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My understanding is that it is to hold the seats to stop anyone else taking them.
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there is no contract before it is ticketed. u really should have ticketed when u get a good rate. aa had done the same to other mistake fares.
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Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 27013281)
there is no contract before it is ticketed. u really should have ticketed when u get a good rate. aa had done the same to other mistake fares.
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Originally Posted by danger
(Post 27013291)
Ummm, there was no "mistake fare", alleged or otherwise, here.
(i set up my pnr and paid within 1 hr knowing the fare was gone soon.) aa can basically do anything it wants before aa sells u a ticket. and aa probabaly dont care if anyone boycotts them over it. i am sure that when there is a next great deal that can only be bookable by aa, i will book.with them without thinking twice. there is really nothing u can do. |
Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 27013333)
we all know the price is too good to last.
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Originally Posted by danger
(Post 27013265)
So when you put a reservation on hold at a particular rate, the price is not locked in? I thought that was the whole point of the hold.
The reservation on hold means that you have confirmed seats on the flights in question. Your seats were taken out of the inventory available on those flights. AA is free to re-calculate the fare, although usually they will not do so. The point of the hold is to give time for the tickets to be issued. |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 27013338)
Which is quite different to "mistake", particularly in FF terminology.
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Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 27013352)
i guess aa cant cancel a ticket claiming it is a mistake price. but u unfortuntely dont have a ticket.
BUT these ex-MPM fares were no mistake, they had been there for ~3years ever since QR joined the alliance. It's just that the local currency has been in steady decline with the result that the fares became very cheap to those of us outside Mozambique. As regards an airline re-pricing - yes they do that if the fare has been held for more than a certain length of time (and I guess also when the fare has changed significantly). I was in the situation where I had phoned AA and paid on Friday (July 29). I was not ticketed and my credit card had not been charged when the fares went up on Monday. Yet I phoned on Tuesday and got it ticketed at the pre price rise fare. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27013380)
IIRC in the US it was held that an airline could do this if the mistake was an obvious mistake (I don't remember if that was a DOT decision, or if the case actually went to court)
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27013380)
As regards an airline re-pricing - yes they do that if the fare has been held for more than a certain length of time (and I guess also when the fare has changed significantly). I was in the situation where I had phoned AA and paid on Friday (July 29). I was not ticketed and my credit card had not been charged when the fares went up on Monday. Yet I phoned on Tuesday and got it ticketed at the pre price rise fare.
Probably in this case AA actively requoted the ex-MPM itineraries knowing that the price had materially changed. |
Seventy-one minutes on the phone to Qantas with this itinerary:
MPM-xDOH-CMN-DOH-CPH-xDOH-GRU-SCL-BOG-LIM-EZE-JFK-CUN-PHX-DFW-SYD-JNB. The agent said she can't price it because there are too many flights to and from DOH. She says travel must be in a continuous direction. |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 27014131)
Seventy-one minutes on the phone to Qantas with this itinerary:
MPM-xDOH-CMN-DOH-CPH-xDOH-GRU-SCL-BOG-LIM-EZE-JFK-CUN-PHX-DFW-SYD-JNB. The agent said she can't price it because there are too many flights to and from DOH. She says travel must be in a continuous direction. Well, as you probably know danger, the agent is wrong. The relevant rule is 4(b) Travel must be in a continuous forward direction between TC1 - TC2 - TC3. Backtracking within a continent is permitted except as follows: Backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America is not permitted. And there is no rule limiting the number of visits to any given point - other than the point of origin |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27014165)
Well, as you probably know danger, the agent is wrong. The relevant rule is My emphasis. And of course DOH,CMN and CPH are all in the same continent, namely Europe/Middle East And there is no rule limiting the number of visits to any given point - other than the point of origin Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as I feared that I was actually arriving into Europe/Middle East three times (MPM-DOH; CMN-DOH; CPH-DOH). But then I thought harder and realised (I think) that my itinerary only has one intercontinental arrival (MPM-DOH) and one intercontinental departure (DOH-GRU), as DOH, CMN and CPH are all in the one continent.follows: Two permitted in Europe/Middle East So I'm waiting to speak to a supervisor. The agent who told me no go has had me on hold now for almost 20 minutes. (Incidentally, as noted above, AA priced it without issue.) |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 27014131)
Seventy-one minutes on the phone to Qantas with this itinerary:
MPM-xDOH-CMN-DOH-CPH-xDOH-GRU-SCL-BOG-LIM-EZE-JFK-CUN-PHX-DFW-SYD-JNB. The agent said she can't price it because there are too many flights to and from DOH. She says travel must be in a continuous direction. your routing is fine. |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 27014196)
... realised (I think) that my itinerary only has one intercontinental arrival (MPM-DOH) and one intercontinental departure (DOH-GRU), as DOH, CMN and CPH are all in the one continent. (Incidentally, as noted above, AA priced it without issue.) Edited to add: FWIW my last DONE was very similar to your itinerary: CPT-JNB-xDOH-EZE...BKK-xDOH-CMN-DOH-OSL-xDOH-NBO So 4 times through DOH (I know the airport quite well now:)) |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27014271)
Yes your thinking is correct. CPH and DOH are both obviously in the continent of Europe/Middle East. CMN is there by definition (The Europe zone of the continent is defined to include Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia.
:confused: AA priced it, but you are talking to a QF agent? |
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