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_destinations

Going to the extreme of a region then backwards in that region can increased earning in ff miles & status to a ffp. Check the distances vs status earnings
Exaple DOH-AKL non stop [QR] and then back to Australia

A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper

steveholt Dec 27, 2023 9:23 pm


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 35852708)
We will be booking a RTW early 2024 (for travel in 2025). I had originally planned to start in Oslo but was wondering whether I would be making a significant saving once I take into account an overnight stay in Oslo and return flights. There is also the convenience of starting our journey at our local airport (MAN). Can anyone give me an approximate difference for the following itinerary (DONE5) starting/finishing in either OSL or MAN?

(MAN or OSL)-DOH-NBO-DOH-PER-SYD-CHC-SYS-HKG-BOM-KUL-SIN-HND-LAX-JFK-DOH-(MAN or OSL)

Thanks...

Do you have Avios? You can use BA points to fly MAN-LHR-OSL for a modest cost. *A miles? MAN-OSL direct on SAS is available or runs about £80 in cash.

Radisson points? There are three airport hotels on site at OSL that are reasonable.

Out of pocket, you're probably looking at £250 to fly from MAN to OSL and stay at an airport hotel. If you take others suggestions and remove a leg or two, you can fly DOH-LHR-OSL and get off the plane at LHR and book your preferred trip home to MAN separately.

Rom33 Dec 28, 2023 11:37 am

Greetings and thank you to all for posting such valuable information.

In 2024 I wish to depart Oslo and include a visit to Australia. This is my itinerary which is priced at $7700
Would there be a way to lower the price as I am flexible.

Mar. 13 departure

OSL-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL

Thank you.

henry999 Dec 28, 2023 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by Rom33 (Post 35856166)
OSL-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL

I don't believe there are any direct flights OSL-BKK on any Oneworld carriers. If you want good advice, please give us your complete itinerary (i.e., including transfers).

Alan T Dec 29, 2023 5:13 am

Hi.

Just wanted to say thanks for all the help and advice I received from this thread and its posters.

I now have a RTW booked and paid for with all fights confirmed and seats assigned - until it no doubt unravels when I get schedule changes/cancellations and equipment changes over the next 9 months….or I change something! :D

Route is:

OSL>(LHR)>JFK>LAX>HND>SIN>(SYD)> HBA>(MEL)>AKL>(SYD)>HKG>(DOH)>CPT>(LHR)>DOH>OSL.

Transits in brackets. Had to make a few changes to Plan A due to availability (schedules and D class) but happy with what I have.

Cheers.

Rom33 Dec 29, 2023 6:01 am

Ok, I placed the transits in the equation.

OSL-(HEL)-BKK-HKG-SYD-Bus to MEL-MEL-LAX-Car to SFO-SFO-EWR-Car to PHL-PHL-FCO-OSL

Total cost is $7781 for business.


Are there any suggestions to make the trip less expensive?
Thank you

Thank you to all who have posted on this thread.
My plan for March, 2024

OSL-(HEL)-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL

HEL being a transit.


The OneWorld site lists the cost at $7781

Any suggestions on how to lower the cost?
Thank you

Hi,
Thank you for the suggestion.

Departure March 9, 2024 and finishing on June 1.

OSL-(HEL)-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL.

I am lookiing for any suggestions on lowering the price.

dvs7310 Jan 5, 2024 6:36 pm


Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 35857976)
Hi.

Just wanted to say thanks for all the help and advice I received from this thread and its posters.

I now have a RTW booked and paid for with all fights confirmed and seats assigned - until it no doubt unravels when I get schedule changes/cancellations and equipment changes over the next 9 months….or I change something! :D

Route is:

OSL>(LHR)>JFK>LAX>HND>SIN>(SYD)> HBA>(MEL)>AKL>(SYD)>HKG>(DOH)>CPT>(LHR)>DOH>OSL.

Transits in brackets. Had to make a few changes to Plan A due to availability (schedules and D class) but happy with what I have.

Cheers.

Don't know if that AKL-SYD-HKG was intentional for TPs or lack of availability on CX, but if the later just keep an eye on EF. CX doesn't seem to be too stingy on AKL-HKG with D from what I've seen and it's a better experience than QF in my opinion. I just did it the opposite direction a little over a week ago and like CX's A350 much better than QF's A330s or 787s. (plus crew is night and day different)

jackws Jan 6, 2024 1:30 pm

I recommend checking directly with the airline or contacting their customer service for the most accurate and up-to-date information on the base fare for the Circle Pacific 26,000k in First Class (A). The One World website may have removed fare details, but the airline should provide the necessary information.

Alan T Jan 6, 2024 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 35880550)
Don't know if that AKL-SYD-HKG was intentional for TPs or lack of availability on CX, but if the later just keep an eye on EF. CX doesn't seem to be too stingy on AKL-HKG with D from what I've seen and it's a better experience than QF in my opinion. I just did it the opposite direction a little over a week ago and like CX's A350 much better than QF's A330s or 787s. (plus crew is night and day different)

That was the original plan A , but CX hadn’t released their schedule when I booked it. However, it appeared last week. It is operating on the day we intend to leave AKL but ‘Trip CEO’ is not keen on the 21.15 arrival time at HKG…plus we get another 40TPs (that we won’t need to re-qualify for Gold anyway). Not sure where I’d use the spare segment now given our arrangements for OSL? I was thinking of dropping the last segment by flying LHR>DOH>LHR>OSL at the end but I’ve now nested the RTW within a holiday booking to OSL, and I have no time for additional stopovers on the itinerary.

From one perspective, our RTW is a 5.5 week (very) expensive TP run…….although that’s really a by-product of the trip we wanted to do anyway.

steveholt Jan 11, 2024 11:02 am


Originally Posted by Rom33 (Post 35856166)
Greetings and thank you to all for posting such valuable information.

In 2024 I wish to depart Oslo and include a visit to Australia. This is my itinerary which is priced at $7700
Would there be a way to lower the price as I am flexible.

Mar. 13 departure

OSL-BKK-HKG-SYD-MEL-LAX-SFO-EWR-PHL-FCO-OSL

Thank you.

QF adds a significant surcharge on their flights to/from the US. Instead of flying MEL-LAX, you're probably better off flying HKG-MEL-SYD-LAX and flying SYD-LAX on AA, which would save you about $1200 US. You could also fly MEL-AKL on QF and AKL-LAX on AA and that would probably be cheaper.

andreiz Jan 12, 2024 10:28 am

I have an itinerary in progress and had to change the dates on the next 3 flights (moving them back by about a month). Same flight numbers, same everything except for dates. The AA desk says I owe a difference in taxes. Is that something new? Because I don't remember being charged anything for just date changes in the past.

jerry a. laska Jan 12, 2024 10:46 am


Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35902740)
I have an itinerary in progress and had to change the dates on the next 3 flights (moving them back by about a month). Same flight numbers, same everything except for dates. The AA desk says I owe a difference in taxes. Is that something new? Because I don't remember being charged anything for just date changes in the past.

While a reissue fee wouldn’t/shouldn’t be charged for date changes, taxes will be checked and if there has been any intervening increases/changes since the time you originally issued the ticket you are responsible for those changes in taxes.

There is nothing new about this other than maybe countries and airports are increasing taxes and fees more often these days.

Rom33 Jan 12, 2024 11:18 am

Hi steyeholt,

I took your suggestion and switched it around.
And eliminated Quantas . Using Cathay Pacific instead.
Flying from HKG-MEL-SYD-LAX

The total price is $64XX.00

Thank you for the review.

Viajero Millero Jan 14, 2024 4:11 pm

If I'm changing destinations in a ticketed itinerary is there a way to quote fees + taxes + surcharges before calling in to the AA RTW desk?

MFCDV Jan 22, 2024 10:33 pm

I'm trying to book a RTW itinerary starting in PNH and I'm assuming I have to end in PNH. I've been trying to get BA to price something out for me but they keep rejecting it without an actual reason. I believe I've followed every possible rule and I know it's a YMMV situation but I'd love to get someones opinion on how I can fix this.

Also I do want to point out that my itinerary has 30 day stopovers in pretty much every country because I run a digital company and my location doesn't matter. I'd appreciate any advice I can get, I'm just in a time crunch to get this booked because I need to be in Saudi before March 9th.

Can't attach images so going to list it out manually.

February 10 PNH SGN Business
February 10 SGN DOH Business
April 16 DOH DUB Business
May 5 DUB BCN Business
May 22 BCN CMN Business
June 11 CMN MIA Business
June 30 MIA LAX Economy
July 15 LAX HND Business
August 20 HND SGN Business
Sept 20 SGN PNH Business

Mwenenzi Jan 22, 2024 11:45 pm


Originally Posted by MFCDV (Post 35933866)
I'm trying to book a RTW itinerary starting in PNH and I'm assuming I have to end in PNH. I've been trying to get BA to price something out for me but they keep rejecting it without an actual reason. I believe I've followed every possible rule and I know it's a YMMV situation but I'd love to get someones opinion on how I can fix this.

Also I do want to point out that my itinerary has 30 day stopovers in pretty much every country because I run a digital company and my location doesn't matter. I'd appreciate any advice I can get, I'm just in a time crunch to get this booked because I need to be in Saudi before March 9th.

Can't attach images so going to list it out manually.
February 10 PNH SGN Business
February 10 SGN DOH Business
April 16 DOH DUB Business
May 5 DUB BCN Business
May 22 BCN CMN Business
June 11 CMN MIA Business
June 30 MIA LAX Economy
July 15 LAX HND Business
August 20 HND SGN Business
Sept 20 SGN PNH Business

Cash ticket? OW *ONE* ? https://www.oneworld.com/world-travel
The airline of the first flight usually tickets. At times people get other airlines to ticket. My first look is you have no BA flights
PNH SGN is by QR. From what I have read on FT QR Qatar do not issue OW RTW (*ONE* *GLOB*), but Qantas QF issue for them. (needs confirmation)
PNH-SGN is a very short flight (132 miles). Poor value in OW RTW tickets. Or is PNH-DOH 1 flight number on the day/aircraft? . So counts as 1 segment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phnom_...tional_Airport
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan_So...tional_Airport

A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper

pandaperth Jan 23, 2024 4:58 am


Originally Posted by MFCDV (Post 35933866)
I'm trying to book a RTW itinerary starting in PNH and I'm assuming I have to end in PNH. I've been trying to get BA to price something out for me but they keep rejecting it without an actual reason. I believe I've followed every possible rule and I know it's a YMMV situation but I'd love to get someones opinion on how I can fix this.

Also I do want to point out that my itinerary has 30 day stopovers in pretty much every country because I run a digital company and my location doesn't matter. I'd appreciate any advice I can get, I'm just in a time crunch to get this booked because I need to be in Saudi before March 9th.
...

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...37a18b641a.gif
I prefer my colour scheme to Mwenenzi's :))

Firstly, your proposed itinerary is a valid 3-continent Oneworld Explorer (in business class that is a DONE3).
Some salient points:
  • As far as I can tell, there is no Oneworld flight DUB-BCN, so that will take two flights, probably via LON (resulting there being four flights in Europe/Middle East which is the maximum allowed - DOH-DUB-LON-BCN-CMN)
  • All the other flights appear to be OK
  • You are allowed a maximum of two stopovers in your continent of origin (Asia), and you appear to be OK there with your first visit to SGN being a transit and your two allowed stopovers being at the end - HND and SGN
  • The general rule is you must end in the same country from where started. There are a few exceptions, but Cambodia is not one of them
  • At most you have two BA flights, and short haul ones at that (DUB-LON-BCN) so I expect that is why BA is not interested in ticketing for you (but it would good if they told you that!)
  • QF does not ticket for QR (in the online tool itineraries that begin with RJ are ticketed by QF, but itineraries that begin with QR cannot be ticketed in the tool)
  • So you could use a travel agent to ticket or, if you use AA to fly LAX-HND then you could ticket with the AA RTW desk
  • You are using only 11 of the allowed 16 segments so you could have extra stopovers in North America (Carribean and/or Central America perhaps) - you are allowed up to six flight segments in Nth America
  • Japan is a significantly less expensive starting point than Cambodia (go figure!). ex-PNH base fare is USD9748, ex-HND is JPY656300 = USD4431)

pandaperth Jan 29, 2024 3:31 am

Qantas ticketing for BA?
 
I am planning my 2024/2025 RTW - beginning from Cairo, first flight is CAI-LHR on BA.
Using the online tool I have managed to get an itinerary that *almost* works for me.
And I took that itinerary right through to ticketing.
And the ticket would be issued by Qantas!??
And priced in AUD?? (It's correct base fare in EGP converted to AUD)

I knew QF was ticketing for ex-CAI itineraries that start with RJ, but why isn't BA doing its own ticketing I wonder.

dvs7310 Jan 30, 2024 7:54 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 35950999)
I am planning my 2024/2025 RTW - beginning from Cairo, first flight is CAI-LHR on BA.
Using the online tool I have managed to get an itinerary that *almost* works for me.
And I took that itinerary right through to ticketing.
And the ticket would be issued by Qantas!??
And priced in AUD?? (It's correct base fare in EGP converted to AUD)

I knew QF was ticketing for ex-CAI itineraries that start with RJ, but why isn't BA doing its own ticketing I wonder.

Didn't BA stop ticketing ex-CAI sometime last year? That could be why the tool is kicking it over to QF, but yes if it's showing AUD then it's almost certainly going to get ticketed by QF.

Funny now that 6 months have passed I have nearly forgotten how horrible QF was to deal with on changes. CX on the other hand has been quite good on the very few modifications I've made so far, but I only deal with their WhatsApp team, the phone center seems useless just like QF. The downside is that I credit to AA and my AA segments on CX stock credited as Fare instead of Distance. On my QF ticket it was all Distance.

Do you have or could you have any CX long haul segments to ticket with them? (Since AA also appears to be off the table ex-CAI for non-AA elites)

jerry a. laska Jan 30, 2024 9:40 pm

EF is not showing any OW rtw fares filed for ex-CAI for AA and BA.

andreiz Jan 31, 2024 10:39 am

Question: if I book a DONE4 ex-Japan fare going west and visiting Europe and N. America, once I come back to Asia, am I allowed to visit South Pacific and return to Asia to finish the itinerary?

pandaperth Jan 31, 2024 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 35958201)
Question: if I book a DONE4 ex-Japan fare going west and visiting Europe and N. America, once I come back to Asia, am I allowed to visit South Pacific and return to Asia to finish the itinerary?

Yes. The relevant rule is:
4(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
1. Two permitted in North America.
2. Two permitted in Asia.
3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa. If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
So your first departure will be Asia to Europe, and your first arrival will be North America to Asia.
And your second departure will be Asia to Oceania and your second arrival will be Oceania to Asia.

But note also this rule:
4(f) Only one international departure and one international arrival from/to the country of origin permitted.
So you cannot travel via Japan between Nth America and Oceania.

andreiz Jan 31, 2024 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 35958948)
But note also this rule:
4(f) Only one international departure and one international arrival from/to the country of origin permitted.
So you cannot travel via Japan between Nth America and Oceania.

Good point. I suppose I could also go N. America-Oceania-Asia (keeping in mind 2 stopover limit in continent of origin).

Viajero Millero Feb 8, 2024 12:36 am

Having to scratch the visit to Australia I had on my RTW. Getting mixed information after an almost two-hour call with the AA desk.

I've flown CAI-DOH(connection)-FRA-MAD-MEX-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW and still have left (as part of the original ticket) DFW-HND-SIN-HKG-ICN-SYD-PER-LHR-DOH.

I'm looking to switch to DFW-JFK-HND-SIN-TYO(connection)-HKG-HEL(connection)-DOH-DXB...and the agent was pretty incredulous that it would be possible. I think I'm within the rules and in fact, I'm downgrading from a DONE4 to a DONE3.

He did raise a point I'm not sure about, though. Said DOH-DXB (flight 16) would exceed my four-segment limit in Europe/ME? Is that correct?

And if so, would ending the RTW with HEL-DOH or HEL-DXB take care of that issue?


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